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I personally am going to wait a month or 2 after the 951 hits the market to see what competitors release. Ive always been a Samsung fan when it comes to drives as im currently using an 850 pro but there are other drive hitting the market soon after that show promise. If they do not have heat issues then it may be a viable option to go another direction...

 

Out of my price range. I'm happy with the Crucial M600.

 

Targus Drifter II backpack arrived. Fantastic, the P770ZM fits like a glove Has excellent padding front, back and bottom. The outermost small section has a compartment inside that fits the 330w PSU.

Had the previous version for 15" laptop so needed to upgrade the backpack too.

 

Just an update on the benchmarking data for the non-OC system.

Everything listed below is stock, no tweaks or mods to anything, just hardware off the shelf upgrades and released non beta drivers. This now has Norton security suite, solidworks, and labview on it, so the background processes are starting to creep up too. This is a single 980M setup.

The out if the box with a single stick 8Gb of ram and the default HDD and power got 8190.
Plugged in power saving mode stock got 5776.

SSD and 16Gb of 2100Mhz memory plugged in full power and fans now got 8261.

Now with PhysX put to CPU I got 8377. The CPU peaked at 93% utilization.

I think that about gives a good idea of what a non OC can do.

 

What did you use for the benchmark?

 

im guessing firestrike based on the scores

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Gasp... I forgot to say yes it was Firestrike using 3d mark 4.34.498.0 (latest at this time).

These laptops with a single Nvidia 980M are running in the top 85% of all PCs, using stock settings. an SLI setup would be insane.

Other than the technical challenge there really is no need to OC these, IMO these will run anything you are going to need at 1080p for a LONG, LONG time.

 

If anyone has a go at that LG LP173WF4 please do let us know if your connection is eDP. Also has nvidia released any new drivers that still allow OCing?

 

Not just yet on Nvidia but hopefully over the next couple of days.

If there is space a small heatsink on the 951 is likely a good choice.

 

Not yet, but the response on that panel is atrocious. 8ms is minimum for me. But I hope there is an eDP panel for this machine because G-Sync does interest me.

 

As for storage plans, 951 is going to be too expensive for me.

I think I'll get another Crucial M600 m.2 and replace the 256 SSD with another 1tb 7200 spin drive.

 

Why not go for a 2TB 5400rpm drive? Sequential speeds should be just as good.

 

There is updated firmware for M600 m.2. Used the storage executive app and manual firmware zip. Easy and fast.

Hmm maybe. Will have to price things out later on in the year. Probably a good idea for storing large files, videos, music on that one.

 

Go with the IPS, you won't regret it. The colors are just so much better

 

Ips and colors do not have any relationship. The only relationship is black levels and viewing angles.

 

They could be referring to almost every IPS being glossy = higher color gamut versus TN with matte =72%~ color gamut. But if you buy a TN glossy, you can reach the same gamut. But you are absolutely correct IPS doesn't relate to colors.

 

The LG panel is matte and has about 3% wider gamut compared to the innolux (chi mei) one. There is also a glossy version of the LG IPS panel I believe too, but it does not really have any higher gamut. Sadly we are the bottom of the barrel in terms of panels made for us...

 

Yes of course I was just trying to point out that just bc it is IPS that it doesn't mean it has a higher color gamut but instead refers to the chevron shaped pixels.

 

Report I'm reading is the opposite. It's high response and it's 60% NTSC, not 72% or higher. This is the 17" model owners club forum, not the 15" so not sure why a previous poster was asking about the 15" IPS display.

On panelook it's 72%, 25ms. So it's not better than the Chi Mei other than the contrast and viewing angles, neither which are a problem on the Chi Mei.

 

What I want to know is if the LCD cover dimensions are compatible with the P37xSM-A models. If they are, and there is a 50-pin eDP connector on this machine, you all could just get the 72% NTSC gamut 120Hz LG panel that I have. It's quite honestly a great panel. Viewing angles are pretty good; much better than what my old D900F had and what any desktop monitor I've ever seen (I've not seen a lot of high end ones though, I will admit) has had.

Plus. 120Hz. C'mon.

 

I would expect with the new models releasing soon something should surface as dad as a good replacement screen for our model. I wouldn't expect any higher resolution but something with high nits and great color gamut is very plausible

 

I'd love that panel honestly... but I think it's not in production anymore?

 

I just want to know if the board contains both plugs, eDP and LVDS. If so, it is easier to upgrade in the future. If not, they have different motherboard versions for it. I haven't seen this confirmed on the P750ZM pages yet, nor do I feel like opening my machine to discover this until there is a 4K panel available. If there is, @superkyle1721 , our boards should be able to support 4K like the P750ZM once screens are available (later this year or next year).

 

Lol. Don't hold your breath. I don't mean to sound snarky about it, but all the best panels we have had have been out of production for YEARS. My panel was made in 2010. My notebook was launched in 2013. My panel was also discontinued in 2010. My notebook was launched in 2013.

The laptop market right now is "put less in, make more money, let people buy new thing in 1 year". The mass market has proven that they don't care enough about high-gamut, high-refresh, 3D, good-contrast, etc panels enough for them to continue in production. Go look at any desktop forum anywhere where people bounce in asking for a $900 gaming laptop to run BF4. They'll be shown the Lenovo Y50 with a 45% NTSC gamut piece of toad excretion of a panel. And nobody complains.

It makes it hard for the enthusiasts to get anything good. And look again: the sheer number of people who think the 60% NTSC gamut 17" IPS panel with 25ms response time on a 60Hz refresh rate is a good idea... and the people who think the 72% NTSC gamut IPS 25ms response time panel on the 15" is a great thing? When there were 95% NTSC gamut, overclockable TN panels being sold just two years ago that not enough people bought?

 

If you buy it with an eDP panel, they don't solder on the LVDS connector. And vice versa. That's what the gist appears to be.

See my above post.

 

Means I may have to get a new MB if upgrading the panel. Fun! Or find someone that will do the re-solder for a lower price that is legit... The things we do for love...

 

We are enthusiasts. This is why you have this machine and I have mine.

Fun tip: I appear to be the only active NBR member with a P370SM3.

 

BTW, sorry if I seemed snappy the other day. I'm laid up with the flu and just got done with the bar/decompressing from the stress. Didn't mean to sound snippy with you on the suggestions. Also, I do like the info guides in your tag line. Quite good compared to a lot of the writing I've seen out there!

 

@D2 Ultima I agree all the good panels may be in the past. Vizio released a P series 4K tv with only 16 ms of lag in game mode and people went crazy over it saying they are"very sensitive" to input lag. It's actually an incredibly tv once calibrated properly. My point in saying that is not that people don't care but they don't take the time to read before spending money. Us on the other hand read tons before considering making a purchase. Unfortunately we are the minority and looks like we will suffer because of it... Hopefully you are wrong( no offense) I'm just trying to stay optimistic that something will surface

 

It's mostly that OEMs and manufacturer both are scared of risks, so they were just showing bad panels down the pipeline that can be fit into $200 laptops

 

I don't even remember what you mean XD.

Also yes, they're written in such a way that even a newbie could understand things about them. It's my policy to make sure everyone understands something as long as I understand it. I have a habit of pressing for information from people who tell me I'm wrong about things though. It can be quite annoying when someone says "you're wrong" and won't explain why. Especially if the information is hard to acquire on the net.

 

When it comes to laptops, consumers don't care nearly as much as they do on desktops. And the problem is that the gaming laptop enthusiast market (people like me/luna/jaybee/mr. fox/meaker/etc) who aren't afraid to try a bunch of stuff (well I'm limited by 3rd world country and funds, but still) are only a tiny fraction of the already small gaming laptop market. The amount of people who never stumble upon this (VERY SMALL) forum that own gaming laptops, usually a Y50 or some ASUS somewhere, are quite large. In comparison, while not enthusiast, the desktop gaming community knows more than "the basics" about desktops, which leads to a generally acceptable flow of mostly correct information. This includes decent panels for gaming, etc.

The problem is that in their stupid attempt to shun us, they automatically disallow themselves from learning the good stuff. So they don't look for alternatives, or look for models they don't know, etc. You end up with (as I said) a LARGE number of people being recommended Y50s from lenovo with the terrible screens etc, and an even larger number of people who think 3k and 4k are gonna be amazing without knowing what they're getting into, and jumping into it with sometimes little more than an iGPU on their system.

So while I'd love panels to flourish and prosper, I'm not holding my breath. I'm not expecting good things with the current trend. I'll be damned if I'll ever give in to it, but I definitely don't have hopes of anything good.

 

The other day, you were trying to give advice on trying a couple settings, etc. I got a little defensive and wrote responses with a little bit of tone that I otherwise would not have used. Considering you were trying to help, I later felt bad about being blunt and having that tone when you were trying to help, something that shouldn't happen!
I'm glad you are putting informational guides like that out there for people. It helps a lot if they don't know where to look or incorrectly hodge podge different sources together coming to the wrong conclusion. Wanted to say I do appreciate what you do in this community!

 

Well thanks, that means a lot. It'd be nice if I could learn more myself, but I'm glad to pass along what I know.

 

This is true! I asked a friend that is an Apple guy what laptop he would recommend. He said Alienware, Asus, Lenovo. I told him about the P770ZM. He said he didn't know the brand and wouldn't trust it without even researching it. This is with him having seen my last laptop (P170HM) and what it could do. So remember, people have blind brand loyalty without researching the truth.

 

well, to be fair, id do my due diligence first as well on a brand that ive never heard of before even if a buddy of mine had a machine that hed say was running well

 

Been playing fallout new Vegas the last 3 hours. Peak CPU 59* and peak GPU 57*. Ridiculous. Maxed out settings.

Fun fact. I've been playing with keyboard and trackball instead of a controller. I guess trackball is easier than mouse plus being used to inverted y axis on controllers I am using regular axis control.

 

Update on my RMA: it arrived in Vernon, CA last night around midnight, is sitting a 30 min car drive from it's location, but won't be delivered until tomorrow because of 3 day shipping! Thank you UPS!

 

ugh. gotta RMA my batman. dead pixel. sigh.

 

hah, my trusty old current screen has like 23 hot subpixels... Luckily it's only really noticeable on black background batman is scheduled to arrive tomorrow however, so I am excited!

 

Got new ram, 2133 @ 9-11-10-28 but can't break 10,000 in FireStrike. Stuck at 9919-9950

 

Ouch, it's frustrating when that happens lol. We will see if I have fixed my frustrations when I get my 980M back from the modding

 

Had the same issue. I bumped the cpu clock to 46,46,45,45 and for whatever reason allowed me to clock the gpu just high enough to break the 10,000 mark. I don't have the knowledge to explain it but try it. After 5 hours of crashing when almost finished I finally hit that 10,000 mark. I ended up with I think 225,500,+75 on GPU for reference.

@Meaker care to share what in particular you are getting modded? This is the first I'm hearing of this....interested

@D2 Ultima I couldn't agree with you more. If I hear one more person ask my why I got rid of my Alienware for this beast I'm going to explode. Explaining to them the benefits don't matter all they hear is its not a gimped new dell with fancy lights. (Not as many at least )

 

@superkyle: im assuming meaker is talking about the extra mosfets he was planning to solder onto his 980M to give him more power headroom for overclocking. looking forward to his results

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Hi Guys,

i've a little problem with my p770zm.
In general its all fine, but sometimes the speakers start buzzing for about 1-2 minutes. It's annoying when it's silent, but during games or movies it's hard to notice.
I think it isn't a magnetic disturbance, because it comes and goes irregularly.

Has anyone else such a problem?

 

Noise P751ZM - Vídeo Dailymotion by Samot posted Feb 20, 2015 at 1:31 AM

Anything like this?

 

Hmmm not like this.
It doesn't change during high loads. It appears randomly or when I play the speaker test sound in the Realtek HD Audio Manager, also with muted speakers.
With plugged in Headphones the sound immediately appears and holds on for a much longer time.
I tried to record the sound, but my phone couldn't record the frequency. It's only one frequency and it sounds like a sine wave.

 

What is a safe overvolt some of you using? Me I'm doing stock with 150/250 overclock.

 

I ran +.075V temps were never an issue. These things cool very nicely. For all day I plan to run at +.050. For whatever reason .050 seems to be my stability sweet spot.
@jaybee83 yes yes I did. Oops

 

u surely meant 0.075V and 0.050V....