I know the feeling, it's heavy compared to other 15" laptops but fortunately not too bulky, relatively slim (1.3 inches).
Wasn't someone supposed to start a weight training program to get us coffeeshop thin and light weaklings with atrophied biceps into shape for the Batman?
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i believe that was lunas and ultimas plan of action
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indeed, ive also come across that info concerning the dimensions of the PM953...
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They may be trying to keep it single sided for server airflow purposes so going with the larger standard.
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Just a 980M GPU? what about the newer generations? i thought a new one was coming out in a few months. Either way, i'm still getting this beast at some point in the coming year.
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well duh, if the DM series comes out before the nextgen nvidia graphics, then of course its not gonna be sporting it (yet)
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Ok so the count down begins Sept 1st we should have some updates very soon for a release date. While we wait
lets have some discussion. Do you think VAR's (Value Added Retailers) like Sager and XoticPC etc.. should offer a delid service? And do you think they should using something better than IC Diamond?
Imagine getting the laptop with no hassle or stress just turn the thing on and it's ready to go, with delid already done using the best of thermal pastes. What do you think?ghegde and MichaelKnight4Christ like this. -
I don't see Sager offering a delid service. They're too big, it's too custom. I've seen too many reports of poor paste jobs from them already. How will a delid go with "Rush Service"? Poorly, is my guess. They use IC Diamond for a reason. It's good enough. I'm sure bulk pricing doesn't hurt either. -
Here's a fresh look! Say Hello to the New Batman 2.0
Notice the Type C port : )
Also I don't think IC diamond is "good enough" especially as an only option from retailers... So the discussion continues do you think retailers should offer a delid service with better thermal paste options? Perhaps it's time to make the Demand!
I'm also concerned about the lack of Glossy Sharp 4K IGZO panels that I'm seeing being offered even for the old batman. Which is sad to see it was superior to the Samsung in many ways except for G-Sync of course. I hope Clevo will still offer the Glossy 4K panels
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Exactly I mean a lot of users here who are pushing to lower their temps do not use IC Diamond there is better, so why not offer the best, especially when your buying the best laptop.
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Delidding won't help much. You still will have to make up that gap between the CPU and the IHS somehow. Maybe Sager could offer a heatsink with an added 0.7mm copper thickness on the heatsink for users that want to delid and get best cooling opportunity.
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also, imagining how that delidding service would be like, if the vendors are already infamous for bad paste jobs. so imagine that bad paste job under the (cpu) hood...
speaking of which, ordered myself a vice from amazon yesterday...Last edited: Sep 1, 2015 -
TIM - North America - Sager, Pro-Star stock or IC Diamond upgrade. Eurocom, Mythlogic IC Diamond standard. iBuyPower - didn't see anything on their site. That's it for NA Clevo rebuilders on NBR.
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totally correct as always HTWingnut, the best way would be to remove that silicon seal and reuse the IHS without it, but rather clamping it down with the socket itself that way ull remove that silicon gap and still have easy access to the naked die, if it ever becomes necessary...
as for the resulting "gap" between IHS and cpu heatsink, im hoping that itll have enough flexibility to overcome that ill find out soon enough i guessSamot likes this. -
Two quick comments...
A) I don't believe vendors will ever offer a service like this. How would they offer / resolve warranty issues. I just cannot see this happening.
B) I thought with Skylake CPUs due to the "thinness" of the package, most OC'ers are recommending NOT to use the vice method. Plus with the voltage regulator moved off of the chip, cutting the IHS away with a razor blade was less risky.
Clarification... for B, I'm referring to the CPU which would go into the P7x0DM when it is released, not anyone's current CPU or a CPU on a different machine.Last edited: Sep 1, 2015Bullrun likes this. -
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deliddservice on their configurator.
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oh they do, hm? gotta check that out right away....also didnt know they changed their name bluemobility was one of the first contributors for leaks concerning the batman
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Not a problem at all. They can still warranty the laptop just void the cpu warranty. I'd be OK with that just haver a waiver that the buyer agrees to waive the warranty for the cpu.
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I also have a ZM currently, but I'm looking to sell that one off and getting a new one, as I didn't realize at the time that I could've gotten G-SYNC on it. Since I'm looking to get a new G-SYNC version, why not wait a month or two for the DM?
I think certain people view one's choice as potentially invalidating their own. Which is ludicrous. I drive a Hyundai Sonata, my brother-in-law drives a Ford F150. Both perfectly fine decisions, since I commute to my office/desk job (gas mileage is important) and he's a construction supervisor.
I just sold off my AW17 R1. Not because it's a bad machine (it isn't - it's one of the best I've ever owned) but because the new tech coming out (G-SYNC, USB3.1C, TB3, DX12, etc.) are things I was interested in, and that machine couldn't deliver on those (same thing with the 750ZM).
Part of the problem here is the people who often visit this forum tend to be more tech-savvy, on the leading/bleeding edge of it, and the idea that someone is ditching their laptop makes them feel like they have a sub-par machine.
Different strokes for different folks.
Too bad you don't post here more often - your Lenovo Y50 review is the first one I ever read here, and is the post that got me started on these forums. For better or for worse.alaskajoel likes this. -
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this machine going to use 260-pin DDR4? Wouldn't that then make it incompatible with 204-pin DDR3?
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However, it's a free market for most of these things. If there's enough demand from customers for this service, I'm sure someone may offer it. I just don't know if there's enough of a demand and was trying to explain why it hasn't already been offered.
But I could be wrong, and perhaps someone might consider this in the future. For example, I just saw a vendor's web site offering an extra 'lapping' service for the P7x0DM. Is de-lidding around the corner? Time will tell.Last edited: Sep 1, 2015 -
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This notebook is looking like it will be the most powerful consumer notebook pound for pound. Its similar to the DM but will have more usb ports and will be able to support 2 mobile graphics cards.
Gollie...if a desktop cpu wasnt enough for a notebook imagine a desktop cpu with sli 980m's all in a 17in 10 lb laptop package. This is a total DTR !! Compare this to a actual sli desktop and you see how much space and weight is saved.jclausius likes this. -
Drat. I was hoping one of these new Clevo models would go back to 3 drives. Either 3 x M.2 2280 OR 3 x 2.5" HDD bays.
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What's the difference? You can install 4 SATA-SSDs if you want.
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@MichaelKnight4Christ: well, its not like this was a big surprise, its just the refresh of the P37x series
the true monster will be unveiled once the P570WM successor pops up
@Ramzay: as mentioned before, reading helps @supposedly feeling invalidated
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In the older models with 3 drives you could get RAID-5, which I've needed a time or two when redundancy and somewhat speedier writes were needed. I can report performance was sub-standard. However, I didn't do benching on 2 drive mirroring vs 3 drive RAID-5, so I don't know how timings compared between the two with large virtual machines or a database.
Now, if only there were 3 drives along with a true checksum chip they could enable on these laptop mobos w/ RAID... Then that would really be a dream machine for my needs.Last edited: Sep 1, 2015 -
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Okay pal !
but it still works!
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you should probably ask that in the ZM owners lounge but as far as i know, no one has tried that there, it has been discussed though...
@MichaelKnight4Christ: well thats exactly what the P570WM successor will sport, namely an 8 (or more) core extreme desktop cpu with sli mxm graphics
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The P570WM will still win in benchmarks due to the two extra cores over anything using 4 core skylake
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Looking around, I can't seem to find any 260-pin DDR4 RAM modules.
Any ideas on availability/pricing?
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