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Thanks for the reply.

As I thought, the id on the 750 is with 7503 as opposed to 7703 found on the 770 model.
And that my friend, is not in the latest nvidia inf files.

Hopefully next update will have the proper ID for the 750/1 model as-well.

 

Heat is a big issue on the P750DM ? Is it unbearable through the key board?

 

I have absolutely no heat issues with my P751, not on the keyboard and not anywhere else.

It does feel warm, but not warmer than any other gaming laptop I've previously owned.

 

Thanks for the snappy response! Looking to buy one when Scan.co.uk have got their IPS FHD g-sync screens back in stock .

 

Its not a "big" issue. The keyboard is about average, and I wouldn't call it unbearable. I personally find it uncomfortable, but I've definitely owned laptops that were hotter.

My own personal standards are "if I can feel heat on the keyboard, I don't like it". Others have different standards.

I measured a load temp of 40C on my P750ZM I previously had, around the centre keys (G-H). If you don't mind that, then you're good.

 

If I get my hands on a temperature gun I will definitely post some results while in high load.

 

They're pretty cheap, I got a SainSonic for around $50 or so.

 

Meh, I don't have any use for that other than this conversation right here
So, I hope to run into one without buying it.

 

pff , anyone on here got the temps ? Or is willing to send a temp gun to this guys address? i need this answered ! ! !

 

My laptop was JUST delivered (7 minutes ago), so as soon as I get home from work I'll start setting it up.

Hopefully by tonight (8 hours or so from now) I'll have some results for you. I would expect keyboard temps to be, at worst, on par with my previous Batman, so topping out around 40C. The larger chassis should probably drop that by 1-2C I would think.

I'll let you know.

 

Can the P7xxDM drive 250ohm headphones? Or is it a bit much for the onboard soundcard?
My wild hunt for a good set of cans continues. I've pretty much decided on the Beyer DT 990s, just wondering if I should order the 32ohm or 250ohm version.

I know I've already asked a similar question around here, but at that time only two users really answered - one saying I'd have no problems and another one sugesting I need to get a USB DAC, so I'd like to hear some more thoughts on this, thanks!

 

Thanks so much!!!! If you're in to benching and that , i'd love to see the what you get . I know there is already listings but i am curious to hear a new customer's results. Warm is actually kind of good for me as i always get cold fingers hahahahahaha

 

FS listing is up!
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/fs-clevo-p770zm.783935/

 

Ok, so I've run a few benchmarks.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10520306
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/9255907

I haven't updated to the latest NVIDIA drivers yet, just using the ones provided by my vendor (Eurocom).

They keyboard hasn't gone above 38C at its hottest point, which isn't bad.

Between Unigine Valley, XTU stress test, and 3DMark, the max temps have been as follows:

CPU: 79C
GPU: 72

That's with a -65mV in XTU.

 

6700k below 80 degrees - impressive
Oh, and btw, congrats on the new laptop!

 

And those were MAX temps, the average CPU temps were in the mid/low 70s.

 

Another new purchase here.

I finally bit the bullet and ordered one from Eurocom. Definitely can't wait to receive it and see what it can do! (mostly workstation tasks, heh)

 

what model?

 

Hah. I suppose that'd be good info. Eurocom Sky X4 / NP9758.

 

I got the same one from eurocom. Works fantastically. Welcome to the batcave!

 

Any idea how much overclock I can expect out of a 6700k on the laptop?

 

depends on tons of factors such as paste job, type of thermal paste, ambient temps, propped up laptop, the kind of workload u put it through, etc.

highest stable setting ive seen was 4.6 ghz in a p870dm.

i think 4.5 ghz should definitely be doable with a small amount of tweaking. probably more if u put your "modding back" into it

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Also the quality of chip you get too, every one is different.

 

dayum i'm happy right now just got my P771DM-G after i sold my P751DM, but now Gsync and Display tops out at 107hz what do i want more now?

edit: actually only 101hz is stable everything above is working but then sometimes goes black after a while, doesn't matter tho.

 

So, for comparison,
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10520838

That is my stock.

CPU: 69 on two cores, 70C on package
GPU: 53C

No offset on the core in XTU!!!
Now, for a true comparison, I'd need you to flash the Prema vBIOS and have the most recent driver installed. I'll put others up for comparison if you'd like.
Edit: Max fan, ambient 68. Let me know yours. It effects the comparison.

 

Mine was on auto fans, with performance profile in Clevo CC. Ambient temps around 22C.

I'll have to run it again though, I didn't check to see what the temps were like during 3DMARK alone, I just kept track of the max temps across all benchmarks I did.

 

Hmm, looks like Prema's vbios really does increase performance. Your CPU score is just a tad lower than mine (which is expected), but your graphics score is much higher.

I might just have to flash that vbios.

@ajc9988 Also, were those temps after your de-lid?

 

So, auto fans, ambient 20C
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10522560

CPU: 82C no offset
GPU: 63C

With all mods. Now, here is what it was when I first got the machine. Don't know CPU settings, etc.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/9570269

But that one was with Windows insider preview and using windows 8 drivers on it. I don't even know if I had flashed the BIOS or vBIOS at the time. But the difference is huge!

Edit: I think I need to clean out the fins.

 

Only issue I'm having now is boot times are slow. Going to have to mess around with BIOS settings to see why that is.

Here's what the typical boot looks like:

1) Blank screen, few seconds
2) Eurocom boot logo, almost 5 seconds on this stage
3) Blank screen, cursor jumps down a few lines - lasts about 2-3 seconds
4) Windows boot logo, a few more seconds
5) Finally get to the welcome screen

 

So stock, auto fan, -60mV offset, i got 80C
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10522650

This time boost didn't engage, which brought it closer to your score. Now, back to my normal settings and time to work!

 

I must say the hinges on the display are much sturdier than what I experienced on the P750ZM, which is good. They feel much more solid and reliable/durable.

 

How fast is boot time supposed to be?

 

Boot time is going to vary by what drive configuration you are using for your boot drive. Did you know what drives you were looking at getting? Maybe someone who has that same config could chime in.

 

Well I personally am looking at the samsung 950 m.2 that just came out, but i've noticed a couple people in this thread saying boot time was slow for them. I understand that ssd vs hdd etc will cause a speed difference but i'm not sure what some folks are looking to get regarding boottime? how fast is fast?

 

I have p750dm with SM951 as boot drive and boot times feel slow for me as well - about 10-15 sec black screen, then about 5-10 sec logo then quickly to login screen (I can officially time it later).

 

Does the USB type c allow power-in on this implementation? I'm interested in using something like this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0156HCJQO?keywords=usb c cover&qid=1447429232&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

Would be great to have a back up battery for half the cost, that's also useful for my other mobile electronics.

Also, does the WWAN port underneath the keyboard have the antenna cables pre-installed? I'm still waiting for mine to ship from AVADirect so I can see for myself, so any info is good info.

 

u have to consider several factors:

- type of boot: stock win10 doesnt properly shutdown but always uses some kinda sleep/hibernate/fastboot type of thing. i switched off all that nonsense crap and just to proper boot and shutdown each time

- storage drive

- os install / drivers / hooked up peripherals / startup items / bios settings

as a reference: proper boot in my case, measured from pressing power button to login screen takes around 22-23 seconds with an 850 pro 1tb. i highly doubt ull get much less than that, even with a 950 pro nvme.

again: PROPER cold boot, measured from power button! so please dont quote any "bios times" from the task manager here, we all know that only takes like 2-4 seconds

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So we're safe to flash the vBios? Prema's site says compatibility is coming 'soon' for the P750-DM. (980m, 8gb)

I'm running a Samsung 950 pro (NVME), stock bios, and it's slowww. 55 seconds per boot consistently. I've read this is caused by NVME, but who knows. Also running Win7.

 

My boot times on Win10 are also slow, I'm using a regular 2.5" SSD.

 

so how slow are they in your case ramzay?

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I haven't officially timed it, but probably around 15-20 seconds. I'll do a "formal" test from cold boot tonight.

My AW18 on Win8.1 boots in under 10 seconds (from fully powered-off to login screen).

 

Same, my AW M17x r3 (~2010) windows 7 with a crucial m4 ssd boots in ~18 seconds tops. The jump to 55 seconds is a bit concerning, but I haven't finished updating all of my drivers etc, not to mention flashing Prema's BIOS (eventually). Holding off on judgement for now. Plus there's a bunch of new storage-related technology in here (not to mention DDR4 - doesn't that do a lot more checks on startup than DDR3?), so perhaps this is to be expected.

 

Are people co.paring windows 10 DM boot times with windows 7 other laptop boot times? I thought I vaguely remembered reading that windows 10 boot times were slower than 7 but once booted performance was a little snappier.

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sure, with fast boot and hibercrap enabled its doable. but not good for the os health, proper shutdown is the best way to avoid any software/update issues... 20 seconds is normal for proper boot, so no worries there

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Well I several laptops at home, one with Win7, one with Win8.1 and one with Win10. All using SSDs (regular 2.5" SATAIII). The Win8.1 boots fastest, then Win7, then Win10 trailing far behind.

Maybe it is a trade-off, in that Win10 takes longer to boot but is much snappier after? I don't know.

I shudder to think of what it was like booting with a regular HDD. Once you get used to sub-10 second boot times, you get spoiled.

 

Actually I think it has less to do with OS than it does the chipset/bios/storage protocol. This laptop boots slower than others, and I personally believe that's because of the chipset drivers, DDR4 and (for those who have it), NVME.

 

At the end of the day, 20 second boot times aren't bad at all. It's just that it was a little bit of a shock going from one machine to the other and having boot times be twice as long.

 

Not sure if you were intentionally responding to me or not - but I'm getting 55+ second boot times, not 20.

 

No, I wasn't responding to you. 55 seconds is getting close to what it took to boot Win 7 with a HDD. Seems way off.

 

Does anyone else have a Samsung 950 pro installed?