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Anyone else running 32GB ram on the P750dm?

I can run 16 but 32 causes the OS to error out during boot. This is true for Win10 and Ubuntu15.10. I thought maybe the BIOS or firmware wasn't updated to handle more than 16GB DDR4, or something along those lines.

I'm running 16GB Kingston DDR4, 2x256GB SM951, and dual booting win/linux. Every thing works fine until I up the ram.

 

Hmm, maybe it is a bios thing or maybe bad ram? Have you checked swapping sticks? I have a 770DM with 32GB of 2400mhz Kingston (8x4) on Windows 10 Pro with no issues whatsoever. My machine came from Mythlogic who I believe uses Prema for the BIOS.

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Does WING MAN means P775DM?

 

is there any panel known for the ZM which can overclock to the 100hz area and uses eDP, i found a link from @LunaP but don't know if there are usertests done? Like already said some posts before i can easily renounce gsync if there are some aftermarked Displays i just can't to to 65hz honestly i played GW2 the whole day but even after a 8hr session it felt so laggy to me, weird fact tho in Real Fullscreen the lag is less in Borderless Windowed it was tiny bit more probaply to the forced vsync via DWM

 

So long as the TDP remains similar to the current Skylake models (around 91W) then there shouldn't be any issues.

 

Unfortunately, this isn't the predicament of the OP ->

Debaiky, first off, I apologize. I had SM951 on the brain, although you specified the XP941 (not the SM951). I think there still are some heat issues. A search against that drive suggests the XP941 should come with a heatsink. So if there is one, attach it.

Getting back to my and Bullrun's suggestion for those who have not purchased, we're all awaiting the 950 pro. If you can, take a long look at the 950 pro, which should start shipping either this week or next.

 

Yes. Not sure that is an official Clevo name. FWIW, I first saw use of 'Wingman' by @Prema.

 

Clevo's spoiling us with goodness now there even appears to be lower end or more like business laptops with desktop processors and no dedicated video

N350DV http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=879&lang=en
N350DW http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=880&lang=en

I've been posting this all over, Sorry,this is how pumped one gets when they have a real choice,and peace of mind from BGA components

 

I'm hopeful we'll see some 'official' information within the next 3 weeks. That would put the release by year's end, (but this is most likely wishful thinking on my part.)

 

This post might be better suited in this forum thread - http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...2015-2016-wishes-expectations.775918/page-141

 

no Tb3 port, only "T" 35W desktop cpus, WTF clevo?

 

Useless and waste of money. If you need a laptop using Intel's iGPU garbage, then just buy a Google Pixel C or Microsoft Surface Book, both can run any office apps. Pixel C is the winner IMO since it has the most support with all your other devices, media, printers etc. Also Pixel C will have USB Type C, which you might as well call thunderbolt.

If you need computational machine with just a CPU, you really should consider GPU as well. Even for encoding videos I use NVidia CUDA for filtering and other processes.

 

Thank you jclausius, just sent an email to Eurocom ask them if they attached a heatsink to the ships, and you are right, 950 is much better for the purchase, wish I had did some study 1st.

 

Everyone has different requirements and work loads, try to be open minded about the requirements of others

 

Taken back my screen overclock to 80Hz, still plenty of fun.

I just don't know what effects 100Hz will have on my screen on the long term. Particularly on color accuracy and reproduction.

 

You have a strong point sir,however some virtualization applications (as niche as they are) favor the crappy intel igpu,and the compatible nvidia (Quadro) setup maybe easily cost over a Base DM.That said,if i was to compare it,it would be to other laptops within it's category and not to something like the DM's.Well it's modular aspect anyway.But yes Tb3 would have up its impact.

 

I heard from XOTIC that P775 will be released before Christmas day.

 

The "T" series processors are lower TDP models, but still of the "Desktop" class.

The 6700T is 35w, the 6700HQ is 45w, and the 6700K is 91w.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/88967,88195,88200

It will be nice when the GT4 series Skylake processors come out, the current on board 530 iGPU's are slower than the previous GT3's.

Some business applications still only need basic graphics, but I really think that is changing, there are so many 3d accellerated uses for a dGPU.

But still, if I wanted a desktop CPU in my laptop, I wouldn't want a 35w part at all, let alone in a full sized frame

 

RitianZhao, will there be a Shipping option for: Santa Claus Chimney delivery?

 

It's the only way to have modular hardware. Clevo prides itself on modularity. Always has, always will (I hope). The reason the P6xxSx and P6xxRx are soldered is likely because:
- They have no choice with the HQ chips
- They are not marketing it to businesses, and rather it's meant for gamers
- They decided to split their lineup into two for the first time in my memory, and made polar opposites. A slim, lighter, gaming-capable machine for the first time, and a mainstream desktop-CPU-using laptop for the first time (in a long time, at least; I think they did it back in Core 2 Quad days). There was always the D900F/X7200/P270WM/P570WM-esque line where it used the highest end desktop chips from intel, but those are classed as their mobile servers. Their gaming line (also sold as business-class laptops) was one and the same, and now it's not.

I'm actually very happy to see those machines and I sincerely hope some places pick them up. It'd be a great thing to advertise to people assuming the price is closer to what the N15xRD and N170RD cost.

I cannot express to people exactly how much I detest BGA-only choices. And that 6700T seems to be the best chip we've got. It might be 35W (I assume clevo'll allow it to short power boost to 45W so it'll act mostly like the HQ chips do in terms of TDP limitation) and it runs at 3.4GHz out of the box with turbo. That makes it on par with an i7-6920HQ in performance... except it's modular. It also has 8MB of L3 cache and supports vPro and Stable Image Platform Program tech, which means it's again better than the 6700HQ and 6820HK in terms of features (and most places aren't selling 6820HQ/6920HQ chips).

AND *drum roll* it costs less than every. single. HQ. chip. on. the. market. Even the 6700HQ costs more at a tray price of $378 by BGAtel, and the 6700T is only $303.

 

none whatsoever as long as u dont see any artifacts / lines / errors in the display output, u can overclock the refresh rate to your heart´s content seeing as youre sporting a very nice overclockable display, my recommendation is to USE IT! overclock it to one Hz away from artifacting, its worth it, trust me and as opposed to GPUs, for example, the display doesnt degrade and fail because of overclocking

as mentioned before already: if u dont like the 35W cpu, just slap in a more performant desktop cpu, use CLU and call it a day thats the beauty of the socket!

 

35w => 91w => Smoke on the Water, Fire in the Sky-lake

Spoiler

 

Wishful thinking.It would be a welcomed surprise if its docking station pulled of a surface-book type gpu (not the 940m or maybe ) or had usb-c, i'm guessing they can offer it later on if there is a demand or something of sorts.

 

lol u dont have to overdo it and go 6700K but even if u do, u can just tweak it to fit into the installed heatsink TDP definitely way better than being stuck with the 35W TDP no matter what

 

Can other people attest to this? I always though it had a negative impact on color reproduction, life-time of the display and blurred pixels

 

why and how would it impact color reproduction and blurred pixels if you overclock the refresh rate? the only thing it would cause would be artifacts or black screen if you reach the screen´s limit. others are welcome to give additional input, i myself have used overclocked displays for years on end without any side effects. if it does impact the screen´s life time, then only in such a way that you wouldnt notice it anyways, since you´d long have upgraded to another machine already (say, shortening its lifetime from 25 to 20 years or smth like that )

 

can vouch for it too, still having my old 1440x900 screen at work and runs @82hz instead of 60hz since 5yrs i think, and oced displays on my P150HM and my P771ZM before without any issues. Btw i just ordered the Samsung Panel let's see how it is.

 

It can shorten life span, but that won't be significant, usually, for the life of the laptop, as explained. If there is a latent defect, it may cause it to become apparent. Meanwhile, I've read overclocking the display can cause a small blue shift. If it does, just recalibrate if noticeable and your done.

 

blue shift, interesting havent noticed anything like that thus far, but then again, im not really that nitpicky when it comes to color accuracy

@Scerate: haha, always hunting for the best overclockable screen, love it

 

haha yeah i pretty spoiled with high frequency tho, using still one of the first 120hz available on the market and + the fact my old NB did 110hz i can't live with "just" 60hz hope the Samsung wich @LunaP recommended spices some things up, gsync i just a nice plus for me but i have to get priorities straight

Edit: tbh i actually thought that when taking the smaller NB, that smaller displays actually does clock higher but it seems like it isn't the case.

 

What happens to Gsync when those 60hz panels get overclocked to 80-90hz? New firmware needed or it stops working?.. Or you then actually got Gsync from.. 20?-80/90hz?? How is Gsync on this laptop anyway?

 

Good one! hope so!

 

What temps are you guys getting with the 6700K under load?

 

What kind of loads? For example, having the cpu @100% load on Prime 95 27.9 is different than on Prime 28.5(the later produces higher temps), 100% wPrime will be different than 100% on Cinebench, etc..

 

I'm tallking about real-world temps. In general.
Doing heavy work, 3D stuff, games, etc...

 

I´m really curious about 6700k temps, haven´t seen any proper testing like @jaybee83 did on the 4790k/ZM.

 

I was getting around 83/86ºC after a long 3 hour BF4 sesh
980M stable at 71ºC
(with auto fan mode)

Chassis was too cool for school! Love it! With my GS70 I would be very discomfortable after so much time playing

At which temps should the 6700K start throttling? I'll check for that next time with Afterburner

 

Stock? Settings?

 

Bone stock, running the game on ultra and 2x aa

 

You have a cooler, right? (i think there was one on the photos you posted)

 

Hello! Long time diver here, but I feels like it's my chance to join the batman club. I ordered my p750dm from eurocom and I'm about to get it tomorrow(actually good deal considering student discount). By then I will post some pics and do some testing. Is there anything u guys want to test about?


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ambient temps? 71C on the 980M and mid 80s for the 6700K at 4ghz all cores seems quite warm tbh...

nothing to worry about though, throttling starts around 95C, anything below 90 is fine for indefinite amounts of time

just saying, i rarely ever see my 980M reach 70C, only oced to the max and on a hot summer day pretty much. as for the cpu, at 4ghz with gameload it should have the potential to stay way cooler, even at stock.

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Can confirm that the 980m in my bro's P150EM with P170SM heat sink NEVER hits 62 degrees while playing maxxed out GTA V, pasted "only" with ICD.

Did u check ur heat sink, if TIM spread evenly? My 780m's are hitting 70/75 degrees (Master/Slave). And I would consider ma paste job and heat sinks as of good quality!

Crazy stuff that Maxwell stays that cool!

 

I don't know if it's just a placebo effect, but everything seems a bit snappier with latest bios from mysn/xmg, for p751dm-g model. (The new version is available also for the 771 model)
Just the bios has update, no new EC.

If anybody else wants to try, it can be downloaded from the following url:
http://www.mysn.de/driver/XMG/XMG_U506_und_U706/

 

Ok the company from whom i wanted to get the samsung display just called me and said that they don't get the panel and didn't want to sell it to me anyways cause they don't trust me that it fit's the P75xDM i loled

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10455571

Does this look like an ok score for the config in my signature? I see in GPU-Z that the 980m does the power throttling every once in a while. Guess nothing can be done untill we get some vbios from Prema, right?

 

Do you have Firestrike too? Don't have any values to compare it to

 

Gonna run fire strike later today and will post for comparison. I ran once and it was somewhere in the area of 8.2k total.

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Sounds about right

 

no need to wait, the modded vbios from prema (not system bios!) has already been around for quite a while go and check his website premamod.com, the modded vbios takes care of the throttling issues and also completely unlocks overclocking, among other goodies please be aware that u need to use the correct vbios version for regular and gsync cards, otherwise ull get black screens!

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