*** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

I'm using an SM951 256mb until the 950 Pro comes out.

Read/Writes are about 2200/1200.

Could be worse.

 

Congrats and seeing your pic makes me happy I decided on clevo. I see your installing it for the first what OS do you plan on using?

ps I checked the driver downloads and I cant seem to find any drivers for the DM did yours come with driver software?

 

I installed Windows 8.1.

It came with a CD but my laptop doesn't have a DVD player. So I copied the files to a USB stick using another laptop.

Very important, install the Nvidia driver from the CD. It won't install the latest one from the Nvidia website.

353.62 is the latest version that is compatible. I was going nuts because device panel only would only show Microsoft Adaptor until I installed the driver from the CD.

 

Thanks for the heads-up! So excited... What a good looking machine

Quick poll for those deciding to wait for the Samsung 950: 2x 256 in a RAID-0, or 1x 512?

 

After you installed the nvidia driver from the cd was it able to update automatically to the latest after that?

256x2

 

Nope. The driver on the CD is the latest one says Geforce Experience Update.

If I try to manually update, it says it's not compatible.

 

Would it be too overkill to 2x512 in Raid-0?

Curious, when you say waiting, do you mean waiting until the 950 pro is released to get the notebook all together? Do you think they will be added to build options upon release? I don't know if I should wait, or just get the clevo now with a normal HDD and upgrade when it comes out. I'm concerned if I wait on resellers all together, that it may take a lot longer than expected to be added to build options.

 

Sweet deal, is this the 15" or 17"?

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It's the 15"...P750DM.

 

Why not Windows 10? Just curious since I'll be setting mine up on Thursday, so excited now!

 

What did you get @_Fox? Where did you order yours? I'm waiting for my P770DM from Mythlogic with Win 10 Pro installed on the 256GB SM 951 and a 256GB 850Pro for extra storage.

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I've heard that it is impossible to install windows 7 with usb disk on it because of EHCI removal in Skylake(or something like that), is it true? If it is, we might need a thread (or guide) before everybody asks about it.

 

Really were did you hear this ?

 

Search for "z170 EHCI windows 7". It is possible to install windows 7 on Z170, but the default installer within windows 7 image will not work (with usb stick, SATA optical drive works fine)

AFAIK, there are several options to circumvent it. Use windows 8.1 PE environment or another computer and advanced windows installer (for example winntsetup) to extract windows files to disk and finish install on laptop.

Or use tools from ASUS/MSI, etc to patch windows 7 image with newer drivers.
There should be other way around, but I believe a guide is needed as the default way won't work.

http://www.asrock.com/microsite/Win7Install/index.html ASRock site and tool (not tested)

 

Windows 7 is offered as an option. So, the BIOS, likely, has the option.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9485/...-asrock-asus-gigabyte-msi-ecs-evga-supermicro

 

I've got a mostly stock P750DM from Xotic, only thing I changed was that I got the Intel wireless card instead of the Killer one, and I had them paste it for me. Didn't order it with an OS because I have Dreamspark Student, so that's why I asked about Windows 10; I just wanna have the install drive prepped and all for when it shows up.

 

Dreamspark too, so much money saved haha ^^, sql server 2014, all the windows, visual studio enterprise...this is a cool concept from Microsoft.

 

I'm planning to order the laptop without an SSD and install the 950 myself, but will ask my reseller if they have an updated ETA on the new SSD. They did not as of early last week.

Also, in case you didn't see it, English review for the 770 is up. Still awaiting the 15" translation.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U706-Clevo-P771DM-Notebook-Review.150989.0.html

 

Hello guys,
Please, help me to decide with GPU choise for batman order. And few small questions.
I want to get 770DM, i7-6700k, 16 GB RAM, Samsung 950 Pro SSD.
1. Now, only FHD G-sync 17" exist, so I have no choise. In future, may I upgrade LCD to some 2k/4k G-sync, if it will exist?
2. Main question - GPU. Since FHD - 970M should be totally enough now for laptop. But I want to use external monitor later (2 or 4k), as well I hope to upgrade GPU to Pascal generation (any rumors about possibilities?), in worst case I can use eGPU by Tb3. GTX 980M - cost 372 euro extra, which possibly later allow me to play on external monitor 2k without upgrade GPU. So, does it worth to buy 980M now, or keep money with 970M and upgrade it later?
3. New ssd Samsung 950 Pro, what is better - one 512 or RAID.0 256x2? I am not sure about real use difference, but since that ssd may get hot, I do care about temps from x2 SSD`s. Is there some termal pads, heat sink, small cooler that I can use fot it in Batman chassis?
4. Any rumors about release date of Clevo 775DM?

I would be thankful for any recommends and advices, because it seems confusing decision about GPU for me. Sorry about english in some cases.

 

I have interest in getting either this machine or the Clevo P650RE .I like that this one has the desktop CPU and is future proof but what i like most about the P650RE is the mux. To my understanding the intel gpu is completely disabled in the p75xdm.Sometimes the Intel GPU could be good for virtualization due to its gvt-g/xengt/kvmgt capability(ability to share the real graphics with vms).Unfortunately though for vt-d pass-through on the P650RE it's none existent in the chipset.I guess maybe someone can clarify if the DM shares a similar mux or if intel remains disabled.

 

I was thinking about the 6600k model, but when I saw the load temps of 6700k in the Notebookcheck review, I got a bit disappointed. 99C during stress test implies that the cpu cooling is not the best in this thing...what are the peak cpu temps during a cpu intensive game like Battlefield4 or Dragon Age Inquisition?

 

Notebookcheck likes to run Prime95 and Furmark at the same time.....not a good idea. And these are stress test programs, they're doing their job. On regular usage you'll be more than fine on 99% of the time.

 

And there are games which run the cpu and gpu at 90%+ at the same time too btw, the temp was 99C+ with only Prime 95 too...

 

And there are games which run the cpu and gpu at 90%+ at the same time too btw, the temp was 99C+ with only Prime 95 too...

 

Most probably Prime v28.5.

I think @XMG said that notebookcheck didn't put the fans at max speed.

Never had problems while gaming on auto fans, worst case scenario max temps hover around 80c, and that's with "hotwell".

 

...and why user supposed to manually set fans to max speed? If temperature approaches 99deg, surely any decent design should be smart enough to set max speed automatically.

 

Yeah Clevo hasn't got this in their head yet. You can hit fn + 1 to get max fans at any time.

 

Indeed. And not being able to set the custom fan profile to max out at 100% is another flaw.

Now I realised: 99c?! When do skylake cpu's begin to throttle? Never seen my 4790k go past 96c.

 

Hey guys! I'm really considering getting this notebook. I've started to read from the beginning but it seems the thread is growing faster than I can keep up.

Are there any reall issues or reasons worth considering?
I see the CPU (6700K) is throttling in some heavy stress cases, but that it's probably due to the fans not going to 100%. How much louder are the fans at 100%?
Also I hear the 6700K is not performing as well as expected. Is it a better idea to save some money and get the cheapest i5 CPU to later update to a temperature stable and performing i7?

Thanks!

PS - Is this thread only for the 15'' model? I can't find the one for the 17''

 

As discussed, I think that they keep the fans at AUTO when running Prime and Furmark.

Prime and Furmark are stability test programs (primarily), they shouldn't really be run simultaneously to gauge the temperature side of things as they are not a good reflection of real world usage.

You can set the fans to maximum in the Control Center and by pressing Fn 1 simultaneously. One of the (possible) reasons for having this as a manual function is that an auto fan profile operating at the highest temperature levels will ramp up and down which continuously changes the turbo boost of a CPU. If you're running an application that pushes the CPU and GPU as hard as Prime and Furmark does, manually setting max fans does make sense to a point.

 

The CPU is TDP limited, under heavy stress testing it will reduce the speed to conform to the rated TDP. This is a deliberate design by Intel.

On the K chips you can adjust this setting but this will increase the power consumption and temps beyond the originally intended limits.

 

Olá!

Since this is really an updated P751ZM, go to its owners lounge and read the first posts by jaybee83. Skylake performs slightly better than Haswell regarding temps, so you can draw some conclusions from that.

A P771DM thread should pop up but it´s basically the same machine. Any relevant information (disregarding screens) is valid for both models.

 

Furmark, Kombustor, OCCT etc are useless to test anything but maybe the application quality of the TIM by comparing 2 x 5 minute runs.
Not only are they dangerous (I suggest to read THIS & THIS), but they are no longer even permitted by vBIOS to do their dirty work.
Every single NVIDIA vBIOS since GTX5xxM detects their presence and changes the entire load to protect itself from it (It still shows 100% load, but it no longer is).

There was even an experimental GPU-Z version which disabled the protection bit and instantly drove the cards into limbo:

 

Thats very informative thanks I will certainly try this since I prefer to use windows 7. I have a external dvd drive do you think I will run into issues using that with a licensed copy of windows 7 enterprise dvd that my job supplies?

This is helpful, never thought installing windows 7 may be a issue but hopefully I can and I will try this as well. I actually plan on having win 7 8 and 10 on a boot disk but 7 is still widely used and I personally prefer it.

The integrated intel gpu will be disabled just like it was with the zm. On the nbc review they did not mention mux functionality and thus the battery life is lower than with mux or optimus.

 

But not for the sustained periods that would generate those temps consistently.

Prime and FurMark create totally unrealistic scenarios that 100% of laptop users WON'T encounter.

Sure it's fun to see hardware pushed to it's limits, but in order for that to happen, ARTIFICIAL workloads have to be placed on them in order to make it happen. There exist no programs in use today, be it games, productivity software nor media creation tools that come close to those two stress test programs.

So go ahead and get the 6700k knowing that it won't hit those temps unless you don't have thermal compound applied.

 

I plan to run the dm on stock compound curious to see how that will turn out.

 

Lol its probably going to turn out as expected and underperform when compared to a slightly more expensive but better performing paste.

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http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/e-services/download/USRManualOut.asp?model=P7xxDM/P7xxDM-G&menual=+GO+

Manuals available for download, it seems.

 

Yeah perhaps but I haven't seen anyone report the zm or dm with stock paste so I'll have something to report when the time comes. Still undecided which model to go for but I will know soon enough after people get thier dm's and start testing them and reviewing them. My plan is if nobody has used stock paste by that time then I guess that will be where I can step in and offer personal experience. I also have access to several brands of tp so after I get real world stock tp results I will compare it to the repasted results.

 

So has anyone had a chance to find out if the HDMI 2.0 port supports HDCP 2.2 this is the next gen copy protection. Basically if you have want to stream some of the "new 4K" video in the future or if you hook up a USB Blu Ray player that supports the new 4K standard you may not be able to get a video connection to your TV. Anyways some food for thought something to consider as HDCP 2.2 because more and more common place we might run into problems if HDCP 2.2 is not supported

 

Nice, a basic set of drivers is also available on Clevo's site!

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I'm noticing some interesting language in the Clevo manual for the new DM models that specifically warns against doing upgrades yourself and says you need to refer upgrades to an authorized distributor. I'm not sure if maybe the ZM language was the same or if their position on users doing upgrades has changed? Obviously it stands to reason that you CAN void your warranty if you damage your system whilst working on it but these warnings are more phrased as if to say you just shouldn't even attempt it at all.

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100% cpu doesnt equal 100% cpu, especially if u compare prime95/furmark with, say, battlefield 4. u can have 100% usage in both scenarios but 30C difference in temps easily

they did, actually! the overclock fan profile is automated, but more aggressive than auto and ramps up to true 100% = fn+1 speeds but for the overclock fan option to pop up in the control center i think u need to have intel xtu installed.

best thing would be to check with ur reseller/vendor and make sure u can upgrade ur hardware without voiding warranty.

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Yey me, I just placed an order for this beast with an i5 6500, 980m, 16gb @ 2400mhz cl14, intel 8260 and no ssd or hdd.
Gonna get an ssd from some other shop when I get the cash and I can easily upgrade the cpu later on, rather than the gpu which is an expensive upgrade down the road.

LE: For the ssd, 850 EVO or MX200 (500gb)? What do you guys think? I'm leaning towards the mx200.

 

User manual was available since the 24th http://mysn.de/secure/userarea/download.asp ;-)

P.S. well, before the 24th but that's when we uploaded it - they usually pop up on company websites when sales start, Clevo isn't always uploading at the same time.

 

Hey when are you guys gonna get the P650Rx/P670Rx on your site? I know Sager and USA rebranders seem to have them up with an ETA, but your site still has the haswell versions. I was looking to suggest someone a P650RE earlier but I only got the P650SE D=

 

If price is not the main concern, you should keep a distance with any TLC SSD for now,no matter how good it performs in benchmarks.
For SATA SSD, I suggest Sandisk Extreme Pro, which is one of the few ssds with 10-year warranty and top speed. For M.2 SSD, maybe wait for 950 Pro, no point in buying one that does not offer speed improvements. MX200 is also good, but they only offer 3-year warranty if I recall correctly.

 

I'm also eagerly awaiting the revised P650 series. While I love the Batman, I can't really justify spending an extra $500 when the P650RE will be more than enough for me.

 

Since they come optimus-less now, the only problem with them is BGA. And while I hate BGA with a burning passion of the gods that few on this forum truly understand, I do understand not everyone needs the desktop CPU machines.

 

I will be getting a regular 2.5 model and save for an M.2 model for later. As with the last ssd I owned I don't expect to keep it for longer than maybe 1-2 years and I don't think any tlc ssd can degrade that much in such a short period of time.

Both the 850 Evo and mx200 are priced similar here and that's why they are on the final purchase list

Only main difference between them, from my point of view would be the 5 vs 3 years warranty (in favor of the 850), as speeds seem to be similar at both models.

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