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    *** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by ProFX, May 18, 2015.

  1. wiltedjoint

    wiltedjoint Notebook Enthusiast

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    What's the difference between the P750DM and the P751DM?
     
    wiltedjoint, Sep 21, 2015
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    The finish
     
    octiceps, Sep 21, 2015
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    one is brushed aluminum the other is matte
     
    heibk201, Sep 21, 2015
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  4. XMG

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    Sorry, I missed this from yesterday's notifications.

    The MXM PCIe lanes (from CPU controller) are completely separate from the storage PCIe lanes (from PCH controller) so there is no overlap and no effect on each other in this regard.
     
    XMG, Sep 22, 2015
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    which one has aluminium chassis, 751?
     
    moviemarketing, Sep 22, 2015
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    neither, the differences are only concerning the fan exhaust grills ;) both are plastic though, just the finish is different, as octiceps already mentioned...

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
    jaybee83, Sep 22, 2015
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    bigspin, Sep 22, 2015
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    Ah finally it looks like samsung are going to get serious now the market is opening up.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 22, 2015
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    D2 Ultima, Sep 22, 2015
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    We have never had any problems with system boot on SM951 on ZM so on DM it should work fine :)
     
    HYPERBOOK, Sep 22, 2015
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    double post
     
    jaybee83, Sep 22, 2015
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    Last edited: Sep 22, 2015
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  13. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The regular end-user SM951 is not the NMVe version...the NVMe edition needs additional BIOS support which only the DM BIOS has (as well as the ZM Mod and an internal P6 beta BIOS Mod).
     
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    Samsung Announces 950 Pro M.2 NVMe SSD
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/9650/samsung-announces-950-pro-ssd-their-first-consumer-vnand-nvme-ssd
    Samsung950ProCar_678x452.jpg

    "The use of M.2 for the 950 Pro will impose capacity limits on the drive due to the smaller size of the M.2 form factor compared to 2.5” SSDs. This means that the 950 Pro will come in 256GB and 512GB capacities. Next year Samsung will be releasing a 1TB version of the drive based on 48-layer third-generation V-NAND once that tech is ready and plentiful for consumer drives."

    "Wrapping things up, Samsung tells us that the new 950 Pro drives will be going on sale in October. The 256GB drive will hit the market with an MSRP of $200, and $350 for the 512GB drive. Compared to the very difficult to find in retail SM951 these prices should be more than competitive, though compared to the current 850 Pro there will be a significant price premium at these MSRPs."

    Specs
    ssd specs.JPG
     
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  15. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Looks expensive.
     
    Ramzay, Sep 22, 2015
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    deepfreeze12 Notebook Guru

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    Now imagine two of those puppies in the DMs... 5GB/s anyone? :D
     
    deepfreeze12, Sep 22, 2015
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    You can be sure we will try it :)

    btw: i7-6700K is much cooler in P751DM than i7-4790K was in P751ZM. We will post details today.
    ps. We have posted photos of P870DM on our Facebook fanpage. You can check it :)
     
    HYPERBOOK, Sep 22, 2015
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  18. deepfreeze12

    deepfreeze12 Notebook Guru

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    Very nice, guys, I especially like this part very much:

    "Here comes new king of performance! Hyperbook GTR87-G with SLI 980M/970M or NEW NVIDIA GTX 980 (Desktop Edition)..." :D

    Can't wait to see some inside pictures of the beast... But just look at those huge exhaust vents at the back! :eek:
     
    deepfreeze12, Sep 22, 2015
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  19. Grizzlington

    Grizzlington Notebook Enthusiast

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    Now THAT is a desktop hiding in a "lap"top, will not find anything else that is closer to 'Desktop Performance' than that. But portability is questionable. Hahaha...
     
    Grizzlington, Sep 22, 2015
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  20. deepfreeze12

    deepfreeze12 Notebook Guru

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    Who cares, anyway! As Jeremy Clarkson would say:



    :p :D
     
    deepfreeze12, Sep 22, 2015
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  21. Samot

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    Stock or polished heatsinks (since you offer polished heatsinks...)?
     
    Samot, Sep 22, 2015
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  22. Ethrem

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    It would sure be nice if other companies offered lapped heatsinks!
     
    Ethrem, Sep 22, 2015
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    The P870DM is already featured on LinusTechTips for having a GTX 980.

    And apparently, there is (or will soon there will be) a P775DM.
     
    Grizzlington, Sep 22, 2015
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    Here you are @Bullrun , just hidden under the keyboard!

    U506-LTE.JPG
     
    XMG, Sep 22, 2015
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  25. XMG

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    Done it, 4200MB/s+ sequential read ;-)
     
    XMG, Sep 22, 2015
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    Bullrun, Sep 22, 2015
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  27. jclausius

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    ??? Any details of what can be found in this beastie?
     
    jclausius, Sep 22, 2015
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  28. Samot

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    It´s just an aesthetic variant of the P7xxDM line. The P6xxSx series also had P6x5Sx variants (P655SE and P655SA).
     
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  29. deepfreeze12

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    Damn, that's sweet! And I guess with the new Samsung 950 Pro's, it will reach the 5GB/s mark... Now just insane for a laptop! :D
     
    deepfreeze12, Sep 22, 2015
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    moviemarketing, Sep 22, 2015
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    I instantly decide to wait for P870DM. Price is not too bad.

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
     
    bigspin, Sep 22, 2015
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    Indeed, should just be able to hit 5GB/s - overhead might mean it's just below this figure. Technically around 20% performance difference in benchmarks, real world will be difficult to see.
     
    XMG, Sep 22, 2015
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    wickette Notebook Deity

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    My next laptop is XMG P505 + Nvidia Pascal ^^. But happy to see clevo listening to the customers..!
     
    wickette, Sep 22, 2015
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    Will have around a month to wait ;-)
     
    XMG, Sep 22, 2015
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    No prob. Worth it.. and thanx for update. I guess mid November? and I have a feeling this will help me to reduce my heating bills.

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
     
    bigspin, Sep 22, 2015
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  36. HYPERBOOK

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    We have just finished first tests of P751DM.

    Configuration: Hyperbook X15DM (Clevo P751DM), Intel Core i7-6700K, 16GB DDR4 2133MHz Hyper X, GTX 970M, 128GB Samsung SM951 (as boot device, in the second M.2 PCI-E port), Windows 10 Home. No heatsink lapping, no FN and 1, Prolimatech PK-2 paste.

    Cinebench_R15 score: 876 points, maximum CPU temp: 83℃
    Blender BMW test: 2:30 min with CUDA, max CPU temp: 75℃, GPU temp: 59℃

    3D Mark score 6 913 points: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/8656574, CPU temp: 81℃, GPU temp: 61℃

    Are fans loud? Their are pretty the same as in P751ZM, same as speakers. Although we did not test any of Sound Blaster options.

    We can also confirm that this model supports Thunderbolt. There is a driver on DVD and you can install it. However we did not test any Thunerbolt hardware yet.
     
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    We are expecting stock at the end of October, so shipping date just depends if the delivery is on time or not!

    P.S. with SLI 970M and single 980.
     
    XMG, Sep 22, 2015
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    lol bigspin, u crack me up

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
    jaybee83, Sep 22, 2015
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  39. bigspin

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    You mean desktop 980? Sweet

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
     
    bigspin, Sep 22, 2015
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  40. jaybee83

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    no 980M sli config from XMG though?

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
    jaybee83, Sep 22, 2015
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    Indeed, minus the "M" of course!

    SLI 980M doesn't make sense any more price / performance wise, you'll be better off with a single GTX 980 :)
     
    XMG, Sep 22, 2015
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    So as exciting as this laptop is I will not be buying it unless it comes with a Glossy Monitor, and I'm a Clevo Batman Die Hard. Yeah yeah... I get it "some" gamers like the matte. But side by side a glossy monitor will always look better than a matte screen.

    Nearly all 4K TV that are sold are Glossy
    All your phones are glossy.
    The image, and colors pop more on a glossy.

    So I sure hope all the resellers are listening... I'm waiting for a 17" 4K Glossy... I'm a government purchaser large volume and the guys like the Glossy screens they look better.

    I'm frustrated to learn some retailers like Sager said they will no longer be offering Matte, though I don't know if that's the final and official word on the matter, but I've spoke to Clevo directly it sounds like they may come out later, but it appears like it's more of a supply issue perhaps.

    Retailers it be helpful if you could inquire and see if Glossy will be coming down the Pipe. I'm willing to wait until Feb for this. Other OEM's will be offering Glossy.
     
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  43. Ionising_Radiation

    Ionising_Radiation ?v = ve*ln(m0/m1)

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    Not true. My LG 4K TV isn't very glossy. In fact I'd say it was fairly matte. I've seen several Samsung and Sony TVs that are matte too.

    I like how you capitalise 'glossy'. Glossy.
     
    Ionising_Radiation, Sep 22, 2015
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    Well, unless you happen to have any lighting behind you whatsoever. :D

    Having it as an option makes sense of course. But I matte looks better to me in 99% of real-world situations.
     
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    since when do us enthusiasts care about price/performance ratio? o_O :D thats a step back in maximum available performance, i hope youre aware of that! 980M sli will still smoke a single 980, both at stock and overclocked ;)
    lets see what the regular sized mxm version of the 980 can do :)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
    jaybee83, Sep 22, 2015
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    @XMG, will higher resolution screens be available in the future?
     
    belegdol, Sep 22, 2015
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    Anyone know if the new 980 mobile version will be compatible with the p750zm?
     
    SaintFishes, Sep 22, 2015
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    @SaintFishes: well have to wait for regular sized mxm boards from clevo first. also, expect to get lower performance from those cards due to smaller tdp envelopes, so it might not really be worth it if you already have a 980M installed. for users with 880M or 780M it might be an interesting option though, if pricing of those regular mxm 3.0 B boards is not THAT much different from the 980M

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
    jaybee83, Sep 22, 2015
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    Hmmm interesting, thanks.
     
    SaintFishes, Sep 22, 2015
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    Might as well wait for Pascal.
     
    Samot, Sep 22, 2015
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