*** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

We have XMG and Schenker models which cover the P7xxDM and P7xxDM-G models. The XMG versions have G-Sync and as such we only offer FHD panels in the U506 and U706.

The Schenker W506 and W706 do not have a G-Sync option (i.e. they are not the -G chassis version) and this means that the W506 has FHD and 4k. The W706 currently only has FHD option but 4K is expected - no ETA yet though.

Hope this explains everything

 

Any info regarding full 980 on 750DM-G? I was planning to buy a new 15" laptop, i.e. P750DM/980M,before I see this..

I mean, it is definitely possible, but any news on the estimated arrival date?
My 7970M on P150HM just went dead (or something other than GPU itself gets overheated too fast). So I need a new laptop before November 10th. If the MXM form 980 is not coming this year, I'd rather choose 980m instead.

Also, AFAIK, P750DM will be the best Clevo laptop I can get this year, performance wise. Is that right?

 

@CaptainDM

Glossy vs matte is entirely a matter of taste, but there's a very good reason matte is so popular on display technology. Light and glare/reflections.

Unless you have absolute control over your lighting situation glossy is just bad. It doesn't matter how vibrant/accurate the colours are if you can't actually see what's on your screen.

 

Any info on the upcoming 15" and 17" AUO 4k 100% AdobeRGB panels? Will they be available?

 

Depends. GPU-wise, there are other SLI machines that perform better. But CPU-wise? It is indeed the best, though the real beast will be the new Clevo P870DM - desktop CPU + mobile SLI or desktop GPU.

On 17" or 15" models? Already several 3k/4k 15" panels availabe, Eurocom offers a decent selection of both glossy and matte.

 

http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Schenker-XMG-U506-Clevo-P751DM-Notebook.150709.0.html

No version on the English site yet.

 

Laptopplus has put pages up

http://www.laptopplus.nl/merk/clevo/p-series

I just spend some money on the 15inch

 

Yikes...

"Under full load, the Core i5-6600K already reached the 100 ° C. In normal benchmark suite we observed no throttling luckily. Depending on nuclear stress the processor running at 3.6-3.9 GHz. These are precisely the clock speeds that Intel specifies a maximum."

It also says there is a bug that in gaming the turbo shuts down entirely.

 

That can´t be right...Hyperbook already posted some results of a 6700k on a P751DM and they were good. Iirc, 83c Cinebench R15 multicore with auto fans and stock everything. My 4790k @4.2ghz and -50mv reaches 90c, and a lower score.

 

I'm assuming it was Prime95 that pumped the 100C.

 

On 17" or 15" models? Already several 3k/4k 15" panels availabe, Eurocom offers a decent selection of both glossy and matte.[/QUOTE]

This is the sad thing with the new models.... No one is offering Glossy 4K, let's hope it's just a supply delay. I would make your voices heard to all suppliers that Glossy in demand.

 

Do XMG put Intel's stock paste or they do aftermarket ones like IC Diamond, Gelid GC Extreme, etc.? On these machines, with desktop CPUs, I think it's an absolute must to apply an aftermarket thermal paste. Also both Prime95 + FurMark together is so unrealistic, that in 99% of cases in every day use, you will never reach such unrealisticly high loads on the system.

 

After reading this morning about the Samsung 950 Pro coming in October, I cancelled my order for the Samsung SM951 256mb that I ordered last night from AAAwave.com.

I was told my Sager NP9758 should ship next week so I can wait for the new Samsung m.2 drive. My attitude is all the way or not at all.

 

The NP9758 and NP9778, and -S versions, were posted to Sager's site this morning.

 

We will be getting that updated, it sounds like it should be up today with those two models. Any other new models will be updated on our site, as information comes out about them from manufacturers.

 

NBR is going nuclear at the moment with the samsung 950 pro / office 2016 / Clevo´s new DM machines / Nvidia 980 desktop mobile all releasing around the same time me likes!

 

http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(1,331,0)ec

There's a glossy 4K option listed there...

 

Hi all,

I have been checking that topic every day for a good while now, waiting for Skylake to release, and read any piece of info I could get about the coming DM laptops.
I am a nomad - freelancer, working around in Europe, so looking forward to buy a really good mobile machine which could last a while, and this Batman as you call it, might be the One

However I thought of something, and needed to ask your opinion, since this aspect is not yet tested in reviews; VR.
As a gamer enthusiast, I want to be VR-ready with my next machine.

I did some research, and it seems a large majority of people recommend against any laptop to run VR at the moment - the 980m being inferior to a 970 desktop for them, which is the recommended GPU by Occulus.
I don't know if the people say this with Optimus in mind, mobile CPU... compared to these machines here, at least running a desktop CPU and ignoring Optimus. (although I do understand GPU is the critical point here, because of "dual screen" factor of VR)

So what do you think; 980m definitely not being a weapon of choice for VR, and wait for the actual 980 desktop-laptop version, which will most likely have a scary cost (and whatever else will come with this new concept of desktop-grade GPU, like noise, temp...)?

In the hope that anyone with relevant knowledge or experience can tell me more!

 

So no 15" with the 980.. Bummer!

 

I read a lot on here but don't post. I think this is worth posting about. I have decided on the P77xDM model but I might wait for the P775DM now. Nvidia announced this morning the details on the GTX 980 for notebooks. Aorus X7 DT, Clevo P870DM, Clevo P775DM, Asus GX700VO, MSI GT72, and MSI GT80. All G-Sync with OC support.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/introducing-the-geforce-gtx-980-notebooks

 

not yet just wait a bit until the regular mxm boards become available

also, beware that every 980 version will have differing performance due to different TDP envelope, number of power phases, vRAM clocks, core clocks, etc...

thus, i dont expect the P775DM gpu to be on par with the P870DM, unless they completely changed the layout of the internal heatsink system on the former system, which i highly doubt, given that the model number just indicates style changes in the chassis... still, itll beat any 980M

 

Prepare for a mamoth post, sorry but lots of questions to answer!!

Unfortunately not possible, the 980 will only be available in the P775DM and P870DM, it is not supported by the P75xDM and P77xDM.

EDIT : Nothing new that I can say really, just a little patience required ;-)

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Indeed. Cinebench is not as demanding as Prime95 and Hyperbook ran it by itself. Notebookcheck run Prime95 and Furmark simultaneously (this is the CPU temperature that they refer to) so you will see much higher temperatures, they also probably had the fan setting on Auto rather than on Fn1 100% which of course you should have it set to when stability/stress testing. Very different test methods and environments give very different results!

There's not really any such thing as Intel stock paste in laptops because they don't use Intel heatsinks. We don't use the stock Clevo paste that comes on the Clevo heatsink though, assume some companies do use this unless you pay for an upgrade. We do use aftermarket paste, it is our own kind of secret recipe which is equal to MX-2 performance with better longevity. Everyone wants different paste, so we can't please everyone - but if you prefer Gelid or something else then you can repaste yourself if you wish

Correct, P75xDM does not support the GTX 980, only the P775 and P870 do.

Correct, GTX 980 in P870 (200W) outperforms 980 in P775 (180W). The P775 cooling is superior to that in the P77x, plus the chassis is physically different hence 980 is available in one but not the other.

 

noooooo!

 

Isn't there also a Samsung 94% sRGB? Will that be available for the P750DM/P751DM, and how about glossy display (or is it limited to matte only)?

 

how sad I guess I'll have to wait for 15" that supports it instead of a clevo... 17" is just too big and I travel a ton for work. Thanks for the heads up XMG.

 

I think you'll waiting until Pascal. Desktop 980 requires some serious cooling that only a huge 17.3"+ chassis can provide. Just my personal guesstimate.

 

Yeah you're probably right. Nothing like waiting for the next gen.....

 

It's all about availability and demand, I wouldn't rule anything out as far as displays go but (yes there is a little demand on nbr) in general the demand for glossy panels is pretty non existant in the big picture, Clevo would need demand of glossy panels from their partners before they could consider purchasing in bulk.

and @Cakefish yup, simply the smaller the chassis the tighter the cooling and the more that a GTX 980 would need to be restricted TDP wise in order to function without throttling. That's without considering the physical aspect of the GTX 980.

 

100% sRGB = 72% NTSC. Under 100% sRGB = not good

 

Hmm? Only laptop display I know of with 100% sRGB is HP dreamcolor - are there more options out there these days?

 

Yup, new AUO 15" and 17" with aprox. 100%AdobeRGB coverage.

 

Oh, so the P775 is not just another aesthetic variant of the P7xx line. Really thought it would be the same as the P655SA/SE were to the P6xx line. Thanks for the info.

@jclausius, after all there´s something more to the P775DM.

 

there were 90% NTSC panels for 17" before and 95% NTSC for 15" as well; 94% sRGB is nothing special.

Why do you think I keep yelling about these low-quality IPS panels every day?

 

Is the Samsung IPS panel on the P750DM good?

 

wiltedjoint, are you going to wait for the 1TB models gen 3 v-nand releasing in 2016? Or, are you going with the first release gen 2 v-nand maxing out at 512GB?

 

Can you share the model number for the 15" panel you are referring to? AUO's B156HAN01.2 IPS is available in some Clevo models, but only rated at 91% sRGB and 59-60% Adobe RGB.

Would be great if there is some other new option out there comparable to Dreamcolor or something like AUO B156HW01 v4 which I believe has been discontinued. I know a lot of folks want 4k display, but I'd rather have 1080p with excellent color reproduction.

 

No model number for now.

"In terms of high-end notebook PC applications, AUO launches 15.6-inch and 17.3-inch UHD 4K ultra high resolution displays with wide color gamut and high contrast ratio to present colors in more precision, meeting the demand for professional graphic designing and audio-video gaming. AUO's 17.3-inch UHD 4K ultra high resolution display for notebook PC has a high pixel density of 255 PPI and high color saturation of 100% Adobe RGB. Equipped with AHVA (Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle) technology, the display boasts impeccable colors and details when examined from every angle. Its image quality is comparable to that of professional desktop monitor display."

http://www.auo.com/?sn=107&lang=en-US&c=10&n=1794

 

No model number for now.

"In terms of high-end notebook PC applications, AUO launches 15.6-inch and 17.3-inch UHD 4K ultra high resolution displays with wide color gamut and high contrast ratio to present colors in more precision, meeting the demand for professional graphic designing and audio-video gaming. AUO's 17.3-inch UHD 4K ultra high resolution display for notebook PC has a high pixel density of 255 PPI and high color saturation of 100% Adobe RGB. Equipped with AHVA (Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle) technology, the display boasts impeccable colors and details when examined from every angle. Its image quality is comparable to that of professional desktop monitor display."

http://www.auo.com/?sn=107&lang=en-US&c=10&n=1794


Edit: Here´s the 17" one: http://www.panelook.com/B173ZAN01.0_AUO_17.3_LCM_parameter_25358.html

 

Sounds fantastic, thanks! Any idea whether this panel will be available from Clevo dealers?

 

Nope...

 

512GB.

 

Cool, please come back and let us know how it performs when you get it

 

I don't think Clevo would pick up this display.. it would be an interesting move if they did. But I think they will continue to stick with Samsung and Sharp.

AUO monitors are inferior to Sharp's, they're 17" isn't as attractive being only TFT, no IPS and the pixel density is low

 

Thank you for the correction EUROCOM is the only retailer I've seen that has the option for 4K glossy on the new DM. Hopefully the glossy option is available when the 17" 4K display comes out.

Though it's interesting they charge more for the matte screen

 

You're joking

 

Eurocom's prices in itself are designed by unicorns. Nobody knows why they're so high or who decides on everything.

 

Isn't the 1TB Mushkin Hyperion supposed to release soon? It was announced way back in January.

 

moviemarketing, the Mushkin 1TB Hyperion M.2 PCIe x4 is in the 22110 form factor, which won't fit in any of the laptops I have seen so far, they all only take 2280 form factor

Before the 48 layer 3rd gen V-Nand releases in 2016 (when?), there won't be any 1TB M.2 drives in 2280 for PCIe x4 or SATA.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8877/...d-displays-an-upcoming-m2-pcie-30-x4-nvme-ssd



Samsung Details 3rd Gen V-Nand Rollout 4TB 850 Pro, 1TB Evo 850 M.2, 1TB 950 Pro M.2 PCIe x4
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9652/...llout-4tb-850-pro-1tb-850-evo-m2-more-in-2016

Samsung Announces 950 Pro SSD, Their First Consumer V-NAND + NVMe SSD
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9650/samsung-announces-950-pro-ssd-their-first-consumer-vnand-nvme-ssd

 

Ahh, too bad!

 

Since 980 is not available, I think I'll stick with P750DM since it is the best 15" laptop around.

In NotebookCheck review, they have mentioned that the maximum power consumption will be near 230w with 95w CPU, without overclocking, is that correct? I know that would not happen in normal cases..
In their stress test, the maximum CPU temp have reached 99℃, and I'm kind of worried.. Maybe I should choose 6700 without K instead, anyone have info regarding stress temp of 65W CPU in P7xxDM?