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    *** Official Clevo P75xDM and P77xDM/Sager NP9758-G and NP9778-G "Batman 2.0" Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by ProFX, May 18, 2015.

  1. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    if u go for the P770DM and not the P870DM u dont really need two 330W psus with y adapter (if that is what u meant by "converter"), even maxed out on all components u wont be able to saturate one 330W psu. us ZM owners werent able to do so, although some of us managed to break 300W, but never close to 330. seeing as skylake is more energy-efficient than haswell, theres probably a lil bit more headroom even, especially coupled with ddr4 ram :)
    as for the P870DM, two 330W psus will be an absolute must! even at stock clocks itll be a very tight fit with a single 330W psu and might now be enough in specific scenarios...

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    SierraFan07 Notebook Evangelist

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    Good question about g-sync, I thought I remember hearing that the displays are automatically g-sync because of 970m or 980m equipped but I suppose the best thing would be to ask them directly. I didn't think about it because it's not one of the features I care about but certainly is nice to have.

    Sent from my sweet Galaxy Note 5
     
  3. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    I really wish we could somehow get a 500W single brick that supports the same connector as the current 330W bricks.
     
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    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    and that at the same size as well :) it would probably be already enough to have a 360-370W adapter to get by in all situations with a p870dm. they already did that jumping from 300 to 330w psus, so why not just make it happen one more time? cmon delta, do it! :D

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    Atreide Notebook Guru

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    In clevo's website you can see two differents version one for the p750dm and an other for the p750dm-g.
     
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    @jaybee83 - thanks for the tip on the 330w psu. Dropping The converter and spare adaptor shave a few hundred off the cost which help make it a bit more wife nod of approval friendly. Also saves me plugging in so many power chords by the sofa.

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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Its probably a heat issue... Have you ever felt your power supply after a heavy gaming session? They get pretty warm.
     
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  8. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    no cheap excuses! make like nike and just do it :p :D
     
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    Or add a cooling fan into the design lol
     
  10. deepfreeze12

    deepfreeze12 Notebook Guru

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    Hey, Clevo:



    :p
     
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    Lurker Below Notebook Guru

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    Ahhhhhhhhhh.

    I spent some time searching panelook.com, Samsung's own pages, and more generally Googling for references to newer Samsung panels that would match the supposed 4K PLS matte, and the only thing that kept coming up was a RGBW LTN156FL02 which doesn't seem to have been spec'd at the 75hz hinted at in the "mobile G Sync" press releases -- but if they're just current 60hz panels overclocked, that's almost certainly the one.

    ...and is likely to swing me to the 1080p option, I think, unless the 1080p option is also particularly dodgy with respect to colors.
     
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    AtiNZ Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just ordered the p770dm from mythlogic and the screens are listed as gsync compatible at checkout. Now I just need to wait until it's delivered. Woop!

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    SuperContra Notebook Guru

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    What screen option did you choose? I have a hard time choosing between the two.
     
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    AtiNZ Notebook Enthusiast

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    I only saw 1 option on mythlogic for the 1080p version if you're referring to 1080p vs 4k. I went with 1080p.

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  15. HYPERBOOK

    HYPERBOOK Company Representative

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    We have recieved first samples of Clevo P751DM and P771DM-G and we will start tests tomorrow. Do you want us to check anything particular? :)
    [​IMG]
     
  16. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    I've come to a sad realization.

    While the geek in me wants one of these, the truth is the most demanding task I perform on my laptop is maybe 1 hour of playing Diablo 3 a day. Between work and two young children, I don't game much any more.

    So I can get a P750DM for $2000 CAD, or I can get a Eurocom Shark 4 (Clevo N150SD) for $1000 CAD. They will both play Diabo 3 the same.

    Looks like I may have to pass on this beast, and wait a few years for my laptop usage to become more demanding before I can justify spending more on a gaming notebook.
     
  17. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    most importantly: cpu temps! stock everything, 6700k, intel xtu and prime95 at max fans (sequentially, not in parallel!) :D

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    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    That is one slick looking machine. Wow.

    Temps and core speeds... 3dmark and 3DMark11 benchmarks :D
     
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    HYPERBOOK Company Representative

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    Those are obvious tests :)We will post results within 24 hours :D
     
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    Awesome. If it's not too much to ask:
    • Pictures of then internals - drive(s) layout, memory, etc.
    • Pictures of the external ports.
    • Also, can you determine if USB 3.1 is also Thunderbolt3, and if there's a way see if you can saturate / bench the throughput of that port.
    Hope that is not too needy.
     
  21. Red Line

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    hyperbook
    great, could you also test speakers and headphones? i wonder if they improved sound a bit, tnx
     
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    Curious about temps and noise with and without max fans too. Some of us don't always want jet engine sounds coming from our machines when we are gaming lol.

    Power consumption would be a nice bonus also. Curious to see how much power these machines consume compared to the Haswell models.
     
  23. HYPERBOOK

    HYPERBOOK Company Representative

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    This is picture of the front panel and side ports. We will upload more pics tomorrow.

    [​IMG]
     
  24. Ramzay

    Ramzay Notebook Connoisseur

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    Looks pretty much identical to the P770ZM.
     
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    Notebookcheck have had the XMG U505 successor (DM model) for a while now, they should be publishing their review imminently which will enable direct comparison of http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U505-Clevo-P751ZM-Notebook-Review.134638.0.html and http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-U705-Clevo-P771ZM-Notebook-Review.141416.0.html . They test noise levels, battery capacity, temperatures and so on, so for comparison to ZM it should be pretty comprehensive :)

    In the mean time:

    - internals are basically the same, so is the cooling system

    - exterior is the same apart from that on the left hand side the USB 3 port furthest from the RJ45 is now a USB 3.1 which does support Thunderbolt 3 (already confirmed location and functionality in previous posts)

    - speakers and headphone quality - this has been improved through software. The X-Fi MB5 includes more control over EQ and so on

    Here are some preliminary benchmarks that we carried out on the P771DM in August with 980M and 6700K:

    GPU temp (Furmark + Prime) 79C

    CPU temp (Furmark & Prime) 98C (with fans on auto, NOT on Fn 1 100%)

    Max power draw load (Furmark & Prime95) 220W

    Cinebench R15 (Single Core) 163

    Cinebench R15 (Multi Core) 584 - THINK THIS IS INCORRECT

    I have loads more figures from August, but they weren't completed with final BIOS and drivers so may not be 100% accurate for retail units. Literally hours to wait now though :)

    @Ramzay - indeed, pretty identical on the exterior
     
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  26. jaybee83

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    if u wanna see internals and ports, just head over to the original batcave OP :cool:

    and yes, sleek machine indeed, i see that every day on my desk :D

    also, currently its impossible to saturate the m.2 ports with 4 lanes of pcie 3.0, there just arent drives available that are that fast :D

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    Important change in hardware is second port M.2 which now supports PCIe Gen3x4 SSD so RAID 0 with two Samsung SM951 will be possible :) Also P751DM has one more M.2 port, dedicated for 3G/LTE.
     
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    @XMG: sure u didnt oversee a typo there with the cinebench r15 multi score? 584 seems way too low for a 6700K

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    Correct, was confirmed a few weeks ago ;-)

    RAID 0 NVMe SM951 in P771ZM shows 4300MB/s+ Sequential Read :D
     
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    But it's worth to remind :)
     
  31. XMG

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    Fair enough, I realised that a lot of this info was discussed on the thread before you joined nbr - hence you may not know about.
     
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    Which version of Prime95? And which test (large/small fft´s or blend)?

    Thanks for sneak peek! :)
     
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    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Can you try specviewperf12: https://www.spec.org/gwpg/downloadindex.html

    Or any of these benchmarks:

    Adobe Premiere
    After Effects

    Photoshop

    Encoding

    Cinebench

    PCMark8
    Creative Test
    Applications Test​

    AutoCAD

    Blender
     
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    Yes, I edited the post, it is wrong but the Single Core should be correct. They are very early tests from last month as I mentioned, so the notebookcheck review which comes out in a day or two will have more accurate benchmarks :)

    Should be Blend Test, don't know which version they used but it's on par with 4790K on auto fan - again, nbc will tell all shortly ;-)
     
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    very nice) does it somehow interfere with GPU PCI-E lanes with this type of NVME RAID0 setup?
     
  36. ccarollo

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    Yeah, I'd love to get some dB readings on idle/load. I often use my laptop around other people and I'd rather not it sound like a hairdryer. :D
     
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    It's really virtually identical to the current ZM model which notebookcheck measured - just search for XMG U505 and U705 and checkout the Emissions System Noise section towards the end of the review.
     
  38. Ethrem

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    My P377SM-A makes a hairdryer look quiet... 70dB with max fans.
     
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    Did they fixed the annoying speaker noise issue?

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
     
  40. jaybee83

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    idle = dead (im serious! with flash storage only ull have to glue your ear to the fan exhaust to take notice of the fans :D)
    load = whooshing sound, not whining like a hairdryer. ive definitely heard worse :p
     
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    Thanks for the info (the other replies too) -- sounds like it's surprisingly quiet for a desktop CPU.
     
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    Welcome to clevo, where it doesn't matter what they shove into the PC, if it has two fans or more it's sounding the same with FN + 1
     
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    OCCT at stock. Go into options and untick the shutdown at 85C° Auto and Max fans please. Five minutes should be enough. Thank you!

    The N150SD looks like a really good machine, all around. ODD if you need it. SIM card slot. Good traveler. Though my P770ZM traveled well too. I just won't take it out on the beach. How geeky! :p

    @HYPERBOOK @XMG the fourth M.2 slot in the P750DM, a location photo would be nice, if it's not in the NotebookCheck review.
     
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    @Bullrun I've asked the guys to get a photo but they are all still flat out processing the DM stock delivery, hopefully by the afternoon I'll have something!
     
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    Cool! Thanks.
     
  46. Lurker Below

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    ...will it boot from an NVMe SM951 with the BIOS as shipped? Or do you need a non-NVMe drive to boot?

    Also, any id on the screen? Would be curious to find out about color accuracy and the like, but a part number should be sufficient if it's not a new panel.
     
  47. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    DM BIOS has native NVMe support (so do my ZM Mods and P6 beta BIOS). :)
     
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    uuuuh P6 owners are gonna be happy! great work as always prema :)

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    Well, I hope I'm not hitting FN+1 fan levels very often in normal use!
     
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    auto fans never hit 100% (fn + 1) so that's actually impossible unless you're already thermal throttling heavily.

    FN + 1 should be used however when doing stressful things =D.

    If you have a pair of headphones or even a single fan on in your room or an air condition running you'll not hear your machine on max fans.
     
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