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    *** Official Clevo P65xSA/SE/SG / Sager NP8650/51/52 Owner´s Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jaybee83, Oct 13, 2014.

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    I have a single RAM slot and now I want to upgrade it.

    Do I have to put the new slot below the keyboard or installing below de laptop would be enough for activating dual channel?

    I'm saying this because without installing together I don't have dual channel.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. jaybee83

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    it depends where ur first ram stick is installed. u have to either fill both slots under the keyboard or the two slots below the backplate in order to get dual channel :)

    btw, good find thrall! i will add that review to the OP shortly ;)
     
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    DID YOU SEE THE TEMEPRATURES ............. I can't wait to get mine ... BUt unfortunately teh GTX980M will be delivered at 9th to them... (yesterday it was the 5th) :(
     
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    Yes :) I already give myself cod'aw today for 23 €. Now i only need the P650SG to run it on :p

    Verstuurd vanaf mijn HTC One met Tapatalk
     
  6. tiner

    tiner Notebook Evangelist

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    Aha, so I have to put it below the keyboard with the other installed slot.

    For removing it just need to remove the screws and then push upwards slowly.

    Am I correct?
     
  7. jaybee83

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    For that, u better ask an actual owner of this machine, since I don´t own it myself ;) But yeah, basically that´s pretty much it :)
     
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    Yea they are pretty good speakers, nothing particularly outstanding about them but entirely serviceable.
     
  9. wickette

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    The fan holes have been re-adjusted on the p650SG,
    xmg-p505-review-base-300x201.jpg
    Probably that with other feedbacks from the SE, caused the little delay...


    As i said, PCspecialist told me from the beginning : december 9th for them to get the barebones. CANNOT wait just bought (or had):
    Far cry 4
    Civilization beyond earth
    Dragon age III
    COD AW
    AC : unity
    Final fantasy XIII
    Valkyria chronicles
    BF4 (finally in ultra)
    LOL/world of tanks.
    team fortress 2

    man tons of games to finish ^^ !
     
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  10. foosion

    foosion Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi guys, been lurking for a while now trying to find myself a decent laptop. Looks like i'll be getting this one with the IPS screen.

    Question: I live in BC Canada...would the best place to buy be XoticPC with the Canadian warranty shipping option?
    I've been caught out with a faulty laptop before and really want to buy from someone with good after sales support. Or is there another better place to buy from in Canada?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  11. jaybee83

    jaybee83 Biotech-Doc

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    well, eurocom is a canadian reseller, sooo.... ;) not sure about their customer service though, as opposed to xotic that got a pretty good rep here on the forum
     
  12. Dabeer

    Dabeer Notebook Evangelist

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    You'll need to remove the two screws marked with the keyboard icon, then find a smaller tool to carefully push to unsnap one corner of the keyboard. Then you'll need to carefully unsnap the rest of the keyboard from the top. Don't unhook the cables, just fold the keyboard over. Then you'll need to remove 4 more screws to remove the cover from the RAM slots.
     
  13. Liber8

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    I have a link for people who are interested in buying COD 'advanced warfare for a special price, only today..!!

    With this link u pay € 23 or $ 26..!!

    https://www.g2a.com

    Good Luck :)

    EDIT: I hope we can make a NBR team on COD, would be fun..!!
     
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    weav Notebook Geek

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    I like that they got the fan alignment corrected but kind of a bummer they switched to plastic for the bottom. Would have liked to see the sg model stay all aluminum like the se.
     
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    only for GT series, the rest of series have average to below speaker qualities. the dyna audio branding is a complete joke unless you have a GT
     
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    interesting info, here i thought that pretty much all upper-tier MSI machines would share the same audio quality
     
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    Finally December. Still feels like a long ways to go until the 12th, when Scan is due to get hold of the SG chassis. I may even finish Dragon Age Inquisition before I get my hands on the new laptop.
     
  18. Xavvy

    Xavvy Notebook Guru

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    Xotic PC is a great vendor based on my experiences with them. So I can vouch that they are quite awesome. Mine came in exactly on the date they gave me and was actually a day early because I got it without the operating system (hint hint those of you who know how to install an operating system on a computer without one, save yourself 3-4 days and DIY!!!)

    Be sure though to check on their policies with canadian shipping though, I'm in the USA but if I remember correctly you guys should have no problems in terms of shipping speed. Anyone else experienced issues with Canadian warranties for Xotic PC?
     
  19. foosion

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    Awesome yeah thanks for that...basically am just concerned about warranty claims.

    Was looking at the y50 or the MS60 but way too many people complaining about problems (rubbish y50 UHD screen, ghost pro heat issues)
     
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    Plastic? Nooooo. This will seriously impact my decision making process for a new 980M notebook. I wish HardwareHeaven opened it up and took a gander at the internals. I wonder if there is much work required to switch the bottom panel between the SE and SG.
     
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    Why do u think all-alu is better then plastic.? I think with a plastic bottom, the internal hardware stays cooler..
    I can feel it with my HTC One (M7&M8). Also made from aluminium and they get really hot.

    I also think the plastic bottom improves the wifi strength a bit. I know it does with the HTC One phones.

    I dont think a good quality plastic bottom is more worse then one from aluminium.
     
  22. alaskajoel

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    I think it may feel cooler with plastic, but that's partly because the metal is acting as a heat sink (which I like). Also, the wifi antennas are integrated into the bezel of the LCD which is all plastic where it needs to be.

    I like plastic if it's lighter and other aspects of the cooling are good, otherwise I would prefer aluminium or otherwise for structural rigidity and a quality feel.

    I would love to see some benchmarks between bottom panels, but I suspect it won't be a huge difference, and it may be more accountable to fan hole locations if they revised it on the SG. With my bottom panel removed, I don't see much of a temperature change during games / benchmarks. I see a much bigger difference with the laptop propped up in the back by an inch or two.
     
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  23. Delta_V

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    So, I just ordered my Sager NP8651 from Xotic PC this weekend, and left it stock except for opting for the 4K screen. I figured the price premium was worth not worrying about DIY screen replacement, and getting a great all-around screen, even if I won't be doing much 4K gaming with the 970M. I'll also be upgrading to 16GB of RAM at some point down the line.

    Now my question is on SSD upgrades. I asked about this before, and the general recommendation was to replace the HDD with a 500GB SSD, but I think I'll be better off keeping the 1TB HDD and adding an M.2 SSD, since I realized I'm going to have a lot of school-related software to install when I start grad school next semester. So a 500GB drive would be pushing it for space. I'm now looking for 256GB M.2 SSD options, and I don't see a whole lot. The PCIe options are a little out of my price range, so I have been looking at the SATA options. It looks like the Crucial M550 is the best option, and is even on sale for $255, but seems to be out of stock everywhere. The other options I'm looking at is the Transcend MTS800, but I'm not sure about Transcend's reputation in the SSD world, and haven't found much in the way of reviews or benchmarks for this model.

    Does anyone have any experience with the Transcend MTS800 SSD? And does anyone know where to find the M550 in M.2 form in stock and/or when it will be back in stock at the big resellers like Newegg and Amazaon?

    edit: It looks like the Transcend MTS800 is currently on sale for $115 at Amazon, which is a pretty attractive price.
     
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  24. AussieExpat

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    Are you sure about that?

    I was told the Metabox Australia models are:

    "1080p IPS matte LED LG LP156WF4-SLB5,
    3K matte LCD 15.5" WQHD+ / EDP (IPS PRO ) PANASONIC VVX16T020G00 LED 3.0MM,
    4K glossy PLS SAMSUNG LTN156FL02-L01 (LED) 2.6MM."

    Was looking at getting the 3K Panasonic & on panelook.com it says that model "VVX16T020G00" is RGB Vertical Stripe, not RGBW?

    If it's RGBW I might just get them to order in the Sharp 4k IZGO IPS for me.
     
  25. Addy246

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    Waiting on P650SG release in US seems to be forever! :(
     
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    Question for all SSD owners out there! What do you reckon of the price tag of 349.99 USD for Samsung 840 Evo 1TB SSD? Is this the lowest price ever listed for 1TB SSD?
     
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    This is exactly what I am looking at. This is the lowest price I have ever seen for this drive. Debating two of them in RAID0... Already got my 32GB of RAM a couple days ago which was also very cheap at $58 a stick.
     
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    Got an email of XMG, my 670 will come in at 15.12.,
    they changed their website too, only one option of CPU (4710), but they include the nvidia voucher now...

    No big deal for me, since i am ordered the 4710 with gtx980m
     
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    So your 8GB stick costed 58 bucks each? Nice!!! For now, I am fine with the stock ram size of 8 gig. Will get 2 stick of 4 gigs each that will cost extra 10 bucks.

    I am looking at HD options. M.2 pricing is much higher than conventional SSD because of their new technology which allows read/write speeds > 1GBps. I cannot spend a lot on HD at the moment, but yes, this Samsung Evo 840 1TB drive has got my attention.
     
  30. XMG

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    It's only the D-cover that is plastic on the SG/980M model, but it's not possible to fit the aluminium SE D-cover on an SG chassis without carrying out modifications that would void the warranty. Let's just say that you aren't going to improve thermal performance by trying to use the SE d-cover on an SE chassis - plus it's the one part of the laptop that you virtually never see;-)
     
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    Still going to get the barebones december 9th ?
     
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    That's when we are expecting the delivery for the P505 980M, correct. We can't 100% guarantee this date because there is always the small possibility if a delay in transit or customs, however the 8th/9th is the date we have been given by our shipper.
     
  33. Retron

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    The 3K is RGB. The 4K Samsung display is RGBW.

    Here's the datasheet for the Panasonic panel, as carelessly left online by Eurocom:

    http://downloads.eurocom.com/suppor...specifications/VVX16T029D00-1 IPS4PS2600.pdf

    The Samsung datasheet is here:

    http://downloads.eurocom.com/suppor...ations/LTN156FL02-L01_140826_V1 for CLEVO.PDF

    (And it's full of fun info!)
     
  34. wickette

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    Understood ;). thanks for the heads up. Are we going to see other P505 980M reviews soon ? :)
     
  35. Thrall2004

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    Hey,
    one reviewer at Notebookcheck.de has posted in a thread that he will do a review soon. (he said he already got the Notebook at his desk.. this lucky guy)
     
  36. wickette

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    good, thanks, i like their tests, i'd like to see the review of the 4710HQ+p650Sx particularly not the other oven 4870hq
     
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    Makes me feel lucky that the Aussie resellers offer 16GB as base.

    As for the plastic D cover, I know it's just the bottom, but having the aluminium down there would've just made it that little bit more special.
    Probably still going to buy one anyway.
     
  38. jaybee83

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    no surprise, mySn has stated on their website FAQ / tech specs of the P651 from the very beginning that the back cover of the SG will be made of plastic ;)
     
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    We're talking the bottom panel not the screen lid right?
    I don't have any problems with that, one good thing it seems the vents align much better with the fans on SG model's bottom panel :)
    It would have been nice to have an all aluminum chassis but that in itself would not make me not order this laptop.
    I actually prefer a plastic bottom panel, they are easier to mod and much cheaper to order if you need a spare.
    So all in all it's not a big deal .
     
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    That and it wont absorb heat too easily being plastic.
     
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    Anyone have a source for drivers yet? Seems neither Clevo nor Sager have them online.
     
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    mySn have a driver section up ;)
     
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    Eurocom Model Drivers
     
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    Which RAM did you get?
     
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    New laptop was delivered yesterday, already can't stand the screen it came with. Has anybody done a write up on how to swap out the screen yet?
     
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    Check HTwingnut's video on YouTube
     
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    Anyone has tested FC4? Horrible stuttering here!!!
    It's really weird, it only stutters when you move yourself not when moving the camera.
     
  49. alaskajoel

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    Out with the old!

    Swap is pretty simple. As you might see....I couldn't find my spudger, and wanted to get this in ASAP so a guitar pick was my tool of choice :) I struggled with one of the clips on the bottom near the eDP cable, but after realigning the display several times, I got it to cooperate. The new Samsung 1080p IPS display is gorgeous. Good grief, it's amazing. No dead pixels, minimal backlight bleed for an IPS / PLS style display

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    patched the game ?
    No cracked version ?
    latest nvidia driver 344.75 ?
    Optimus settings ?
     
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