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Most likely plug and play... only thing that worries me is I have read about some performance issues, but I also read there has been a fix in the firmware for this so make sure you flash the new firmware on it once you receive it.

 

Ok, I just completed the screen replacement with the LTN156HL01-102 (pics to be uploaded soon) and all I can say is WOW what a difference! It's so much more colorful - even the dark gray that I chose as my Windows color now looks like an actual deliberate warm gray rather than just a black with poor contrast and light bleed! Viewing angles aren't even a consideration now - while it does get a bit darker if I tilt the screen towards me, the colors still stay the same, with no inversion or fade. No dead pixels, thankfully, even though the board did have a few signs of being used (adhesive residue and a bent corner of the eDP socket/connector). I also didn't have any of the "burn-in" or warm-up time reported by others who've installed the LTN156HL01. There's a very small amount of light bleed at the corners, but I think that's due to bezel pressure. I'll have to see if there's anything I can do about that, but it's extremely minor and not noticeable during normal use, only when I view an extremely dark picture fullscreen.

No word on gaming performance yet - I'm still trying to figure out the Optimus settings and EA's Origin client. Crysis keeps running with the Intel HD rather than the 970M, and thus forces everything to medium settings.

A few other observations:

1. The keys on the keyboard are delightfully springy, with a solid click feel, not too much force required, not mushy at all. The keyboard itself is rock solid, no flex unless I'm really trying to push down hard on it.
2. The network performance seems quite slow. I'm not sure if that's the laptop, my router, or my service - but as it's Verizon FIOS 50/50, and no other computers seem to have the problem, I'm leaning towards it being this laptop. I'll look into that more tomorrow.
3. Fingerprints galore! I'm a greasy individual anyway, unfortunately, but even so, fingerprints show up all over this thing, even on the keyboard.

So far, though, I do like it.

Edit: Pictures!

First, my test image, downloaded from the internet because I can't get Optimus working.


The default TN screen, AUO B156HTN03.6:


And the replacement PLS screen, Samsung LTN156HL01-102:


Pics were taken with a crappy Canon Powershot SX200IS on Manual settings: 1/80 sec exposure, F4.0, ISO 1600, autofocus, no flash. Oddly enough, the TN didn't look quite that bright, nor did the PLS look that dark to my eyes. The TN was definitely more washed out and faded, while the PLS is definitely more saturated. All pics were taken at 100% screen brightness. I've since turned it down to about 40% and it is quite comfortable and looks very good.

 

Did you ask them about far cry 4? It is a Samsung promotion (not Newegg), so you might be able to negotiate, maybe? Good luck!

 

t really is a night and day difference, same reaction WOW when I first saw it.

 

No kidding. $113 well spent!

I'd HIGHLY recommend to anyone considering the NP8651 - upgrade to an IPS screen, even if it's not the LTN156HL01. It's well worth it, even if your budget is tight.

Edit: Just played a bit of Far Cry 1 on maxed out settings, and it looks nice, but more importantly, I didn't notice any ghosting issues, suggesting that the 16ms response time is just fine for gaming.

Edit 2: It just occurred to me that the fan that's on, and the source of the current mild heat that I'm experiencing, is the CPU fan - the 970m fans are still ice cold. Far Cry must have been running on the Intel HD, not the 970m. It's still cooler than my old M4400 would have been, but still... I need to figure out how to get that 970m running!

 

Both of the latest, 1TB TLC options are $369.
- Samsung Evo 840 Latest Gen
- SanDisk II Ultra Revision 3.0

I'm still curious if anyone has any info on the new 30x50mm mSATA version of the 1TB Evo 840. It's on-sale and only $90 more, a consideration for anyone with an older system with a 30x50mm mSATA slot.

I bought my Samsung U28D590D monitors from TigerDirect and Amazon for around $570 each around a month ago. NewEgg now has them for $479 - $20 Promo code = $459. Grrr, that's a savings over $100/each if I just would have waited a month!

I'm well past the price match dates for either Amazon (who only does for TVs and Cell Phones within 14 days) and TigerDirect (my purchase was in-store, as I tested the unit beforehand, and sometimes they match in-store).

EDIT: Amazon has ropped the price to $479 as well. I'm going to see if they'll credit me the difference, since I bought one unit from them. I just noticed I'm still within the 30 day period for a return, and even with shipping/restocking, it's an $80 savings.

 

Hey guys, ordered my p650se a week ago, should arrive soon.
Does every one suffers from the 970m issues?(unable to active it).
It would be a problem for me sending it back after recieving.
I guess I should hope it would be fine on my machine?

 

Could you guys please expand a little on that optimus problem ?

Only dx9 games are running on intel only ? crysis/farcry 1 for instance ?

Because BF4 and recent games seem to work just fine on the 970M

 

Benchs working fine here.

59 degrees in the GPU and 68 in the CPU after a 3dmark11 run. More than 10.000 gpu points, that's great.

So... seems that the samsung PLS screen replacement is the best option for a vivid image quality.

 

ok, i ve done some research... look at this thread...
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/techpowerup-official-ic-diamond-test.170121/page-10#post-2740927

i think now, that it will be ok to use icd, BUT as i am travelling a lot, I will not use it.
my fear is that when i put my laptop bag done, there will be some little hits, and MAYBE the heatsink will slide a bit, and will do some deeper scratches
after a year or so... but this is just MY fear on it

 

You would have to give it a good smashing to move the heatsink. Probably to the point of damage to the laptop itself. The heatsink isn't going to move a couple of millimeters on its own or with a tiny hits. There is multiple screws holding it down the heatsink.

So yes, it is your fear and you are over thinking this way to much.

 

If the heatsink is sliding it's attached wrong. There is no reason for it. But use whatever TIM you want,there's good alternatives out there.

 

After an 1 hour Farcry 4 maxed out run the GPU reached 66 degrees while the CPU stayed cold with 62 ridiculous degrees.

 

I just bought an Samsung 840 EVO 500gb SSD. It says it's "bulk" and doesn't come with any power/data cables. Do I need to order them aswell, or is it not necessary? Fast answer would be great.. In case I have to change my order.

I will replace this with the HD that's already inside the laptop, so maybe I can use those cables?

 

I'm having low CPU bench scores. Maybe that's the main reason of my low CPU temps.


It seems it cannot reach more than 3.09 GHz when the 4 cores are running, instead of the stock 3.29 GHz for 4 cores.

What could it be? Does the power cable have something to do with that? Just installed Throttlestop with no luck.

About 6000 points in 3dmark11 physics bench, while it must score about 7500. The same with XTU bench, I'm scoring 400 points instead of the 650 normal score.

 

No cables required, just plug it in.

 

I've just scored almost the same score without turboboost.

How could it be possible to score the same with 2.5 and 3.5 clock??

 

Hey everyone. I'm new around here. I've spent a lot of time the last few days reading this and other threads dedicated to new, high-end laptops, as I've decided I want to upgrade from my W350STQ/ GTX 765M.

The P650 seems to not have too many issues, especially compared to the Gigabyte P35 v3. For all of you out there that have gotten a P650/ P651, would you agree? I'd like to know before pulling the trigger on a purchase. I know that this laptop isn't perfect, but it seems to be the best purchase for what I'm looking for: a reasonably sized and reliable high performance laptop.

So would you recommend that I go ahead and buy it, or is there a better high-end, sub 6 pound laptop on the market that's not got throttling/ heat problems?

EDIT: Forget to mention that I'll probably be getting the XMG P505 with a 1080p IPS screen and a GTX 980M.

 

Ok, something is not right with this Optimus technology... I'm trying to run Far Cry 1, an old school DX9 game, and it should run on the 970m without it even getting warm - and yet my CPU is pegged at 78 C while the GPU is idle at 50 C.

This is with farcry.exe configured to use the 970m in NVidia Control Panel, and launching it with the right-click run with high performance graphics processor.

 

optimus is pretty horrible, I used to have an MSi with optimus (GT70) and it would do the same thing without specifically made hacks for some games.

 

This is restricted to old games.

Far cry 4 is out y'know :hi2:

 

I haven't even played FC2 or FC3, and don't own FC4 yet. NVidia Experience did pick up on Portal 2 and Half Life 2, so that's good, at least... but Crysis 1 I'm having trouble with still, too, and that one I've really been looking forward to being able to max out.

 

Have you managed to get games to use the 970M at all? Optimus usually works fine with all those games you mentioned.

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

I found this article with a YouTube video in it to change internal GPU to dedicated.

http://ucdavistechtalk.wordpress.co...tween-intel-graphics-and-nvidia-with-optimus/

And this method:

Download the latest Video drivers for both Intel and Nvidia from the Notebook manufacturers website. Uninstall what you have for both Intel and Nvidia. Install the Intel first followed by the Nvidia. Next, go to Nvidia site and download the latest driver you wish to use. Start the installer to allow it to unpack and cancel after the Compatibility check. Go to “Start”, right click “MY Computer” and select properties. In the popup window on the top left, select “Device Manager”. Unstack the display adapters and right click the Nvidia to select “Update Driver Software”. When asked, select “let me choose” and then “have disk”, browse to Nvidia unpacked folder (default C:/Nvidia) and keep going deeper until you get to the Display adapter folder. In this folder it will automatically see the .inf so just select “open” and it will fall back to the original window where your driver is listed, select next and allow it to install, reboot and you are done without breaking the Optimus controller and have the lastest Nvidia driver. There is no way to update the Optimus or intel without breaking the controller and updating PhysX will break it as well.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn HTC One met Tapatalk

 

For those of you wondering whether or not the dGPU of this laptop is being used or not: according to the User's Manual, the first LED indicator (speed gauge icon) is meant to indicate the usage of the dGPU. Off = iGPU. On = dGPU. Here's a screen cap of the page for lazy folks like myself:



Can the owners confirm this? Does the LED indicator function as intended?

 

Yes it does.

 

Are you sure it isn't idling. Run GPU-z while playing Far Cry 1 and check the GPU load. 970m runs very cool, like under 60C for me in most cases, my 970m runs < 30C if it's idling.

 

Not sure, but thought it was because the CPU was pegged when I walked away for a bit with the game running. Played a bit longer with my cooling pad on, and then GPU was warmer and CPU was cooler - both hovering around 60C - so it was probably the menu using all cpu, and not the whole game.

Think I might benefit from a repaste - my CPU is routinely at 80C+.

 

try run a stress test with furmark and see what happens, if the GPU doesn't heat up at all then you have are kinda screwed bro lol

 

Nah, I'm good - finally realized Crysis just wasn't recognizing the 970m's capabilities, and so was recommending medium settings at 1024x768. I forced it to 1920x1080 and very high settings, and it ran fine, with both CPU and GPU temps under 70C. Framerates were a lot lower than I expected, though - hovering around 40 in most scenes, dropping to under 30 in busy scenes! Still quite playable, to me.

Also, idle temps for the 970m are around 40C, so 50C after playing for a while seems appropriate.

 

I'm confused. Why is that necessary? You can't just download the latest Nvidia driver and install it normally? What do you mean by "breaking the Optimus controller"?

So would you P650/ P651 owners recommend this laptop model overall? It seems like CPU/ GPU temps are good, although some people are having a few problems?

 

don't you use geforce experience to optimize your game? for any non competitive game I play I just go with geforce experience settings, it's easy and generally works well

 

I'd recommend it. If I were buying again, I'd gladly get another one. There's just a learning curve for people like me that are 5 years behind the technology. Some problems are to be expected with a brand-new system, and a problem like I had, where it was damaged in shipping, is just a freak thing that could happen with any laptop, not just this one.

Edit: I'd HIGHLY recommend getting an upgraded screen, though. Either an IPS from the manufacturer, or if you can, install a LTN156HL01-102 yourself (I love this panel, have I said that yet?)

 

Not all games have geforce experience settings, especially not older ones.

 

Great, thanks for the response! This will be a nice upgrade from my PC Specialist Optimus 15.6", which is a bit bulky and is starting to really fall behind in newer games. I find it difficult to play without 60fps, so the 980m will do me great for the next 2 or 3 years.

Totally with you on the IPS panel. I'll be going for the XMG P505, which comes with one

 

Hi guys, my p651se came with an unsightly logo silkscreened on the lid. I really want to remove this, has anyone tried with their's?

One question though, does anyone know if the lid anodized aluminum or powder coated?

 

My new laptop arrived days ago. It run well until today. I took it to my school and then when I came home the slot for the earphone does not work. I do not know what happened. Just a few hours, without any collision or something that may cause trouble. I checked it for several earphones and no sound came out. Is it due to software or hardware?

 

Did it work before then stopped working or was this the very first time you tried it.
You can check your playback settings from the sound settings.

 

Actually it worked before and I fix it now but I am still a little worried. First I reboot the system and it still did not work. Then I got the laptop upside down and open the bottom to check the inside. And after I opened it, I did not know what to do, so I just touched some part of the hardware and then put it back. Then after rebooting, my earphone worked well. I am worried that my hardware may have bad connection which should not be happen in such a new laptop.


Oh,no. It went wrong again. I just pull of my earphones and took a shower. Then sound was just gone.

 

Where did you order from again?

 

I would avoid Tigerdirect. I have received two defective orders in the last month. Defective RAM and a mechanical gaming keyboard. The return process is a pain in the and they make you pay for return shipping etc. This is after fighting with them on the phone for an hour. Not sure if they are selling refurb parts as new but the items I received looked used. Never going to use TG again.

 

Guys can anyone give or point me towards some advice on the 3K Matte vs. 4K Glossy displays available for the P650SG? I've heard some varying opinions on other sites so a bit of clarification would be good. I'll be using the laptop between home and work for graphic design. Most of my work is printed if it's relevant.

Also, here's where I'll be purchasing from in Australia: Metabox Prime P650SG Laptop

Apologies if it's been covered earlier in this thread.

 

What's the difference between P650SE and P651SE?

 

brushed finish vs sanded finish.

Brushed finish (P650) seems to be the only thing available in the US, unfortunately - but it still looks quite nice.

 

Sorry for insistency, but I really want to know the answer to this question I've asked around 15 pages ago
Is there any way to turn on this frequency boost without messing with gpu bios/voltages/etc?

Also,is it just my laptop or speakers on this one are crappy in general?

 

The Metabox P650 series laptops offer an IPS 1080p screen, the same screen used in the Acer V5.

The 3K model offered by Metabox is the same one as found in the GS60 3K and new P35X 3k. That is to say an RGBW sub pixel arrangement with decent colours and very high brightness, but slight graininess if you look closely.

EDIT: The Panasonic 3K is actually RGB. My mistake.

The 4K model with Metabox is the crappy 48Hz IPS display as found in the Lenovo Y50. Not bad otherwise but I demand at least 60Hz in a screen.

 

They're better than my old M4400 by a mile, and according to others they're better than most Clevo/Sager speakers... but it's still a laptop.

 

Could be just my particular one, just unbelievable how much worse they're compared to my old MSI. Or maybe that MSI (GX740) has really good ones

 

its probably the latter, since msi is known for their superior speaker systems compared to pretty much everything else in the notebook market

 

Plus their rebate program is horrible. If you ever buy any item with rebate, don't expect your rebate to come in.