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(USD? ~1551.5054)

You meant euros ? Because it's nearly 2000 of your american bucks ^^.

 

Oh I thought it was euros to dollars? 1.25 USD

 

Good catch - tfast500, you might want to double-check that.

Also, where are you getting those prices? When I look, I see the 980m upgrade as being an extra £259.01 or €318.58, not £215.84... making the total for that config £1435.02 (~$2277.59) or €1765.07 (~$2198.11).

Just for comparison, Mythlogic's price for the same config (2 year warranty, 7260 instead of 7265) is $1785 (but we know it's not IPS).

 

No - the prices on the quote you posted were in GBP, which is currently about 1.59 USD.

 

Sorry I'm an idiot way to get my hopes up

 

Been there, done that. Welcome to the club

 

Yeah by and large you yanks get tech so, so much cheaper then we do. I really don't know why.

 

I agree with you, (I import my clevos from UK to France), they have that magic conversion 1 Euro = 1$ that pisses me off between sager and european clevos...

 

Hey:

Chassis - correct, the P505 is the sandblast (non-brushed) version, P651.

Panel - yes it is IPS Note it's not the cheaper Pentile Samsung panel.

WiFi - you can order with no WiFi if you wish, so all the module options have an upgrade cost ;-)

US keyboard - yes we have these available in stock now, error on the configuration page wasn't showing the option correctly - been fixed now!

We regularly ship outside central Europe, so we are very experienced with import/export, tax dealings and RMA procedures To give a fair comparison however, shipping is only covered by our warranty in EU countries.

The prices on our website include 20% UK VAT as standard, but when you click "Add To Cart" and then select your shipping country the website will take the 20% VAT off the price if you're outside the EU. So this accounts for the difference; if you're shipping to the UK the price would be £1,435 but if you order to the States for example it's £1,250 ! You'll still need to pay some duty/tax when it's imported into the US, depending on your state.

 

Ordered mine yesterday via XoticPC, I can't wait for it!

 

Uh oh - are all Samsung panels pentile? I just ordered the LTN156HL01 that gets such rave reviews over in the GS60 forum... I hope I'm not getting stuck with pentile...

That explains it. Thanks.

 

Right but the listings don't specifically say 101 or 102, they just mention it's an Asus replacement panel.

 

Is the SG version hitting the market?

 

I don't think until like early December.

 

Officially it's november 25th the ETA.

 

no don't do nbkit, I ordered from them before and they sent me the wrong screen

 

That's why I waited for something that had a pic of the actual item, and made sure it said 102 on it. I've asked the seller to clarify whether it's actually a picture of the item being sold, but I haven't gotten a response yet.

 

Thanks for the heads-up.

 

asus Q501LA uses 102. oh and make sure you look at the pictures, some of them are indeed offering compatible models
look at this one for example
15 6"LCD Screen Samsung LTN156HL01 for Asus Q501LA LED EDP 30pin WUXGA1920X1080 | eBay
the picture clearly shows LTN156HL01, and below the model on the right it shows 102, so I would say that's a right one

 

Some benchmarks from Eurocom

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw3ZsF-nMK4

Wish they added temps during testing but overall very impressed with both the look and performance.

 

That is the one I ordered. I'd offer to confirm that it's the right model once I get it, but it's not expected to arrive until late November/early December.

 

I've only seen/am aware of UHD panels that are Pentile. There is a noticable difference between the "4K" Samsung and true 4K Sharp though..!

 

Posted this in HT's thread on accident meant to post it here.

So found this on a TW forum about the P751ZM w/ some negative looking comments, not sure what it means however maybe someone here might know.



Form page here

Comparison photo P751 vs p570



Honestly makes the DTR one look sexier.

 

my wife is from taiwan, but she would get angry at me if I asked her to read a forum about laptops, she already thinks I spend too much time with them lol

 

lol I"m actually asking a few friends to translate everything off there for me as well as where they're pulling pics etc from. The main topic so far is about how the cooling will handle, other than that people are ready to throw their money @ it

As for the CPU's I"m quite curious what the S series is, as I'm only familiar w/ K and X for Desktop counterparts.

 

"S" processors correspond to Intel's "performance-optimized lifestyle" category. Basically, lower clock and lower TDP than stock.

Comparison between same number CPUs: http://ark.intel.com/compare/80809,80806,80807,80808

Hope it helps!

 

You're late to the party Also that's a P150EM in the comparison photo.

The comments are nothing exciting. Some are saying it's pointless since you still only have one GPU, and the SLI machines (P377SM-A, P570WM) will still spank the ZM. Then there's another dude saying they Clevo should've put a third radiator and fan in between the 2 heatsinks to help keep thermals in check. Otherwise it's just a lot of rambling and other nonsense.

 

That is my photo of the P570WM vs the P150EM.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...ngnut-s-sager-np9570-clevo-p570wm-review.html

 

Ah thanks for that, curious how they randomly pulled yours on that lol, also what about the cooling photo?

 

Hey guys, prostar posted a video of the p650se running some benchmarks: Prostar Clevo P650SE Gaming Laptop - YouTube

 

The seller just confirmed that it's the exact model, LTN156HL01-102, and not merely a compatible. Here's hoping there's no dead pixels!

 

Yeah, that's always my concern with buying from eBay. I have bought several screens from laptopscreens and they will check for no dead or stuck pixels for you if you ask, and also if you ask then they will honor an exchange. One thing I can't stand is even a single dead or stuck pixel. I know "industry standard" says up to four are acceptable, but I don't agree. Just one dead or stuck pixel especially on a 1080p panel these days, is unacceptable IMHO. I bought a cheap LCD on clearance a few years back to put in my bedroom as a spare monitor for streaming movies and basic internet, etc. It came with a single dead pixel in the upper right corner, and to this day it bothers me. Granted I don't use that monitor much at all, primarily for streaming slingbox for movies or TV at night, on a rare occasion. Otherwise I would just buy a replacement.

 

No kidding. I would have bought from laptopscreens if they had had the actual LTN156HL01, but honestly I find their practice of not telling you the exact model you're getting, but instead listing a number of "compatible" choices without telling you what those choices actually are, or what differentiates them from each other, to be more than just a little bit deceptive.

 

I always message a shop before looking for an exact screen to double check.

 

I see a lot of poorly scaled fonts under Windows 7, even several dialogs that come with the OS itself. It was worse under Vista, but 8 is virtually gone, for those included with the OS. Newer versions of MS Office are better as well.

If you are running Adobe apps, regardless of OS, the situation is completely different. Adobe actually cares and wouldn't be caught using stock Microsoft tooling when it's inadequate.

As has GTK+ for the last decade, including the Cairo presentation engine that virtually every GTK+ based window manager / font system has been shipping over the last 6-7 years, and GNOME 2 over the past decade. Microsoft is just now finally "catching up" to Mac and Linux systems, and Windows 10 will be much better.

I remember before Vista came out and the Windows Graphics Foundation (WGF) was way late and way incomplete. At the time Intel was furious with Microsoft that their Vista presentation engine couldn't do compositing on their GPUs, while both QuartzExtreme (Mac) and Compiz (Linux) had no problems doing such. It's that same issue with a lot of legacy weight and lack of getting the libraries, tooling and other things that is extremely frustrating.

 

added the second eurocom video with benchmarks to the OP

anything else ud like to see added there, just hmu via post or pm

 

The more I read about the XMG 505 Pro, the more I like it. Two fans on the GPU alone makes sense. Though with the efficiency of the 970m, perhaps they should have put the two fans on the CPU instead. Though I'm torn towards the P35W v3 for portability. On the other hand, the 505 is light enough I guess. Schenker says the 505 970m variant is shipping from the 7th of November so I guess it can't take too long to receive after ordering.

I'm considering this build:

- 1080p IPS (The screen from PC Specialist.co.uk appears to be a TN. I want IPS which is why I'm going with Schenker)
- i7-4710
- 970m
- 8gb RAM
- 2x Crucial m550 256gb m2 drives in RAID 0
- No hdd (I don't want the weight. I might add another full size SSD later)
- Windows 8.1

Any feedback?

 

drop the RAID 0 M.2, a SSD HDD is very very light. I'd go with a m550 500Go 2.5", you'd save money. Raid0 of SSDs is for professional only, i mean you won't fell the difference ^^. 520mb/s is HUGE alone. The laptop is quite light, why are you afraid of adding fex grams to it ? Do you have chicken arms ?

 

Single Sandisk Extreme Pro 480GB is more responsive than Crucial M2. You can buy 480gb from Amazon for £209.

 

I agree, RAID 0 is probably overkill. I'm on board with getting an M.2 drive for the OS, because it allows you to get a larger 2.5" for storage.... but weight is not the driving factor there.

 

Guys thanks for the input. I like to watch movies on it in bed. I usually have it laying on my chest, so the less weight the better. I think I'll go with a 256gb Samsung XP941 PCI-e drive as my boot drive (I'm wanting to retain the RAID-0-like speeds), and then I'll put my own SSD in for storage later down the line.

I also asked the guys at Shenker for their feedback. Here was their response:

I think I'll be placing an order either Tuesday or Wednesday with these guys. The 505 looks like a solid product.

edit: I will follow up on the Sandisk 480gb SSD, the price is not too bad. Could be my next SSD, though I'll have a look at some reviews.

 

Samsung XP941 get extremely hot during use. That will reduce its lifespan.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=764866

 

I hate to be a downer, but... Word of warning on the XP941 - supposedly it gets REALLY hot under load. I think in one heavy load test TweakTown measured 112C? Research this to make sure I'm not full of it before you commit to this. Especially if you're watching movies with it on your chest, you could get burned.

 

Hmm, I've done a little digging, the XP941 in the 505 is connected via a thermal pad to what I assume to be the heatsink/chassis. Think this'll be adequate?

 

That should help a lot, but if it's using the chassis as the heatsink, I'd still be a bit nervous about it being on your chest.

 

Yeah I was totally going to just get an m.2 SSD but after seeing those temps I decided just to get a 2.5 SSD and toss the 2.5 HDD. Just going to forget about m.2 for now until they learn to build some heat sinks on to those or something...

 

All that "crap" (i hate overheating stuff) just to have overpriced M2 ? whereas you have 2 SSD HDD slots... all I'm saying is that : it's too soon for m.2, i remember for Msata ssds it took some time before it gets "usable". Raid0 once again is, sorry to say just to show that you have a good score in benchmark . I don't find your HDD configuration logic

 

single 512GB Samsung XP941 costs around £375+, for that price you can buy excellent Sandisk Extreme Pro 960GB. You might even save few £££

 

Single Samsung 512GB XP941 Crystalmark run in XMG P505 (early sample chasis in September) in 1st m.2 PCIe enabled slot of course

 

Agree overall it's faster, but 4k are slower than Sandisk. For a OS drive 4k is more important than sequential speed.