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    *** Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HardCore88, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. DontHertzMe

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    Are you from europe? You can get it from Obsidian-PC with the Spanish keyboard and not pay taxes in that case (it's a Portugal based company).

    And you can always count on John@OBSIDIAN-PC to help configure it.
     
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    When I'm using MSHYBRID the notebook refuses to reboot or turn off. It just hangs with a black screen and the keyboard lights on, never fully turning off.
    It's a non-issue when using the discrete graphics... Any ideas what might be happening?
     
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    I am from Costa Rica (Latin America) :/
     
  4. Orgrimm

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    Guys. I did it. I went for the P670RS-G from HIDevolution.

    I went with the i7-6820hk with that fancy cooling paste. However, I ended up ditching 8gb of ram, the spanish keyboard, the ssd and went for the cheap wireless card (the killer one). I am planning on buying them (except the keyboard of course [can it be DIY installed?]) this november.

    I am so excited.
     
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    Congrats! Tell us how it is once you get it.
     
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    congrats! Also the killer isn't necessarily the cheap one. On lpcdigital and most other sites you need to pay extra to get the killer one.
     
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    Huh. I didn't know that, thanks. However, I have heard great things about intel's. Between 8260 and 8265, which do you recommend? What are the differences?

    EDIT: I guess it doesn't matter; the 8265 doesn't show up at Amazon.
     
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  8. Xileforce

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    I was googling that before I ordered. Killer used to have issues with drivers which got it a bit of a bad reputation, but I think they have fixed that since. The Intel seemed to be very reliable, and it has slightly better Bluetooth. As far as peak speeds and what not, I can't imagine there is much difference. The killer may help with bandwidth control if you are doing something like playing a game and downloading a large file. It is built for gaming after all.

    Edit:
    Between the two Intels I don't know sorry :(
     
  9. Jtknights08

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    I ordered my NP8153-S(P650RS) yesterday from LPC, 4k and 500gb evo 850. I have two 250gb 840's (sata) that I was thinking about running in this (i opted out of the 1tb). You guys think running these in raid as my gaming set up and non essential saves would be worth it? Just my own opinion but I wanted the 8260 (free upgrade with -S anyways) because it is the only one advertised as 5ghz because i live in apartments with about 20-25 other 2.4ghz connections floating around. As well intels screen cast tech only works with there own network cards which i enjoy doing on my desktop to my 4k tv.
     
  10. Aisaka Taiga

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    To whom it may concern, Clevo has thunderbolt 3 type c port on any new model which has desktop gpu(p750,p775,p870), but for those which has mobile cpu(p650), its just usb 3.1 type c port. (I guess its because the difference of pcie lane between z170 and hm170 which is 20 vs 16)
     
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    congratulations! As for the raid setup, I'm not sure there would be much difference. Because both of those ssds are probably already bottlenecked by SATA, not drive speed. Would running in raid allow you to bypass this restriction? I'm no expert on raid
     
  12. viw

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    mysn.de got spanich keyboard
     
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    sent from Nexus 5X
     
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    Does anyone know why P670 doesn't have the 120hz screen option like P775?
     
  15. Green Grass

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    Great! Good to know that scared me for a sec. Mine is shipping soon :)
     
  16. Kemsson

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    Dont know but i do have 75hz screen on my with g-sync on its crazy good

    sent from Nexus 5X
     
  17. Xileforce

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    Did you over clock to 75hz or was it 75hz out of the box?
     
  18. Kemsson

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    Out of box havent overclocking yet

    sent from Nexus 5X
     
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    Can anyone else confirm P670RS-G come with 75hz screen? I will be ordering one if it does.
     
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    The same question for p650rsg.

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk
     
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    Same question, but also, is it still 75hz with the 4k screen? (also referring to the P650rs)
     
  22. Kemsson

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    Ask the Company you buy from. im pretty sure that rs-g also have 75hz but still ask them just in Case.

    sent from Nexus 5X
     
  23. Paull

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    HIDEVOLUTION confirmed me that this laptop comes with the 3 zone RGB keyboard, a touch nicer haha

    I'll be placing my order with them, as soon as I can find the appropriate importer. Will keep you up with whatever I receive (pics, upgrades, temps)
     
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    is this with G-SYNC on?
     
  25. Kemsson

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    Its off

    sent from Nexus 5X
     
  26. Legion343

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    I have plans for changing my p651RE3-G for P651RP-6-G with 120hz display and 6820HK CPU (cooling in this model should handle 4ghz OC from what i see from this review
    http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Schenker-XMG-P507-Clevo-P651RP6-G-Notebook.171275.0.html
    Good repaste should be good enough + nice temps on GPU so Prema vBIOS should be great for this machine too (need to wait for RS but i have a feeling that "heat reserve" won't be that high).
     
  27. Xileforce

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    you cannot get the 6820hk on the rp6 only on the rs.
     
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    O that's cool! That's how it looked in the pictures but it didn't specifically say.
     
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    Is there a @Prema partner in Europe?
    Can someone measure noise under light, normal, high, ... every kind of load (already read notebookckeck review and almost every post here for 3 months)? I'm looking for something "light", "without" noise with some gaming capabilities (not really AAA, nor 120 FPS).
    Hesitating between MSI GS series (maybe also GT62) and P65x. Guess P71DM2 doesn't suit my needs unless really noiseless with I5 and 1060 ) 1060 is enough for my needs, I can upgrade things, make some BIOS changes (to reduce noise) but will never be a big OC guy.
    Don't (really) care about battery live.
    Was also thinking about e-Gpu (but seems meaningless except, maybe, for noise).
    Need to buy something during next two weeks.
    Thanks
     
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    There are two one is Portugal Clevo Center (they don't have english version so their website is like Klingon to me) while the second one is Dream Machines in Poland (they have english language). You can ask them for custom order but you will need to pay earlier and wait 3-4 weeks as i did with mine a nearly year ago.
     
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  32. Xileforce

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    hmm that's odd. I've not seen a single reseller offer it with the 6820hk, maybe it's a bug or maybe resellers don't offer it for some reason. It's all soldered on anyways so it's a completely different motherboard. I'm honestly not too sure.
     
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    Most resellers don't want to offer HK when they have also DM models and HK can be troublesome without Prema BIOS i think...

    For me RP6 with HK makes more sense because the cooling is still separate while in RS is connected with very hot GPU so GPU heat will affect HK Oc potential...
     
  34. SirSaltsAlot

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    So the 670 is 75Hz. Is that the 1080p screen? Sager told me the 1080p screen for the 650 is a 60Hz.

    Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
     
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    I guess that could be it, but every reseller, at least in the US offers it on the RS so it must not be too troublesome. It just doesn't make sense because even if you get the RS you still have to pay extra for the 6820hk. Not sure why they wouldn't offer the same upgrade on the rp6 models as well. One possibility is that they haven't rolled out the 1060 boards that have 6820hks yet. The laptops are brand new after all and already backordered. maybe it's a future option.
     
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    https://www.laptopplus.nl/producten/clevo-p650rp6-g,there you can got hk, it seems (Europe)
     
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    650/651 is 60 and can't be overclocked even by 1hz...
    The 670/671 have tgis very good 75hz Panel which can be overclocked to 100hz easily from what i know.
     
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    Damn, the p650 is getting the straight shaft. That kinda kills it for me. And I didn't want a 17 inch.

    Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
     
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    For pascal there is a option to get 120hz display for this model (with Prema). i'm gonna to order it so you can join me (Dream Machines) but I and maybe you will have to wait to the September/October to get them...
     
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    Believe it or not I broke my laptop back in 2013. And have been holding out since then to buy something new. Another month won't kill me.

    Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
     
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    sorry for the stupid question but what do hz affect ? why is it better to have more hz?

    to make up for it 650 has 4k display, but 670 don't
     
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    More fps and temp test





    sent from Nexus 5X
     
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    Thanks. How was Dream Machine experience? Not the cheaper (+10% at stock and not really clear what is + 1 year warranty - standard 2 + 1? Dream machine rep somewhere?)... Portugal Clevo Center doesn't have 10X new series - or I can't find it but I am not really good in Klingon ;-)
    Is it possible to go directly to @Prema to buy the BIOS? ;-)
     
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    For me, i haven't had any problems with them. you can send info to support in english. For warranty they have usual for EU 2 years for person or 1 for company. Both can be extended by additional year. About Rep there have here on NBR account.
     
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    Try with Obsidian-PC. They already have non stock vBIOS (not sure about this model), but you won't lose your warranty if flash BIOS from Prema goes wrong.

    They only don't provide Prema out of the box because of some exclusivity deal that ClevoCenter has for Portugal (at least that's what I read on a portuguese forum).
     
  47. viw

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    I'am almost there...

    Thanks. Market analysis give pc-specialist/obsidian/dream machine/laptopplus as the cheapest alternative in Europe. Pc specialist give somehow the best upgrade price (ish price as amazon). I will contact dream machine and pc specialist about warranty and BIOS flash (seems pc specialist allow keyboard config but no Prema and other way at Dream Machine).
    But, I am still worry about fan noise...
    Translatted: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-P507-Clevo-P651RP6-G-Notebook-Review.172321.0.html
     
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    To put it in simple terms Hz is the amount of times your display refreshes per second. Imagine a monitor as basically a device that flashes images really quickly. Because it flashes them so close together your brain perceives it as a moving object. If it was a 2hz monitor would only see 2 frames each second. It would look very choppy. Much like flashing a picture every 1/2 second. Imagine running a game at 2fps and it's the same idea. So when you get really high monitor refresh rates it makes everything seem smoother because you are flashing more frames every second. Example would be 120hz is essentially 2x as smooth as 60hz because say a characters arm moves over the course of one second. Instead of breaking that movement into 60 individual images that you would see, it would be into 120 more fluid movements. The caveat to this is to take advantage of the higher refresh rate you need a GPU capable of pushing frames that fast. Basically to take advantage of 120hz you would want to run games at 120fps. Hopefully that helps you visualize it a little bit! Let me know if not.
     
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    so if I got it right hz is the same thing as FPS?

    and what is the poinf in having a 120hz monitor if your GPU can't play games at 120 FPS at least?

    I mean at ultra settings FHD i don't think with a 1060/70 you could reach 120 FPS ..
     
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    1070 can depending on the game, 1060 probably not in most games. But yes Hz is basically the monitors fps. Now it doesn't apply just to games. Even just moving around in web browsers and desktop will appear smoother. Additionally I think having very high refresh rates is supposed to somehow improve image quality as well. Much like if you have ever gone from a 60hz flat screen to a 240hz flat screen the images somehow appear more real. I remember reading something from oculus I believe where they were talking about high refresh rates and their effect on better image quality. Also keep in mind that with a 120hz display, even if you are only getting 75fps it will still be smoother than 75fps on a 60hz display.
     
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