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    *** Official Clevo P65xRS(-G), P65xRP6(-G) / Sager NP8153(-S), NP8152(-S) Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by HardCore88, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. Jeroen-B

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    I think that will do just nicely. Looks very professional eyyy ;)
     
  2. Xileforce

    Xileforce Notebook Evangelist

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    The guy from obsidian PC was showing about 73c max under benchmarks on the 1060, about 77c on the 1070 max. he's in the general ballpark but probably not max load.
     
  3. Xileforce

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    The white does look nice. I like the red accented direction arrows on wasd too.
     
  4. Jeroen-B

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    Your gaming skills really get better because of these "gaming keys" dont they? Thanks clevo for reminding me that wasd is for controlling. :p
     
  5. Xileforce

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    haha ikr. I just like the way it looks. At least they didn't pull an Asus and make them bright orange. Though you never know when you may forget where the wasd keys are... Lol.
     
  6. Orgrimm

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    Guys, I've never bought from HIDevolution. How are they? I'm thinking in buying a P670RS-G from them, since they are the only reseller I've found that offers spanish keyboard layouts, and also because the have that awesome thermal paste thing.
     
  7. Xileforce

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    I've heard good things about them. They are a prema bios partner which means they will install the custom prema bios out of the box for no cost. One guy did say that his laptop came with loose screws and stuff which is worth mentioning though.
     
  8. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Literally my favorite reseller easily. Just shoot an email with any questions to Donald or Ted @hidevolution.com and they'll answer any questions you have. They are also one of the few places that offers the Prema bios which is another stand out trait.

    Edit: Lol if loose screws is the worst thing that's happened to them that's pretty awesome in my book.

    Larry and LPC Digital are runner up, he's the man too, but I can't say no to the Prema bios. All 3 people I mentioned are active forum users here too.
     
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    Well I guess I'll be buying from them then! Thanks
     
  10. Wonkyfinger

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    I ordered from HID last year and had loose screws and some reassembly issues that were easy for me to fix but still annoying. I was going to order my new Clevo (they call it EVOC) from them last week, but....well we had some problems and it didn't work out.

    I have ordered from LPC and have had a great experience with Larry so far, but I won't have my system for another 10 days or so. If you're into custom BIOS and overclocking, go with HID and the Prema BIOS. If you're like me and okay with stock BIOS or willing to make a donation to Prema through these forums to get his BIOS, go with LPC and save yourself around $200
     
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  11. Xileforce

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    looks like it's possible for us to install prema on ours once he releases a version for the new models here? https://biosmods.wordpress.com/ admittedly I'm not familiar at all with prema, or modifying the bios even on my desktop. Also just saw that sager is saying the displays are now back ordered until Sept 9th. Hopefully ours got in before that :(
     
  12. Kemsson

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    [​IMG]

    I had only 1 m.2 drive upgraded with 1tb 2.5 disk. i notice that if u want 2 pcs 2.5 disk inside they need to be 7mm.

    sent from Nexus 5X
     
  13. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Whoa, elaborate on the save 200 bucks part. HID was the same price as everywhere else for me.
     
  14. Xileforce

    Xileforce Notebook Evangelist

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    if I build an evoc the same as my Sager it ends up nearly $200 more and only 1 year warranty.
     
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    Yep, same here. my system was $1760 at LPC and the identically built system was around $1950 at HID with a 1 year warranty vs LPC's 2 year warranty.
     
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  16. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Huh for me the difference was around 30 bucks, and I'd rather pay the extra for the Prema bios and liquid ultra. I think my discount combo of cash + student was also better at HID. But fair points, LPC is a great company too.
     
  17. rav007

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    Are you sure about the 7mm drives? I was under the impression that you could mount 1x 7mm with 1x9.5mm too from the specs i saw.

    Also is the rgb keyboard compatible? I thought either was an option so if you wanted an rgb one you could buy and fit it yourself? Clevo website seems to imply either are an option
     
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    Can we get confirmation about back light bleeding on the 1080p p650rs-g? There or no?

    Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
     
  19. Xileforce

    Xileforce Notebook Evangelist

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    for whatever reason as I recall the p650rp6 prices were about equal but the rs prices are much higher. It may be because Sager is discounting theirs like $150 for back to school.
     
  20. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    *shrug* idk im also rs.
     
  21. Orgrimm

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    I gave a try to asking HID for a student discount. I am a highschool student so I am not really sure if it will count. I went "what do I have to lose?".

    The thing is, the spanish keyboard ($75), international shipping ($150) and customs ($250!!) add a whopping $475 extra to the cost, and I am already on a tight budged. It sucks not being american :/
     
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  22. Xileforce

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    Wow that hurts. I was feeling the same way. I found a good deal on an Asus gl702vs with gtx 1070 for like $1600, which was already over budget. Then I found out I had to pay $160 in taxes...ended up being cheaper to go with the clevo from another site with no tax which I wanted more anyways. Rip my $1400 budget...
     
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  23. mongon

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    Asus gl702? Any link?

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk
     
  24. Xileforce

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    my bad gl502vs not 702. I was looking on iBuyPower. They have 5% off with coupon code ATM. I can still link you if you want.

    Edit there is a 702 also but not with 1070 http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-gl702vm-db71.html
     
  25. Galm

    Galm "Stand By, We're Analyzing The Situation!"

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    Yeah I'm in Uni not high school, the edu email I believe is the main weight for that kind of thing. It may count though I don't remember. And yep hardware costs are total BS outside the U.S.
     
  26. Orgrimm

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    Maybe if I send a picture of my ID... I just want to see if they agree. The worst that can happen is that they say "no", in which case I don't lose anything.
     
  27. Reks

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    The 1070 chassis should be able to accommodate a 7mm and 9.5mm at least I think that's how it worked with the older P650 since it was a bit thicker?
     
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    That backlight bleed looks pretty bad in the photo (lower right). How noticeable is that in real life day to day? How about watching movies or gaming?
     
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    I'm 99% sure it's the case but should be confirmed ;). It was the case for the P650SG with 980m
     
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    Sorry to chime in here late, but the original discussion about the 6700HQ being not powerful enough for gaming is ridiculous. First off you are talking about one un-optomized MULTI-player game, so yeah that is gonna be more CPU dependent. But hell the i7-6700HQ is gonna be faster than the top end AMD gpu and most i5 and i7s. It will be fine for gaming. And I would get the 1070 with a 1080p screen, that laptop should last years. CPU demands are not going to get higher, only lower with DX12 or Vulkan, but every year eye candy gets higher and the gpu will always be the limiting factor. Hell I as playing DOOM with the 6700HQ and 980M and was never CPU limited or under 60 fps.
     
  31. Xileforce

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    You make a good point about CPU requirements going down for games in the future. Vulkan should improve performance all around in the future. There are very few CPU constrained games and typically they are poorly optimized ones. Only ones I can think of off the top of my head are the Arma series. Poorly optimized engine and complex AI. The 1070 and it's 8gb of ram should be very future proof. 6gb is plenty now, but if you enjoy running high resolution textures in games it may not cut it down the road. Also does anyone know if the multiplier can be increased a small amount on the 6700hq? I thought I heard something about that.
     
  32. Kemsson

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    Thats not backlight bleed i have tiny One on Upper right side it doesn't bother Me at all

    sent from Nexus 5X
     
  33. Kemsson

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    Im not sure i just guess becuse it looks very tight in there i still advise you to use 7mm, about that rgb compatible if its true i get one :)

    sent from Nexus 5X
     
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    do these models have thunderbolt 3 port ???
     
  35. Xileforce

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    Don't believe so. Though if I may inquire, what is the advantage of going from normal USB 3.1 speeds of 10gbs to 40gbs. Not even the fastest pcie ssds can read or write 10gbs anyways so it seems like the connection would never be the bottleneck? Or am I missing something?
     
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    u see the benefit is of egpu if performance takes a hit in foreseeable 1.5 - 2 years just use a dock and ur done.
    In my case a cant afford a pc as im on the move so a laptop with thunderbolt was needed yet it has to be lightweight but since u confirmed that these laptops don't have thunderbolt 3, ithink the only option left for me is clevo 750dm series but it weighs a lot almost 4kg.
     
  37. Xileforce

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    gotcha, the egpu thing makes sense. I was thinking purely from a file transfer point of view. Just double checked clevos website and it doesnt list thunderbolt 3 as a port. Best it has is 3.1 gen 2(10gbs) which probably isn't good enough for an egpu.
     
  38. slim shady

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    **** and here i was thinking of stuff, tnx for bringing attention to the gen2 fact.Now hunt continues for a gaming laptop with gen 3 port + a gtx 1060/1070
     
  39. Xileforce

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    I was referring to the p650 not the other one you were looking at if that's what you thought I meant.
     
  40. slim shady

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-np9172-wingman-2-0-batman-3-0-lounge.794538/

    but if u see these specs it is clearly listed as thunderbolt 3 port, now if i read it correctly it should mean a gen 3 port or am i missing something ?
     
  41. Xileforce

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    USB 3.1 gen 3 doesn't exist. That definitely seems to say it has thunderbolt 3 imo. But on clevos site for that model it says this for ports.

    • 1 x USB 2.0 port
    • 3 x USB 3.0 ports (USB 3.1 Gen 1) (1 x powered USB port, AC/DC)
    • 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 port (Type-C)
    • 1 x USB 3.1 Gen2 port (Type-C)
    • 2 x Mini DisplayPort 1.3
    • 1 x HDMITM output port (with HDCP) [​IMG]
    • 1 x 2-in-1 Audio Jack (Headphone / S/PDIF optical output)
    • 1 x Microphone jack
    • 1 x Line-out jack
    • 1 x Line-in jack
    • 1 x RJ-45 LAN port
    • 1 x DC-in jack

    So I'm really not sure o_O
     
  42. slim shady

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    the details on clevo sites are not clear enough regarding thunderbolt ports. If they include a thunderbolt 3 port they should just directly say so.
     
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    Msi gs43vr gs63vr and gs73vr all have 1060gfx and thunderbolt 3
     
  44. slim shady

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    tnx for the info. Is there any chance of a 1070 + thunderbolt +g sync cause this thing is going to be a huge investment for me and i dont plan on using egpu for atleast 1.5-2 years also here in india everything is damn expensive almost double the us prices.
     
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    How often do you use thunderbolt?

    Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk
     
  46. slim shady

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    my main use for thunderbolt is egpu support cause lets face it mxm upgrades are gone and i don't wanna sink my money on a "maybe future support" on mxm upgradability and pc is not feasible for me as im on the move.
     
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    Im from germany and for me there are 2 resellers (one, notebookGuru) selling the P65xRP6 in brushed metal look and 1080p/geforce 1060. The difference is 300 Euro, the keyboard backlight color (white and multicolor) and probably the display.
    Im asking myself if its possible to buy a multicolor keyboard on ebay and replace it myself. Are there any bios/driver
    restrictions?
    And where are the differences between rp6 and rs?

    thanks in advancce
     
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    I've been looking for that, and haven't seen it yet in the 15" form factor. I think I saw a Clevo that had those specs, but it was 17" and 4kg+ and I discounted it.

    MSI GT73VR does 1070 + thunderbolt + 4k screen, but I'm fairly sure it doesnt have gsync on the built in screen.

    Hmm just found the Asus ROG G752VS which apparently does have 1070 + gsync and thunderbolt... 17" though...
     
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    the asus is 4.5 kg as good as a p750dm / p775dm looks like the combination i want is not available in slim form factor i.e below 3kg but hey tnx for the info and help
     
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    That's correct, in fact the Pascal models have this feature as a follow on from the Maxwell series (P6**S*). a direct connection between the internal display and the Nvidia dGPU is required for G-Sync support, hence the MUX switch. The external video outputs are hardwaired to the Nvidia dGPU, only the internal panel will switch between dGPU and iGPU / between MSHYBRID/Optimus and dGPU mode. Might be handy to have this type of information added to the first page specs of this thread as I've lost count of the number of times that it has been discussed - but it's not at all easy to find this type of information when you're looking through hundreds of posts :)

    We don't differentiate between the Clevo GPU options in these models, the P507 covers the P65*r* no matter which GPU is installed! Otherwise we would have loads more model numbers and so it's easier just to have the GPU option on the overview and configuration page :)
     
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