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That's exactly how it works for the 650rs-g. You can even set it to pulse or random if you're into that sort of thing.

 

thanks for confirming! I guess it's cool they give you the option to pulse and whatnot. Though I doubt I would ever use it lol. The only sorta cool use I've seen for that was on the steel series keyboards as I recall they can sync with certain games to display in game effects on keyboard. Like health means left side of keyboard fades from green to red etc. I could be thinking of a completely different laptop keyboard though so don't quote me!

 

It might work that way. I just messed around in the light settings for a bit and there are a lot of options.

 

I just got my P650RP6-G and I'm really overwhelmed with this machine. Best bang for the buck for sure.

I went with Obsidian-PC and they were really awesome. My order was placed 2 days ago almost in the evening and it arrived this morning.
Since I wanted to place an SSD myself I've even contacted them by phone and they walked me through the process.
They just place their logo in the cover and the letters "OBSIDIAN" bellow the screen, which gives it a cool look in my opinion (it's still very discreet).
Can recommend to anyone from Europe to buy from them without second guessing.

Drivers/software related I only had trouble starting the GeForce Experience app, even after reinstalling both the app and the NVidia drivers it was no good. Installed the GeForce Experience Beta (standalone download, no drivers included) and it worked great.

I'm really impressed with the laptop and it's build quality. I'm going to test it now with some games like Batman, Assassin's Creed, NBA2K, Rocket League. Wondering how loud will these fans be cause until now I had to place my ear really near the laptop to hear them

 

I'll buy them the same machine (and i'll place the ssd myself too) so it's great to see a feedback about them, thank you!

 

Would it be here under P65xRS(-G)....? http://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_down.asp?lang=en
I was looking for drivers for P670RP6 and emailed sager. They said that their engineers are working on posting them.

 

Put my order in as well today, we'll see when it delivers. Thanks for everyone's help here!

 

Couldn't anybody just put the Prema bios on any resellers version?

 

They don't seem to be available to the public for free.

 

Yes, but the problem is if your computer breaks and lets say Xotic goes to fix it and discovered you changed the bios then boom no fixie.

You can get his bios with a donation on his website.

 

There was mention earlier in this topic about a bios update that fixed the high fan noise reported in NotebookCheck's review of the p650rp-g

Does anyone know if that was the Prema bios? or original Clevo one? My laptop will have the Prema bios apparently, and I've no idea how I would go about updating it. My supplier Scan.co.uk doesn't seem to have a download option on their site, can I use the download from a different supplier?

 

AKA not free...

 

can a p670rp6 owner make a short review please 

 

That's true.. I hear the Prema bios changes a lot of EC functions and really fixes a lot of weird CPU oddities and throttling.. Seems like Clevo is purposely gimping the CPU to have less heat problems/warranty claims.

 

I've got a short review coming for everyone tomorrow of the 650RP6 from Xotic PC. Let's just wet your appetite and say I'm blown away by what I've seen so far!

 

It's turning out it seems that the P650RS is pretty loud.. Wondering if it's a wooshing sound (Akin to the MBP15 under full tilt) or has a sharp fan sound to it... Like sort of high pitched maybe?

I'm used to my G751 (in sig) and it's so quiet that even fully loaded up with Furmark/Prime95 that it only makes a deep low toned fan sound that isn't even that bothersome.. Sure you can hear it, but it wouldn't bother a wife and the baby sitting next to you.

Yeah yeah, I know it's a huge 11 lb, 2" thick laptop with big serious fans but i'm thinking the MSI G62VR might be the better choice for me this next round.. I need a 15" that I can toss in my bag.. I cannot carry/travel with this 11 lb 17" beast of a laptop so it just sits on my coffee table as my couch warrior/gaming machine. I'm looking for something I can travel with and not annoy my coworkers when the fans spin up. I had a MSI GT63VR (the super thin 15) and it was an absolute SCREAMER.. People in my office were complaining the first day I brought it in and the slightest thing you do in Windows would just make the cpu fan go nuts and it wouldn't settle down quick enough.

I'll see how this thread pans out.. I wish someone would have some personal time with the GT62VR and the G650RS to compare.

 

Hey guys. New to this site. Just wanted to ask if you guys would know if the 17" P670 i am looking at 2 local resellers in my country is the P670RS version. I"ll link the both of them down below. And regarding the extra heatpipe that runs from the GPU heatsink to the CPU, is it available on all GTX1070 versions or only the P6x0RS?

http://www.techarmory.my/index.php?route=product/product&path=58&product_id=235

http://store.illegear.com/s-series/114-illegear-s7.html

 

If it has 1070 its the RS. And yes it would have the extra heat pipe the p650 rs also has it. P650rp6 doesn't but I think p670rp6 does.

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I received my p670rs-g yesterday (i7 6820hk/gtx1070)
Firstly, it is loud! there only seems to be a couple of fan speeds for the GPU, idle and loud! I hope a new BIOS will introduce more levels for a smoother transition. Even if I cap frames and keep GPU temps low it is still loud.
I don't have a decent sound meter but I would say it is as loud as a MBP retina on full tilt but less than a razer blade/aorus x7.

Other than the fan noise the laptop is amazing.

The new RGB keyboard looks and feels brilliant.
Sound is above average for a laptop
Build quality is great
the 1080p panel is 75hz

This is my first laptop with gsync and at the moment I am not sure what to make of it. I expected it to cap the fps to my monitors 75hz but it doesn't. Is there something I am missing?

I will be opening it up later to add my SSDs and repaste it then I will be completing a fresh install of windows 10

 

many thanks for your clarification! So both the models i have linked would be RS if i select the 1070 in the configurator correct?

 

The illegear one seems to be for sure. The other ones a bit weird because it doesn't offer the 6820hk which is an option. But afaik you can only get a p670 with a 1070 as an RS. Then again that first link also says its an AMD so....

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i see hahaha i am just very particular on the temps since I live in the PH and when it's summer here its very hot anyway looks like i will wait for a review with the new fan profile or updated EC/BIOS

 

Wow, really? That would make the P670RP the best choice for us noise-conscious gamers. I mean, I was thinking it would be anyway, due to it's size and it 'just' having a 1060, but the added heatpipe is great news.

I really wanted a 1070 this gen, but unfortunately pascal seems to get much hotter than we all hoped.

 

Perhaps some higher end thermal compound may help. I've used it to tame my OC-ed 970M. Specifically used Coollabratory Liquid Pro since ultra wasnt available in my country

 

Apparently the AMD thing was a mistake on their end when making the webpage. Notified them already. Also i checked, the 6820HK is available but wont arrive till late sept. The 6700HQ is still a very capable alternative aint it? I dont dare play around with CPU clocks and voltages since ive only had experience with GPU OC-ing

 

Did you purchase with the GPU+CPU thermal compound add on? Would like to know how the fan performs after you repaste. Thanks!

 

Yes the 6700HQ is pretty capable for games

 

Bear in mind that the 6700hq will bottleneck the 1070 in games that are more bound to the cpu than the gpu. But then again, If you aren't going to overclock a 6820hk it's kinda pointless to buy it in the first place

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Those tend to be games less concerned with frame rate anyway like strategy games.

 

I just chose the basic paste as I would rather repaste myself. I don't expect a difference in fan noise though as there does not seem to be steps as load is added, it just jumps from idle to loud. I expect a BIOS update will have a bigger effect and I will be keeping my eyes open for one

 

from my PERSONAL point of view (some people think that every post is an official report from Nvidia...) : if you position your fans underneaths the fan intake you usually decrease the temps by 3 to 5°C (notepal U3 )

From what i can read both pcspecialist and XMG seem to have received a new BIOS from Clevo

 

Just to echo the statements from others here - the fans on my 1070 650rs-g do only seem to have two speeds. Idle and full. Especially that damned CPU fan, which is crazy loud at full throttle.

On the plus side the only time I've gotten the fans to kick up so far has been during benchmarking.

Do you think that GPU temps near 90 and CPU temps of 96 during said benchmarking are cause for concern? The latter seems worrisome.

 

Repaste + New bios than you will see much more improvements IMO

96°C is quite high, 90°C however seems (sadly ^^) normal for the 1070 from everything I read/saw : Asus GL502, msi GT72VR etc.

 

I'm hoping for a bios update. I should have mentioned that this model came with the IC Diamond (?) paste on the CPU and GPU. I could try a repaste myself but to be honest I'd rather not mess with the innards. I have gorilla-hands that don't work well inside teeny multi-thousand dollar machines.

 

Oh, and here's a pic of my 650 rs-g next to some squash. Gorgeous

 

How do clean it properly then? I have to break mine open every 3 months or so, or the cooling capabilities are significantly compromised. Re-pasting isn't that difficult. The most tedious part is probably dealing with the little screws and plugs. A unit that sees moderate use is going to need re-pasting periodically regardless of how good the factory job is. IMO, it's one of those projects that sounds a lot worse than it is.

 

I bought the 670rs-g from hid evolutions and it comes with prema bios

based on what you said it should be a good thing to have the Prema Bios and all the assistance from HID in order to configure it

 

that silver lining hahaha GLORIOUS!

can you post a picture of the insides please

 

@ace_bandage: what benchmark do you use when you reached those temperatures ?
Your temp are quite high ... but is it a peak or a constant temperature when the gpu is loaded ?

 

I'm hopefully receiving my P650rs-g with 1070 tomorrow, assuming I need the bios update to quiet the fans, where do I get it from?

 

I'm in the market for a 10xx machine and am considering both MSI and Clevo platforms. The price point of the P6XX variants was attractive until I began reading about some of the reported temps here, which are very disconcerting. Heat is an electronic device's greatest enemy and not only contributes to the chances of critical failure, but functions to reduce product life by half with temp increases of just 10c degrees. I'm going to have to look toward MSI and Clevo's other solutions, myself.

http://www.ctmmagnetics.com/the-effect-of-temperature-on-the-life-of-power-electronic-devices/

 

The unreal valley benchmark is what really got the system hot. But I ran it for like ten minutes before doing the actual benchmark. The temps steadily climbed while I was running that. Temps seem totally fine during normal activity, though. I need to get some time on it gaming to see how the system handles normal use.

 

You can't use an article talking about lifespan where saying its short directly benefits their own interests. That's extremely biased. Heat reduces lifespan, but usually not to the point of it being likely to die within its lifespan unless its extremely hot for that product. The operating temps for these new Pascal cards are extremely high compared to any others I can remember. So they are gonna run hot, but they are expected to.

 

The fact that heat shortens the life of electronic components is common knowledge, and as such really requires no support. I linked something more out of courtesy than anything else. Those operating temps are too hot for any laptop (presumably one used for regular gaming sessions). The laptop I'm replacing OC's +25%, and maintains 68c during heavy use. I've had it for 4 1/2 years and have little doubt it will be running longer still for my daughter to whom I am passing it along. I suppose if I were planning on an 18mos usable life it might be different, but probably not even then. 95c is unacceptable. Clevo does offer appropriate platforms for Pascal but this ain't it, IMO.

 

I suppose, its also interesting that reports have also come in with this:
The hardware has to sweat significantly more. However, the temperatures remained uncritical even after an hour of full load with the FurMark and Prime95 tools. Just under 80 °C (~176 °F) at the Core i7-6700HQ and about 70 °C (~158 °F) at the slightly throttling GTX 1060 (this is rather due to FurMark than to the cooling system), are alright, since the CPU Turbo is still slightly used. Conversely, the XMG P507 need not get as loud as it currently does.

From notebookchecks review here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/Schenker-XMG-P507-Clevo-P651RP6-G-Notebook-Review.172321.0.html

Other users also reported the 1070 capping out at 77C. The differences in reported temps is concerning, but I don't think its appropriate yet to give a blanket statement saying these things run hot. The Asus GL502 has very similar reports right now, and even thicker laptops are getting temps in the 90s. It seems it may be the case that Pascal just runs hot, and temps hitting 90C is going to be common.

What is the laptop your replacing? What gpu?

 

Yes i agree, we ALL know that heat reduces life span, BUT you're not taking into account the specs of the components and their quality ...if i take a military grade mosfet and a generic standard one, believe me the first is going to last a lot longer ^^ !

And yes PASCAL is built for OC and Turbo mode it runs HOT but's engineered for running hot, so no I won't worry.
Regarding the skylake GPU, yes it is resistant to high temps, 96°C that's 'just' a bad fan profile, the fan stays in mode 1 even if the temps are increasing and when it reaches a very high temp => mode 2, but by the time it's in mode 2 it's too high.

If I run on ANY 15'' laptop valley benchmark for several minutes it will reach the 90°C even if in games it's 70°C, (that was the case with my P650SG)

 

Vaio F23, i7-2670qm, GT 540m. Stock clocks 672, overvolt and OC to ~862.

 

That's not what I would consider great cooling ability.

 

Not sure that's a fair comparison, a 540m is much easier to cool and only a 35W tdp...

 

I'm not comparing Sony's F23 cooling solution to Clevo's P6xx, but I am going to give significant consideration to average operating temps particularly when other chassis offer better cooling. Given the fact that I don't purchase as often as some do, I'll gladly pay a little more for Clevo's P7xx or MSI's GT platforms.