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can use additional p;ower adapter with the 375sm right?

 

The 375SM comes with a 330W now instead of the old 300W so it has more power anyway but yes I think the adapter should still work, they use the same power plug IIRC.

 

isnt the heatsink roughly around 130 but sandy E is 150 TDP at stock? iirc ivy E announced by intel to be around 130 so there isnt much room to OC anyway. gonna need bigger fans and better heatsink or wait for haswell E or broadwell E

 

I've had a d900f now for the last three years that I have enjoyed except for three things:

1)The heat. It sure gets warm. I don't know to what temperature but I can feel the heat especially between the monitor and the keyboard
2)Fan noise. It can be a little loud. I have this computer for the purpose of mixing audio on the road and it would be great if were a little quieter.
3)Cpu. Mine has an i7-980(not x) and I do on occasion, after all the plugins I add, max out the cpu and not in a good way.

So I am interested in upgrading to the p570wm because a 3930k would give me an almost 40% increase in cpu power, per cpubenchmark.

Has anyone with any experience with the d900f been able to compare the heat and the fan noise to the p570wm? And has anyone done any fan modding to get quieter fans?

 

I haven't seen any direct comparisons, but I'm sure there is a review of the machines buried in the archives that you could use to compare to Wingnuts write up on the 9570. The D900F was using some pretty hot components, they have got a lot cooler running as of late, so shouldn't have too much trouble but the machine itself isn't going to stone silent or cold with the hardware it boasts.

Fan Relates back to the heat, has cooler components so fans need to kick in less, but I'm sure the noise is comparable between the two when going at full bore.

I don't believe you'll be maxing out the current gen CPUs with your usage, so I wouldn't worry about that. We have people using the mobile 4600qm/3630 for that usage and not having much trouble.

 

Even if we had Terahertz cpus, someone would find a way to max out the processor doing audio (and video too)! It's just the nature of programming to want to take advantage of faster cpus with more complicated algorithms. Also, I work with high track counts (over 100) so I am not your typical audio guy.

I was hoping someone out there might have been able to make a direct comparison. I've looked at all the reviews I could find of the p570wm and some say it makes an audible noise but nothing debilitating and some say it is quite loud and one review said it sounded like a server in the room! Of course part of it could be how the different computers are set up (core parking etc).

Anyway, if anyone out there has owned both the d900f and p570wm, I would love to hear your thoughts.

 

@manymanyhaha I would wait for ivy E it will come out in like 3-4 months time and it'll be a lot cooler, and higher performance than 3930k. you'll see at least a 5-10C decrease in temperature at lower clock cycle which is a good thing and of course per clock cyle you get more anyway.

 

Thanks very much for this advice. I did not know.

 

A 100W core would be rated at 130W as intel does not have many standard TDP levels to play with so we don't know exactly how much power the chips will use yet.

 

Can the Bios for the 9570 be modded for unlocked Cpu?

 

Yes It can, Prema did it !

 

This model has a lot of issues regarding reaching even regular Full Turbo speeds, clocking RAM higher than 1600Mhz, the PCIe being limited to 1x speed, CPU OC not really working etc...my Mod fixes all of them, link is in my sig.

If you are scared of loosing your warranty >>> For example Stateside Mythlogic offers their P570WMx/Nyx 5713 directly with a "custom version" of the Prema Mod to all their customers and cover it under warranty.

 

Thanks Prema! Could you give me a link to Stateside Mythlogic. I googled it but came up empty. Edit: I found it, only thing there's no option for 3970x

 

You don't need the Xtreme CPU to overclock it to its thermal limits. A higher end one will default to a lower voltage (less heat) and still do 4.5ghz on all cores...

 

You think I can beat these scores with a 9570? Not bragging, just curious NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M18xR2 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M18xR2 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3940XM,Alienware M18xR2

I just really like the looks of the 9570, but if you can't OC a high end Cpu like a 3970X WTH?

 

Hey
Yea we sub in the 3970x's if we can't get 3960's

But if you want one (3970) just let us know its all the same price.

 

You don't need a super high cpu over clock when running a hexacore. You only need to sustain your same gpu score and a decent 4.0 or higher over clock...Maybe even as low as 3.8 ghz. And it will take over vantage and 3dmark11 due to physics. Alienware should never hold this title for both of these gpu benchmarks.

 

Agreed with John. My X7200 still outperforms the M18x 39xx CPU by a good margin in wPrime, and a few thousand in Vantage without a big overclock. With a mild Overclock (for the 980X) my system runs a 4.5sec wPrime 32M and a 135sec wPrime 1024M. It can also score an easy 33K in the Vantage CPU tests.

The newer model P570WM3 / Sager NP9570 should easily out perform my scores with no sweat.

I may grab a P570WM3 / Sager NP9570 when I get home instead of building a desktop. Just don't know yet.

 

I would wait and see what IVY-E is going to be like if you can.

 

power consumption FTW!!! (hope drop in temps as well)

 

Hello, I just got a Clevo P570WM ( XMG U702 SCHENKER ) with a i7 3820 cpu and i have the problem that turbo boost not work at all, always is at 3600 MHz.
I installed PREMA BIOS MOD, and turbo boost don't work even with this bios mod?
What can i do?
Can i replace the i7 3820 with a i7 3930K so overclocking finally works?
Thanks.

 

Make sure you have set Windows and Clevo control Center to Power mode, Turbo works on all CPUs that we have tested with the Mod.
Also keep in mind that 3.8Ghz is only the maximum one core Turbo of that CPU. 3.6Ghz is normal when using more cores... :hi2:

 

Thanks, it was a newbie error xd

Now i have the i7 3820 at 4.1 GHz.

Your bios is awesome!!! Keep the good work.

 

Ivy was a huge drop over sandy, hack out the GPU and apply the saving across more cores and it should be a nice boost

 

new ivy E 4960x is cooler than 3930k.. pretty amazing man, imagine 4930k would probably run even cooler too lol. cant wait for broadwell E =/

 

That's going to be 2015/2016.

Got haswell-e next year.

 

Hey,

So I just got my np9570 in the mail a couple days ago. I decided when I got it that I would go buy SSD's myself and put them in RAID 0 myself after getting the laptop since it was about $250 cheaper than getting them put in from Sager directly.

I've setup raid's for Windows 7 before in the bios, but it looks like setting up the RAID 0 for Windows 8 is a different beast, especially considering that Sager did not send me any Win8 recovery DVD's.

I believe what I need to do is the following:

1) Install and setup the SSD's in RAID 0 (need help with configuring the RAID in win8).
2) Use a cloning tool (probably installed on a flash or dvd) to clone the image from my 1 TB spinning drive to the 1 TB (2x 512 GB Samsung 840 drives). Any recommended tools to clone the disks?

Another option would be to try to create DVD recovery disks for windows 8 and re install a fresh copy on the SSD's once they are in RAID. It's a shame the laptop didn't come with recovery disks.

So then, my question is this: I now have the SSD's put into the 570WM. But when I went into the bios, it recognized that the drives where installed but it did not give me any options to put them in RAID 0 from the BIOS.

What is the best way to setup the raid 0 and get windows 8 transferred/installed over to it?

Much thanks!

 

Any idea when the successor to this system will come out? Trying to decide between keeping my X7200, and building a desktop, or selling the X7200, and picking up the successor. Can't wait to hear the specs, and hopefully any heat issues are sorted out. I'm want a beast desktop cpu, that Is can overclock.


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I tried your bios mod, but it seems to have messed up my RAID 0 drives. I can't seem to get them back into raid under your BIOS. I also realize I may need to reinstall windows fresh after reconfiguring the BIOS. Anyway, I sent you a PM and posted to your blog if you can take a look at it asap.

Cheers!

-Q

UPDATE: I was able to configure the RAID outside of the BIOS. I am attempting to install Windows 7 Pro on the machine now, since I don't have Win8 install discs.

 

If we use RAID and install any BIOS it will default to SATA, so first thing is going back to BIOS and setting it back to RAID.

Optional or in case it the volume isn't recognised any longer after accidentally booting without RAID mode: Press CTRl+I during boot will lead you to the RAID menu in case settings need to be changed.

 

Yep, I managed to figure that out. I set them back up into raid 0 with the same size and stripe size settings. But when i ran HD Tune I was only reading at about 450 MB/Sec, instead of 900+. Are there any additional settings I need to change/setup for Windows 7 perhaps?

Brandon

 

So I got everything going except my RAID 0 at the proper speeds.

But when I am monitoring the processor with the XTU utility, it is only going up to 3.5 GHZ while utilizing a single core. It is only at 60 degrees. I also set my windows profile to "High Performance". Do I need to increase the voltages to sustain the higher single core frequency? Am I missing a setting? The multiplyer for single core is at 3.8 ghz by default right now.

 

Did you update to the latest RAID driver, yet?

http://goo.gl/FhnbGa

Don't use XTU, it messes with the BIOS settings...use Throttlestop or HWinfo64 etc to monitor the CPU...the benchmark that is build into TS also allows you to bench single core..

 

I downloaded and extracted the file your linked to. It has two .bin files and one .ffs file. How do I use these to update the driver? Sorry! I've never used this type of file as a driver before. I tried googling and didn't find anything. Sorry for being such a noob!!

Good news though, so far the bios is working quite well.

Is there any program that I can use to actually set the clock on the CPU? I'd really, really like to get this baby up to 4.0 ghz for a single thread.

 

For OC supported cards the BIOS Mod has an OC tab:

"Performance Tuning" > CPU Configuration" > "Runtime Turbo Enable" > "Runtime Core Ratio Limit"

 

order P570WM

Configure
I7 3820 < Upgrad 3930K
SLI GTX 670MX< SLI 780M
2X4 DDR3
Crucial M4 128Go
Display 1920*1080 120Hz
2 psu 330W

 

I'll try that, but last time I went into the bios I'm pretty sure I couldn't actually set my clocks manually. [EDIT: I went back in, and was able to change the CPU limit. In actual performance, it was still clock only to 3.4 ghz. Anyway of getting around this and getting higher clocks?]

What about upgrading the raid 0 driver using the .bin files? Still not sure how to do that. Sorry if the question seems nooby.

 

What are your TDP settings?

 

It is the standard 130W, according to CPU-Z.

 

You could just be hitting your TDP limits then.

 

Please can anyone upload a P570WM 780M VBIOS?

 

Hi,

I'm going to buy this machine but I'm wondering.
Does it supports nvidia display surround with three screens (DVI, HDMi, DP) in SLI 780M configuration?

Thanks

 

You need to set CC (Control Center Software) to Power Mode otherwise the Turbo is disabled...

 

Hey guys, I may end up buying a Clevo P570WM3 / Sager NP9570. I started a link here. But since you all have the system, would you be able to offer some advice as per which reseller you went with and why? Any help would be really appreciated. Im also curious about the heat issues with the 3970X. Does the XOTIC PX Copper cooling upgrade actually help? Or wasted money? Has there been any progress on the heat issue?

"COPPER COOLING UPGRADE - Extra Cooling Copper Heatsinks Applied to the Heatsink/Heatpipes (XPC Service - requires shipment to XOTIC PC: will add to build time)"

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...9570-clevo-p570wm-system-advice-opinions.html

 

I would avoid the Xtreme CPUs as you can reach higher clocks with the likes of an 3930K as they have a lower voltage while running high OCs.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6827247

During beta testing the Xtreme CPU user returned their chips as the 3930K was able to sustain higher clocks...

Also Mythlogic ships this model with a custom version of my OC BIOS Mod covered by their warranty.

 

Man, that's a huge turn off.

Is there anyway to undervolt in the bios? Or drop the wattage on the CPU through XTU?

Also, anyone rocking an 8 core CPU in the system?

I may have to just wait till the next Gen and hope it doesn't have the same issues.

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AFAIK you can raise voltage with my BIOS but not lower it (at least it didn't work for my tester), so what I am saying is that while you can run a 3930K @ 4.5Ghz (with the Mod BIOS and on all cores) you can't do it on an Xtreme CPU for a prolonged time as the the higher voltage results in too much heat and throttling. This is at least the result from our beta tests during the dev work on the BIOS.

You won't see a replacement for this Notebook until much later next year (end). The current machine will mostly be able to run the new Ivy Bridge E:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7193/intel-ivy-bridgee-pricing-leaked

 

That's true. Just hope Clevo will continue to sell this model with some improved design after the x99 platform is announced) quad channel ddr4 memory, 2-x maxwell gpus and 8-core cpu is very hard to resist!

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I use a E5-2689 :hi2:




A little User test (without Mod BIOS)

# Test: GTX 680M (SLi) meets i7-3820 & i7-3960X & E5-2680 (+ i7-3970X Infos) 29.03.13

 

Thanks guys, great info. I do a lot of gaming, video encoding, benchmarking and of course folding at home. How do the 8 core CPUs run? same heat issues? 8 core would be great for folding@home and benchmakrking