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i forgot to mention. i'm using slv7 vbios modded latest version

my driver: 314.xx it is the latest but i am not sure if this is good or not.
i just read through the entire thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...de-workaround-max-clocks-oc-stability-44.html
unfortunately there are just 7 or 8 posts about the 680m.

the people in this thread recommends older driver than 314.xx

at the moment i can adjust more than 400 mhz with modded slv7 vbios.

i added 150mhz core clock speed to p0 state but it doesnt work out for starcraft 2.

shall i adjust p5 sate with nvidia inspector as well?

 

Here is my P570WM running ESXi 5.1.0 in Native.

 

Hi folks !

I'm new to the forum, as just discovered it when researching the new machine I'm about to buy with great excitement !!! I have no interest in overclocking (680M SLI + 3.5-ish GHz x6 will be plenty for my needs !), but do worry about temperatures (and subsequent fan noise to cool it) if getting a 150W processor in a machine built for <=130W.

I am in the UK and was about to buy a Clevo P570WM from PCSpecialist.co.uk (they call it "Omega Supreme" !) if can't source a better option, but would much rather buy a P570WM3 that comes fitted with an Intel Xeon X5 (2680 / 2687W ? - as the better Xeons are 8 core + higher cache + higher memory bus speed (3970 seems to be limited to 1600Mhz)) processor. PC Specialist don't seem to sell the 3D version, or do any processors better than the i7 Extreme 3970 or even >1600Mhz memory

I found a German site (mysn.co.uk) that I'd never heard of before but that ships to the UK and offer Xeon processor options (but no P570WM3 3D version or fast memory it seems)...

Hope you don't mind but I have some questions for you experts please :-

1) - Has anyone used mysn.co.uk before in the UK ? Any idea how good they are for UK exports ?

2) - Can I upgrade a P570WM to a P570WM3 myself after I buy it, using some kind of aftermarket 3D kit ?

3) - Does the P570WM3 come with a 120Hz 3D screen inbuilt already, or just 2D and the glasses show 3D via the IR transmitter that gets added to the P570WM3 models ? (and can the non-3D P570WM laptop still broadcast 3D to my TV ?!)

4) - Are there any other sites that sell this machine in the UK (or can ship from Europe) ?. I know Eurocom (who aren't meant to be very good and are very expensive) / ibuypower etc in the States could export here, but I'd be charged about £1000+ in customs charges on top of the laptop's price + I couldn't send it back if problems, so its not worth it.

5) - Are there any other sites that sell comparable-level machines in the UK ? (The closest I found was wired2fire.co.UK's Clevo 170EM kitted out (but only i7-3920 best processor) or Dell's Alienware M18x (but only i7-3940 best processor). Surely Clevo's gargantuan can't be the only X79 chipset laptop available to us ?!

6) - Do we need to use both power supplies plugged into the laptop at all times ? (or is that just for intensive gaming / video rendering etc and normally can run on just one of the PSU's ?). I read people in this thread talking about just one PSU being strained, but if I was transporting it for light internet / Office etc, 2 PSU's to carry would be a pain.

I love the idea of finally having a properly high-spec laptop and am happy to have it be so huge and weighty (as will only occasionally transport it), with all this potential, but the noisy fans do worry me as I like my movies / gaming / MMO FRAPS-ing / cubase / video editing / 3D rendering / home media server-ing etc uninterrupted (by a loudly whirring device cooling itself down constantly in the background) !

7) - Can I put it in another room and wirelessly send 3D A/V to the TV, while controlling it with wireless KB and mouse, without them having IR line-of-sight to the laptop somehow ? (ie: don't let Mac-owning friends hear how loud it really is ?!).

Thanks in advance for all your help. I plan on ordering this next week, but wish could get hold of Xeon + 3D version here in the UK. Seems a shame to buy a new pro laptop but with a slower i7 3970 Extreme processor rather than the best it can support ie: top-end Xeon EP ?! (Maybe the UK market is still way behind) ?

Any thoughts very much appreciated... ! Thanks.

 

New GTX 770M, GTX 780M and their SLI options just added

 

Did latest bench run. No A/C or extra additional cooling aids, just as i use it everyday!

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,Notebook P570WM score: P15405 3DMarks

 

Post not showed coz im a newb i think..

 

Clevorr very good runs, i don't think there's anyone with such high OC scores using Clevo laptop! What were your temps (CPU + GPU) under load and what were your clocks? tnx

 

Yeah that is some serious core speed going on there, I doubt that's suitable for gaming but very impressive none the less.

 

Yeah thanks guys! Those bench tests were run in normal ambient room temp as well, i could get a little more out of it if i ran in a cooler environment or with A/C but will wait till someone beats me before i do that.

Yes for those benches that was at 1108mhz core and 1135mhz memory and 4.3ghz CPU. Temps were around 75 -80 degrees C on GPU,s and mid 80,s for CPU at those clocks.. For gaming it would make little to no difference anyways but yes i run it a fair bit lower and game at 980mhz core and 1100mhz memory on the GPU,s and 4ghz CPU. Runs at those lower OC,s 24/7.

 

Is 1108mhz really your max VRAM clock?

 

What you mean ?? Its not "Vram" its "core clock speed" 1108mhz is what i ran in that bench and as high as i can go in normal everyday conditions. Could probably go 1120mhz core, and 1150mhz memory if i use A/C.. Why ?

 

Well it's just that most cards can at least go to 1200mhz up to 1300mhz.

 

Was wondering the same thing, since his gpu scores are all low.

 

Don't think so.. I AM currently no.1 baby!! And what is even better is that im not even one of those "bench" monkeys either, just a normal everyday user. lol

 

What they are saying is just that for such a high OC on the GPU-core the OC on the vRAM is quite low and they are wondering if you can't push the vRAM a bit more, that could bring your gpu scoe up to 18k...

 

With 1120mhz I would like to see some high load games like crysis 3 to test the load temps.

 

Now that was cute. He bragging about 1 record out of 20. nice!

 

Also 3dmark firestrike extreme is the place to test high end setups and it cares about memory bandwidth

 

To be honest...his system actually has some potential in a few places. For not being a "bencher"

 

Yeah sexy aint it ?? And my GPU score is NOT low, you ran ages ago at 1098mhz (similar to mine) and 1200mhz memory and scored 17313 GPU score which is just under mine so my scores are totally spot on and fine for what i am running. Around the same Core and you ran higher memory and about the same gpu scores so i dunno why you mentioned "His GPU scores are all low" as it doesn't make sense really. Its where it should be, not running the highest vbios and at 1108mhz core and lower 1130mhz memory my score is where it should be at.

And yep, i see Meaker and Prema. Yeah i have never run memory high and it wouldn't make a huge difference anyways. I am not on the highest vbios also as i said, there is still one with more voltage but i don't really wanna use it right now. If i did up the memory there would be no way i would get to the 18k GPU score, only way would be to run the 1100mv vbios and run GPU at around 1130-1140mhz core clock..

And these high clocks are NOT for gaming anyways, it is a waste of time and on top of that it would not be stable at those super high clocks in an intensive game, most people know this. I run games at 980mhz core and 1100mhz memory fine with good temps! Once someone does better score in bench test, i will try for more and all i would need probably is to turn the room A/C on, nothing crazy.

Its like what i have said in the past, you have these people like Mr fox and Johnksss here with super high clocks and GPU scores but if they are honest people, they will tell you they either use some sort of cooling aid OR have an Air con unit with the base of the laptop and intakes sitting right above the cold air to get the most out of it, Not an unopened machine sitting flat on a desk etc.. Unconventional is silly to me IMO. Yeah i can run these benches in a sub zero meat fridge and get a higher score but why ? People wanna see results in normal realistic conditions where they too can do it and run the same way to achieve those results. It gives a true show of what the machine can do. (bench wise at least) That is my opinion anyways!

Cheers!

 

Sounds like a challenge to me. Oh yeah, and drop the second power supply while your at it since that is exotic....
PS:
This would be a friendly contest. Not a name calling or brand specific trash talking display of systems. And we can use firestrike since it's the newest bench.

 

LOL Yeah i dunno why anyone would do "Name calling, brand specific, trash talking" That is a waste of energy and air. Its just bench testing machines and showing the results, pretty simple really. I have tested in real life conditions and shown the results and that's it, it is there for users to see. Plus, why are you mentioning "challenge" for ? Your Hardware is for sale.. ? lol One of the reasons why i don't want to be and dislike hardcore bench monkeys is that they abuse the crap out of there hardware and or even damage it and then put it up for sale to some poor normal user who thinks they are getting a bargain! Not implying that toward you by any means but it happens all the time and has on another forum to people i know and it peeves me off. But that is another subject and not on topic anyhow.

havn't even tried Firestrike yet as the free version is annoying as most are.. P.S The second power supply is NOT exotic, it is required because i have a 130w CPU. But yes, Firestrike sounds good, will get onto installing it and maybe getting a key so i have the options.. Busy atm with stuff and enjoying gaming etc.. Just out of curiosity Johnksss, what conditions do you run your bench tests in.. Antarctica ? lol

thanks you my dear!

 

Sorry, but the difference is I help people to understand hardware and what is capable of doing under normal or extreme conditions.
Also, I have 100 percent feed back as to everything i sale. Kind of why a/c's and cooling are in order. It's the people running around trying to push parts under normal conditions past hardware limits and causing said parts to fail. Some thing to remember.

Also, Charles didnt use a dual exotic power supply setup so im going to call that a false statement. The only reason you need dual is if your overclocking. Come on now, really.
You forget, you post are all over the internet right? Including techinfernal or did you forget?

Again, you seem fairly new to this so i wont hold you at fault there, but best to go find some dirt first before assuming im selling weak parts. My parts are still better than yours. I can do about 17.6 to 17.8k without any cooling what so ever..we already know you can't. Do I need to prove it? No...It's in the benchmarking thread for Alienware. For the naysayers about exotic this and that cooling this and that cooler this and that, my dear.

 

My dear Johnksss, didn't i say it wasn't toward you, come on now, do you feel the need to defend yourself when nothing was thrown at you ? Hmm. that is a little Suss.. All i said was it happens and it bugs me as iv seen it more than a few times, that is why i will never become one. Only brought it up because i seen you selling so it brought the topic of sales up. If i have abused something i will not sell it to anyone OR i will tell them that it has been stretched and pushed to its limits regularly which benchers do. Sorry to say but im not pushing anything to its limits, nowhere near it by choice, i still have a higher bios and all my temps are in safe operating range. Electrical parts can fail anytime unfortunately.

What about my "posts" all over the net ? Dear Sir, its on 2 forums out of millions, WOW! Thank you heaps for that great accurate information dear Johnksss, that was helpful.

Umm, are you talking about something you don't know about now ? I have gathered your info from posts you made regarding your scores so i know what you can and can't do. Now in regards to this "he did this and that" with the power bricks, every machine and its parts are very different. That is the first thing you learn about electronic components. For OC ? Yes, and who doesn't OC there 5k top end laptop huh ? Okay, so we both overclocking all areas and we both have the same power brick, and i use a 130w chip and you use a 55w chip and i need to run just one brick like you ?? P.S Once again, its not exotic, it is a optioned manufacturer clevo part and recommended when running a fully specd P570WM. Wow, all that makes a lot of sense.. Hey, i am really learning a lot from you man, thank you!

Dear Johnksss, funny how Mr Fox has power issues regarding not enough juice for the CPU and GPU overclock and admits to using an air con unit directly under the base of laptop and still is unable to hit 18k GPU. But you don't seem to have any power issues or any info about the conditions or cooling aids in your comments for your runs ?? Hmmm What is going on there my dear, is that illusion i sense ? That is interesting dear Sir. Since your here and super fast to make informative posts here, would you be able to help me in this matter please ?

Thank you so much

* I am sorry for posting some off topic this and that to the forum users and i will seize posts of this nature. I can acquire the info from Johnksss himself if need be. My issue is that he originally said " all my GPU scores are low" when he does not know what he is talking about but rather rushed into that comment uninformed. Johnksss has the highest recorded GPU score out there which is 18,030 gpu, and that is damn impressive!! thing is he is running cooling aids and 1130mhz core clock and 1175mhz memory with 1.1v vbios. I am NOT maxed out on memory just yet, and i have not tried the 1.1v vbios yet nor any additional cooling aids and so Johnksss says " I can do about 17.6 to 17.8k without any cooling what so ever..we already know you can't" That is also impressive to know what i can do when i haven't even tried it yet.. LOL

Peace out dear Brother Johnksss.

 

Cute reply...
Was thinking of wasting some time on that, but decided against it.

Using notepal cooling pad
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...benchmark-thread-part-2-a-63.html#post8991862

Another run with no a/c
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...benchmark-thread-part-2-a-63.html#post8992078

Power draw with single psu
http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...benchmark-thread-part-2-a-63.html#post8992102
This whole thing was to get you to see what your machine could do. Nothing more. It seemed like your's was the first machine that could actually put Clevo back on the map, but you ignorance blinds your rationality. Unlike others, I like Clevo machines, I just don't like Clevo's policy on them is all.

 

Beautiful. Thanks Johnksss!

 

Hi,

Do you install and support Ubuntu also on this machine ?

Also do you provide support in Australia

Thanks,

 

Hey Clevorr I will get this beast shortly with sli 780M, I might need your help if you're willing to, I want to OC

 

Who exactly are you pointing this question towards?

There are several Australian resellers.

Ubuntu is possible but requires a lot of rework around to make everything work flawless (which is virtually impossible anyways, but some things might work better). The good thing here is that nor Enduro or Optimus is valid in this machine.

 

Yeah no problem, i can get you onto the right modded bios that you will need to get started, as for the 780M,s a proper modded vbios isn't really developed yet but its no doubt in the works and coming.. 780M has had some issues with throttle and Temps when volted / played with unlike the 680M so for the time being the modded 680M,s are king!!!!

 

clevoor, chill dude. this machine cant go 4.5ghz period, even 4ghz it's having issue and I could run my AW system at 4.9 and break it to 5.0 without cooling aid other than default system fan, but it would only throttle, and pass WEI test half the time at 5.0. then again whats the point of having it to throttle which will just lower the score? desktop peeps uses water cooling and if thats allowed I dont see how its not allowed to have AC running under the machine. All these machines will throttle at high clock, except 4.5 I deemed it to be fine with my system.

look at the bright side though this machine could be amazing when they improve the heatsink/cooling and when ivy and haswell E comes out with better cooling.

ivy E is coming out end of this year and haswell E is coming next year, with 8 cores and 16 threads at 140w TDP which is amazing imo. currently sandy E 3930k is at 150w TDP and if haswell E could bring 8c/16t to 140, then broadwell E maybe see a 120w/130w only then OC to 4.0ghz seems realistic to me at acceptable temperature.

can't wait though, haswell E 8c/16t with DDR4 memory and possible thunderbolt and sata express. =)

 

Dunno what your talking about but mine runs fine at 4ghz 24/7 and games with good temps so that was kinda a waste of sentence / typing. I never said to anyone they can't use A/C i just said I DIDN'T is all. Using A/C to force cold air into the intakes is nothing crazy and a good idea tbh. I was only responding to the "his gpu scores are all low" remark and trying to make clear that i have not tried that cooling method yet and you cannot really compare aided cooling with non aided cooling results anyhow..

thanks, :hi2:

 

And they still are low.

 

you dont have to get mad man. unlike you I dont just run my machine with games so cpu usage really goes up there. not as intensive as a xtu test but similar when I encode video and it does get quite hot. have you tried 4ghz with XTU for 30 mins and see how that goes? and btw how loud is the fan when goes full speed?

 

lool Oh dear, johnksss, go sell some abused dodgy parts to some poor unaware person will you instead of Trying to annoy me here you second best nugget!

Im not mad, i have better things to do than get angry about random people saying there opinion on a website forum.. lol Temps are fine no matter what i run. Fans at 100% are not real loud, less noise than both the old clevo X7200 and Alienware IMO, as iv had all of them.

 

ok then i'll save up my money and jump ship when haswell E with 16 threads goes into this laptop, if clevo ever make one next year with haswell CPU. add sata express and ddr4 with that too.

does the laptop have voltage flex and current control? or you are forced to use xtu with it? cause from what I know there are no fan control, and a pretty locked down bios from clevo. I'd prefer to not have to press button to manually turn fan to full throttle everytime and would like to adjust it with hwinfo64.

btw how is it yours dont overheat where others gets to 90c with just 4ghz? what is it different from you and others with same hardware?

 

I have made BIOS Mod for this model with lot of stuff fixed

Just check the second spoiler for changelog and preview.

 

Interesting.....

Looks like the World record holder is back in town once again
Sitting on desk, No ac needed.
View attachment 98271

 

Yeah, haswell-e 8-core + maxwell sli is a dream laptop. Put some high res display in here and enjoy)

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

 

rofl still want the dual screen thunderbolt 6 hdd slot etc etc, would never wanna backdown for less. Haswell E looks amazing but its also a sign of intel really slowing down. may as well get it before CPU starts to die off in increasing performance and then wait couple more years for skymont 10nm.

maxwell sli sounds good to me.

 

Just recently built mine up and am using it as a mobile workstation. Has anyone any experience with a bag/case for this thing....i.e. taking it on a plane.

It's way to big for a brief case.

Thanks

 

@ clevoor

ahh I just went back a few posts and saw your CPU temp for 4.3ghz, mid 80s just for a GPU bench.. I thought you were saying under full stress load -_-. at 4.5ghz my AW with cooling pad in XTU reaches as high as 91C in less than 15 minutes so naw this isn't something I'd want.. need an Ivy-E, or better heatsink. i dont overclock GPUs much, even for games and I'd only OC CPU to the extreme end just to have everything run smoother at a stable temperature.

 

Good sir, my laptop is coming today. I want the best performance I can achieve without risking to much (I know OC is always a risk). Even if I can get a 5% performance safely, I would go with that

 

If you have a GTX780M in there you need to wait for the next version of my BIOS Mod, which is in beta testing right now...

 

Thanks for the reply! I will wait, I am not in rush.

 

SLAPPA Laptop Backpack M.A.S.K. its a expensive bag but trust me it fits everything peerfectly I bought that bag and been extreemly happy with it the laptop actually fits in the laptop compartment and there is alot of extra room if you have dual power suppies and what have you i travel alot and this covers all my needs

 

Has anyone with nvidia 680m in SLI considered upgrading to the 780m in sli? Does anyone think the upgrade would be worth the money for the extra performance? Bare in mind I do not over clock my equipment.

 

if you dont overclock, why not just get 580m sli instead? or 260m sli? getting higher graphics card for better performance, so you should OC. cooling is better than you think.

 

hi guys want to ask the owners can you oc 3930k in your laptop? if so whats the max oc to take full advantage of gtx 780m sli max oced?

 

The ocing is pretty non existant due to the heat, will likely have to wait for ivy-e for that. The 375sm is a better gaming setup.