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    *** Official Clevo P570WM | P570WM3 / Sager NP9570 Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jclausius, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The way the shell is designed external fans wont help.
     
  2. ole!!!

    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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    shouldnt it be chipset limitation? if x79 allows ivybridge CPU in it, then it should work.


    they need to open up more vent space on the bottom, but overall the fan is just too tiny in radius. clevo, up this to an 18 inch, increase fan size and heatsink size, then we're talking about serious overclocking on this beast.
     
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    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    I meant if clevo ever allow a good oc'ing bios
     
  4. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Guys I've just checked the fan behaviour of this laptop and its Terrible. During linx stress test sometimes both CPU fans come on, most of the time the centre CPU fans stays off! Even when temps are in their 70's!!! While the other fan tries to do all the cooling! Fix this please clevo, is this why we're experiencing such bad CPU temps?
     
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    Any new news over here or is it still the same. (Clevo not budging and a well hacked version does not exists yet?)
     
  6. mawfia

    mawfia Newbie

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    I recently received my P570WM and I would like to buy a sleeve for it. Does anyone know of a sleeve preferably without handles that can fit this laptop?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  7. muol

    muol Notebook Enthusiast

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    That's like finding a neoprene suit for the marshmallow man, I'm afraid.
     
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    It's not a bad question.. the problem of course is the thickness of this unit... I doubt that anyone has one that's ready to go. Perhaps, you could find the material at a Jo-Anne fabrics place and get someone to make it for you. This may be what I do for mine as it was just shipped out today so I hope to get it by Wednesday of next week. And, just so you know Mythlogic Rocks!

    Hmm.. if the one I make turns out ok.. maybe I'll go into a side business making and selling them.. :D
     
  9. Yuval83

    Yuval83 Newbie

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    Did you look at what slappa makes? I just purchased a new book bag for my 570 and its AMAZING seriously the best book bag I've ever owned. I did notice sleeves on their site so check it out
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

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    XTU support is fine on the CPU side, and GPU modding is always up to the community, it's mostly the cooling that needs to be up to the task.
     
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    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Unfortunately, nothing in those changelogs suggest anything related to fans / xtu interoperability.
     
  13. Siege1989

    Siege1989 Notebook Enthusiast

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    is your p570wm vga also running on PCI-e 1.1 instead of 3.0?
    have a look at GPU-Z please.
     
  14. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Yep I see nothing new in the BIOS at all. Even Turbo doesn't work on my 3930k. Stuck at 3.2ghz whether using one core or all 6. Pants
     
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    qreffie Newbie

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    Just got it in the mail yesterday and I shot a quick unboxing video and a first impressions video. I haven't had that much time to play with it and I'm still downloading a bunch of Steam games to it so it'll probably be a couple days before I have my actual review of the product. I have had some issues with it losing connection to my wifi but I haven't had time to troubleshoot it properly to see if it's my router or the laptop itself. My specs are below. I'll edit this post with a link to my review when I've got it up.

    Unboxing

    First Impressions

    Specs:
    Sager NP9570 // i7 3820 3.6-3.8 GHz // 2 GTX 680M SLi // 16GB Ram DDR3 1600 MHz // 2 120GB Intel 520 Series SSD Raid 0 // Copper Cooling upgrade // extra AC adapter and converter box
     
  16. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Very nice qreffie. Thanks for posting this.

    Please, open your baby up and take a pic of that copper cooling upgrade. There's aren't many places to put those extra heatsinks. And please tell us what your temps are like in various applications
     
  17. ebus5

    ebus5 Notebook Guru

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    Here I go, I'm just put my order for my fourth Clevo laptop...

    New Laptop mySN Xirios W712 (Clevo P570WM) : Intel E5-1650 (6c/12t @3.2-3.8Ghz), 32GB, GTX 680M 4096MB (1344 Cuda Cores), Storage : 2x Samsung 840 Pro 512GB & 2x Seagate 1TB SSHD
    Current Laptop Sager 8170 (Clevo P170HM) : Intel i7-2820QM (4c/8t @2.3-3.1Ghz), 32GB, GTX 470M 1536MB (288 Cuda Cores), Storage: Intel 510/120GB & 2x Seagate 750GB/7200
    Previous Laptop Sager 9262 (Clevo D901C): Intel Q9550 (4c @2.83Ghz), 8192MB, Vertex2 50GB, 2x500GB, Quadro FX 3700M running VMware ESXi 5.0 natively.
    Previous Laptop Sager 9750 (Clevo D900K): AMD Athlon X2 4800+ (2c @2.4Ghz), 2048MB, 2x320GB, GeForce Go 7800GTX
     
  18. ole!!!

    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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    when will haswell E come out and clevo make that CPU fit lol can't wait for that one
     
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    nemecizer Notebook Enthusiast

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    So I got my P570WM3 from Myth last week and ... wow. I love this machine! However, to save cost I only got one graphics card (a GTX 680M), figuring I would transfer the GTX 680M from my P150EM to the P570WM3. I've spoken to Myth about buying a heatsink and fan, as well as an SLI cable, but the salesman mentioned I would have to flash the VBIOS of the 680M coming out of the P150EM. So I wanted to ask the experts on this forum if the following is the right approach:

    1) Use GPU-Z to copy the VBIOS of the card current in my P570WM3.
    2) Install the 680M from my P150EM, set everything up, repaste the chips, etc.
    3) Use NVFLASH to flash the VBIOS of the transferred 680M
    4) Profit

    Is this largely correct?
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

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    You forgot the part you should do every time which is backup the original bios ;)
     
  21. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Clevo finally have a BIOS out with something new in it. Sheesh.

    Beta BIOS 1.02.08RTR lets u turn on and off hyperthreading and Turbo. We just need vcore control and I'll be happy. We need to be able to undervolt CPU to help temps!

    Downloadable from the link I posted above. Maybe this BIOS can be modded as it not as sparse and locked down it seems? Prema what do u think?
     
  22. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    We can think about a mod once their base works. ;)
    Turbo was always enabled in BIOS, but Clevo has it overwritten via the ACPI. So even if its enabled in BIOS they simply disable it in certain power conditions and if you have it disabled in BIOS the ACPI stuff can overwrite it the same way and still Turbo.
    It seams as if their left hand doesn't know what their right hand is doing...
     
  23. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    Yep, their BIOS stinks. Im starting to think stock CPU is all we'll be getting. If I had known I would have just bought 680m's for my x7200. Now there is a machine with a nice oc bios
     
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    What BIOS are you using? My x7200 (not the sager version) is still running the stock BIOS. Do you also have a link for the BIOS download?

    TIA
     
  26. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    I'll check a bit later when I'm home. But it a nice BIOS due to having some form of control in xtu, like vcore, and other useful settings. Unlike the p570wm which is crippled in the CPU side settings wise and crippled on the gpu side with its meager pcie-e 1.1. Give us pcie-e 2.0 god damn it!

    I was able to get my 6 core w3680 to 4ghz on all cores while undervolting simultaneously. Those zeons were great. No troubles ever with Turbo like this machine

    I'll admit that the sandy bridges are hotter and it seems this is why they felt they had to hold back performance

    Clevo have just got to remedy this in future bioses! If the p570wm can handle it that is, which it doesn't seem like it can. I'm slowly accepting this and if it wasn't for Ivy bridge Extreme I'd be, pissed. 22nm should give us some oc goodness and cooler temps. ...I hope. That's if Intel ever release the damn thing. Gulp!
     
  27. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    I have one of these monsters to review courtesy of AVA Direct.

    17" 1080p
    Windows 7
    Intel Core i7-3960X
    32GB RAM
    Dual GTX 680M 4GB graphics
    Intel 240GB SSD + Seagate 750GB HDD
    Killer wireless card

    It came with two 330W PSU's.

    I've reviewed the big Clevo's in the past, like the D900 series, but this one with the two power supplies is just ridiculous. Makes my laptop seem as powerful as a cell phone ...
     
  28. Charles P. Jefferies

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    How about those scores!
     

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    Zymphad Zymphad

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    I would never trade your DreamColor 2 for anything from Clevo, especially for something that has two PSUs... I can't think of any notebook that is built better, sexier and with such a gorgeous screen...

    10,000 not impressive since I can get over 7000 on my machine and I can't overclock it much. I know, freak overclocking on that monstrosity, you'll get freak scores too.

    Anyway, I'll take your gorgeous cell phone EliteBook over this monstrosity in a heart beat. If for some reason Ava decided you can keep it and you want to hold a NBR giveaway of your Elitebook, consider me first in line, rofl :p
     
  30. Charles P. Jefferies

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    I can appreciate the P570WM from certain perspectives but it isn't my style. Power is only part of the equation.

    Sorry to disappoint but I have no plans of giving up the 8740w anytime soon. ;) The DreamColor 2 screen is so far unrivaled (Macbook Pro Retina, &c, still not a match for the accuracy). This EliteBook has proven to be one of the very few notebooks to get near everything 'correct'; it's superior in nearly all aspects to notebooks I've reviewed and owned in the past (save for its 2 1/2 hr battery life). I have no idea what I'll replace it with.
     
  31. Tirenz

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    They are nice, more or less similiar to the ones from HTWingNuts Review. Though the physx score in the 3DMark11 is very high (due to the new CPU), the graphics score is a little bit low compared to the ones I´ve seen from P370em and my own X7200 with GTX 680m in SLI.
    I think for gamers the P370em is better at this point than the P570WM, only the cooling seems to be better with the P570WM.
     
  32. jclausius

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    lawtq,

    Just tried to PM you about this, but am getting an error message your inbox is too full to send a PM.
     
  33. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    OK let me check
     
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    Good morning all! Pleased to say that I've placed my order for a P570WM from Xotic:

    Display 17.3" Sager FHD 16:9 120Hz "MatteType" 72% NTSC Color Gamut (1920x1080) - [ETA: 4/2] (SKU - S1S556)
    Processor Intel® Core™ i7-3930K, 3.2-3.8GHz (32nm, 12MB L3 smart cache - 6 cores / 12 threads) (SKU - S2N123)
    Graphics Video Card nVidia GeForce GTX 670MX 3,072MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology [User Upgradeable] (SKU – S3R517)
    Ram 32GB - DDR3 1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS) (Windows 7 Pro OS Required) (SKU - S4Q844P)
    Primary Hard Drive 750GB 7200RPM [Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache] - Default (SKU - S5T306)
    Operating System ~Windows 8 - 64-Bit (64-Bit CD Included) + MS Office 2013 Trial

    This machine will be used for Cubase and as a slave for my 3930k desk. Decided to be (slightly :D) frugal and put in an SSD myself.

    Question: has anyone attempted to go hackintosh (Chameleon, etc) on this platform?
    I think that would make this one of the most versatile boxes available to consumers right now. Makes this look funny(er).
     
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    Well they do do the pro line with the X79 so it is not impossible at first glance.
     
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    Hi guys, new to this one . I now have this beast of a laptop and by the looks of it people are getting XTU to work but mine after reboot says " error cannot apply these settings" Is another bios needed in order for XTU to work properly, is that what is going on or ?? Any help would be appreciated!

    I am an old X7200 fan so i bought this and i am pretty happy with it. Performs well but could do heaps more if it wasn't so locked up and restricted.. :(
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6427649

    Pushed a little more but i need to get some faster ram.
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6442858

    Thanks,
     
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    Dunno where my post went.. :S
     
  38. lawtq

    lawtq Notebook Evangelist

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    How'd u get such a high score? Even at 1006/2400 on my 680m sli I can only get 13600. Very nice. Seems like you're using old drivers too.
     
  39. Clevorr

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    I dunno, i have gotten even higher before but this still isn't bad for a laptop using custom ov bios and no mods or extra cooling, just as it sits everyday on my desk. Temps are so good on this machine for everything, i game at 980mhz 24/7. Umm, yeah i found these drivers to be fairly good overall but i did test with the newest 314.22 version and the score was only like 50 marks less which is nothing really.. Now its time to try OC the CPU.. ;)
     
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    He will likely get a larger CPU score along with dual PCI-E gen 3.0 allowing the cards to scale better.
     
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    is it possible to overclock the 680m yet? i tried a custom vbios but it just unlocked nvidia inspector (ram speed) but it was not possible to change the clockspeed of the video card
     
  42. Support.3@XOTIC PC

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    Have you tried to with MSI Afterburner?
     
  43. Siege1989

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    no i havent is it like inspector? or is it an application to modify the vcard?
     
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    Its a program made to adjust clock speeds. Give it a shot if you havent, its probably the most popular overclocking program.
     
  45. Meaker@Sager

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    MSI afterburner is in a family of tools writen by the person who wrote rivatuner the original nvidia overclocking program basically, he now gets paid to support them.
     
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    first of all thx for the suggestion. i hat a lot of time to test this application.

    msi afterburner worsk for me just a little better. it is possible to adjust the clock speed and the memory speed but in the end it is just the memory speed which works for me.

    when i play any games, there is no changes at all (GPU-Z sensor tab) but when I run the stresstest of MSI afterburner, it shows me the changed clockspeed.
    why is this so (only in stresstest mode) and why does my second video card doesnt copy the increased clockspeed settings?
     
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    Did you select the option to synchronise both GPUs in the settings of msi afterburner?
     
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    Sorry for my delayed reply.

    Yes i selected the option to synchronise both GPUs in the settings.
     
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    The latest bios files have caused issues with programs. Try looking into the nv inspector command line.
     
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    today I'll try settings for disabled boost of the geforce 680m

    i want to overclock my 2 SLI video card for starcraft 2 so bad.
     
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