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Flashing the bios incurs a performance boost due to pci-e gen 1 to 2.

Other than that it involves vbios mods and overclocking. Everything has some form of risk associated to it.

 

I see, I assumed as much. Thanks.
That being said, I'm sure that some are (relatively) low risk and highly recommended right?
Which would be recommended for this machine?

 

Prema system bios and SVL7 vbios, those combined with some tweaking get you a long way. I recommend a repad and repaste if you want to OC the GPUs much at all and put the CPU at 4ghz or more.

 

I found Prema's Mod, but I can't find SVL7 vbios for this laptop (Clevo P570WM) with GTX 880M.
Have there been any release for that one?

 

umm that seems kinda pointless, going for a quad core desktop cpu when mobile cpu is already quad core.

 

May be pointless but it seems to exist.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2701658

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since desktop quads have more performance as they dont care about efficiency as much as mobile quads. I don't see how that's pointless. When its released, it'll be the highest performing laptop in the market.

 

same generation architecture, desktop intel cpu and laptop are the same performance. only difference is overclocking turbo boost and voltage usage. desktop CPU generally have better voltage regulation and larger surface area that will be the only advantage to a desktop quad, oh right and z97 chipset maybe thats about it, and cheaper cost.

aside from all of that, its a joke and they should have gone for x99. i wouldnt mind dropping a few grand on it had they did x99 with hexa/octa core with dual screen.


only GOOD reason I can think of is, they can get similar mobile quad performance with OC with a tiny bit lower temp at much lower cost to win mass market, also x99 and E series CPU usually comes really late, for example x99 and haswell E came out just last month however broadwell about to get released in 3-4 month, so they go for desktop and also don't have to worry about lagging behind CPU generation as well as ddr4, can just use ddr3.

 

for starters desktop quads have extra 2 mb cache, At stock desktop quads are atleast 15% faster


and all of this cheaper cost.like you said,,

dont get me wrong, id love x99 based laptop. but i dont see it happening anytime soon. next highest performing cpus are z97 quads

 

One problem is the lid on the GPU reducing thermal performance. The 48xx and 49xx both have the same cache as the desktop CPUs.

Of course this all depends on the cooling/power circuitry. A 4770K would do well in a P570WM type setup but it would be hard to justify the size over mobile models that offer all the same features.

 

Mobile extreme chips tend to binned for higher performance at lower voltage though, don't they? I don't see any benefit to putting a 4790S in a laptop other than it being cheaper. The 4940MX makes more sense on every other front.

http://ark.intel.com/m/compare/80808,78940

4790k would make sense because it has a base 4GHz clock but the 4790S is only 3.2GHz.

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Cost I guess? 4940MX is $1000 while 4790K is only $350 or even less.

Or as I realized earlier, if you must have an unlocked quad core for cheap and don't care about mobility, P570WM + 4820K wll save you a couple hundred bucks. But then might as well get a desktop in that case.

 

as i pointed out many things, desktop chip isnt faster than mobile chip, at least not by 1-2% the extra cache mb isn't going to help out all that much lol. again only reason they would do it is for better cooling, possibly to achieve higher OC as well as much cheaper cost to compete against MX editions.

@ghegde.. just look at your picture again lol thats not even a fair comparison, different clocks to begin with LOL.

 

I remember I posted something about my CPU fan and its image and the part number. I cannot find it here anymore.
I don't have the photo in my laptop and I don't feel like taking out the fan today. can anyone tell me what is the CPU fan (the bigger one) part number? thanks.

 

this is gonna be tough, clevo parts are difficult to find.

 

For parts check with Mythlogic, they where able to source a lot of spares for me...

 

Your original reseller should be able to source parts

 

RJTech is also a great source for parts.

 

what a disappointment NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M - NotebookCheck.net Tech
no increase in cuda core, make sense but nontheless sucks.

 

prema/svl7 gonna do vbios mod for 900m?
make this machine work with 900m

 

Hello everybody!

A few weeks ago I posted a question about thinking of buying the clevo p570wm in Germany... well i bought it!! and I just got it today, it and impressive massive machine! (literally massive) but well i couldn´t buy from the place i wanted which was really trusted and had great reviews because they didn´t accept the only payment option i had. So i bought it from another store XMX.de. Which is was cheaper and i could afford not only double GPU but a 3 year warranty...
and as i received the machine everything was going great... until i checked the system profile with CPU-Z... and realized that i have 2x AMD HD8970M instead of the 2x AMD r9 m290x that were advertised...

So yeah is kind of my fault for going with a not so trusted shop (sigh...) but before i start the battle to get what i paid for. I wanted to ask you experts if you would think that it would be too bad staying with these graphics cards in the end... i haven´t found much information online about the differences between both other than the fact that the r9 is newer... sadly I can not afford an nvidia setup, maybe in the future... I use it now mainly for architectural visualizations, cad and post production. Could the r9 get better updates, drivers in the future that the HD would not get?

I know most of you have optimum setups already mainly with Nvidia cards, but you might be able to give me a tipp...

Thank you very much

 

Just update your BIOS (in my signature) and they will show as M290X, it's the same card really, they where just renamed in later BIOS.

 

Yes it's just a direct rebrand so lots of programs struggle to tell the difference even now.

 

I would not expect any modded 900 series anything for the time being, but on the other hand...The desktop version works right out of the box and is able to run at 1550/2000 (boost). (And like 1500/2000 (boost) without even touching the voltage) Well the 3 cards I have are. so they should be able to set the power correctly for these cards. The new maxwell series can adjust it's own voltage. All the way up to it's max. Not like before where you were locked out at lower voltages and had to add voltage every few steps up when over clocking. If so, then all that would need to be set right is the power table.

I almost grabbed a clevo but will wait for the new updated model to hit spring of next year. If I havent did something else at that time.

 

I'm looking forward to seeing how it behaves under different clocks/temperatures. Who knows repasting and padding could increase performance from lowering temperatures.

 

Hey guys, one question, considering this is the version of my BIOS, do I need the latest Prema BIOS?

 

That's latest officially released stock BIOS, if you want more options you have to use the Mod...

 

To be honest, I'm fairly ignorant about the BIOS set-up and even more so about what changes to make there in order to get more power from my machine.
Taking that into consideration, would I gain anything just from installing the mod?

 

By just using the Mod the GPU PCIe would no longer be limited to 1x for example...

 

Ah, that's great. So, there will be upgrades by just installing it.
I'll do it right away.

Thanks a lot Prema!

 

Hello again! Well its now clear to me that i will be spending a lot on this forum! Which I dont mind. Happy to learn from you. but sorry for my dumb beginner questions...

Frist thanks to Prema for the Bios Update tip on finding the r9 m290x name instead of the HD8970m, as i got in the stock bios i saw there that it recognized the card as r9 so i wont try and update the Bios just yet.

Now as to my next question... I finished installing the things I need and i have the system and my main program (3dsmax) in the SSD which is now half full, and thought of having the rest of the productivity software in the HDD (Adobe suite cc, autocad...). Now when i open the programs, i can hear a seriously loud clicking sound every 30 seconds or so... In autocad it even stops everything for half a second! Obviously i dont hear or see any issues from the SSD while using the software on it.

Could this be normal? Maybe the sound is a bit louder because of the size of the case, or because there is the hollow space of the 3rd drive?
If not could it lie on the configuration, or is it definitely a hardware problem?

And is it normal that the fans rev up again every forty seconds or so even when not being used a lot?

Cheers!

 

It may be due to the advanced power settings on your hdd making the hard drive sleep after a short idle period.

 

Are there any tips to improve the audio? It's not bad, but sometimes it sounds odd and at times, it's sometimes not loud enough.
There are few other issues, for example, when I watch certain shows, the sound of the voices comes from the sub-woofer and that makes it hard for me to listen to it.

 

Get an external DAC/Amp like rhetoric NuForce uDAC2. It helps a lot! And a food set of headphones. If you want to use the laptop speakers I'm not really sure.

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Make sure when using the internal speakers you are set to 5.1 in the audio panel.

 

I use Foobar to for musics, it has some option to enable subwoofer channel in 5.1 speakers, and for movies I use AC3Filter with this configuration:

 

something silly happening here, I cannot open page 152, whenever I click on it or write down in addressbar it opens 151 instead
I'm sure someone answered my question about fans

 

seems my firefox got crazy. for the first time IE helped me out

by the way, thanks for replies. I could find the fan here but they don't ship to malaysia.

I think I'm a little far from technology, normally being close to china was a great help, but they don't produce this kind of thing.

 

But wouldn't then the clicking stop after the first time? I read that maybe a connection might be loose, im going to try and see if i can recognize something. Will be my first time opening the body... just hope i don't have to send it directly back...

 

What's the price range of a barebone p570wm3?

 

They are going end of line now so you will struggle to find one.

 

Is the only difference between p570wm3 and a p570wm the built-in 3D emitter or are there more differences?

I'm guessing they are about to release an updated version?

 

The screen and cable connector for it are also different. There is no word on a replacement.

 

I've got one last question about flashing the BIOS with Prema's mod.
I just got my laptop, so I don't really want to alter the settings. Is there any way to flash the BIOS with Prema's mod whilst keeping the settings?
Or should I go all over the settings and write them down, in order to put things back the way they were after flashing the BIOS?
How do you access the BIOS settings in this laptop? By pressing Del repeatedly? Or is it with F7 repeatedly?

The Prema Mod ReadMe says something about disabling UEPI. I tried looking up what that is, but I'm still not sure what it is, or even less if I've got it activated or not.

 

I would think it would be far easier to take out your cellphone and snap pictures. Then email them to yourself if need be or just scroll the phone.
And always flash from factory settings and one reboot.

 

Thanks
Do you guys know if there have been any updates for the drivers of the Bluetooth adapter for Windows 7?
I'm checking the manufacturer's website and the last driver update was in Dec 2013, yet in some other websites, there seem to be newer versions.

 

The bluetooth adapter is built into the wireless card, which one do you have?

 

Manufacturer supplied drivers will often time be older versions than the most recently released as they find a stable version to make work with the machine and stick with it as verified. The manufacturer of that individual piece of hardware, wireless card in your example, may release updates to patch issues with the card as they're developed. Machine manufacturers don't tend to test and reverify for every version released though. Only if a serious problem is found with the drivers being offered.

 

Qualcomm Atheros AR3012 Bluetooth 4.0 + HS

I see. I'm currently having an issue connecting one device. So, I was wondering if there were any driver updates.

 

which version of windows do you use? I've had some difficulties with windows 8.1 x64 and Intel wireless-ac 7260, Bluetooth 4.0 + HS. I couldn't use my Bluetooth mouse and in every restart there was a chance that Bluetooth adapter turns to unidentified device. however after some windows and driver update problem solved.