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can still carry s9t lol, it even got battery pack, handle, sound system and shock absorbing rubber, it could be used for mobile, just takes longer to pack and 4x more heavy than alienware. AW18 with broadwell CPU would destroy ivy E in most applications that uses single core/thread.

 

You can carry it but not in a backpack. (not that i think it's a bad machine)
when Clevo's x99 will come out (hopefully) it will destroy the AW18 in any aspect.

 

from that email reply, it could go both way. they don't speak perfect english so their choice for words aren't the best. from the way Jenny put it, sounds to me there isn't anything going on this year is what they are trying to say. really could be 50/50.

 

I live in this region, they talk like this. you cannot understand what are they talking about Normally they don't give straight answer at all.

All I can say is they don't know what happened, someone in the company announced P570 discontinued, now they're searching for the person in charge

 

this is why I just built a 4930K desktop lol (well technically it's still a test bench since I've yet to buy a case)

 

Your clocks are not much above mine though

 

a cherry cpu would make computer fly, with pcie ssd in raid 0

 

Chip's a dud, and now it's degraded (I think?( Let's hope Intel pulls through on this one

Or maybe the board did something funny to it. Should've flashed the BIOS before doing anything but it was only one version behind the most recent release :/

 

Well best of luck

 

Actually it was the IMC that degraded. This chip refuses to POST with 2133 ram even with 1.15V Vccssa now LOL what a joke bah. >_< (the Corsair sticks are rated for 2400 and I never dumped more than 1.65V to the sticks so I don't think it's the actual sticks, although I should probably test ram itself I guess)

Doesn't matter, ram at 1866 boots just fine with Vccsa @ 1.05V. My previous 4.5GHz OC @ 1.328V is now stable again. Feel like I should just run it like this until the chip quits and then replace it, because there's no guarantee the replacement would be any better. Still this just completely sucks. :/

 

Ouch, that's really odd, I'm running 2133mhz cl10 on the stock notebook voltages.

 

I may have spoken too soon. 4.5GHz now needs 1.372V to be stable...

Either I got a really bad chip, or there's something very wrong with the mobo. I actually think I should hold off on sending this chip in just to see if there will be any further degradation in the coming weeks. From what I've read even 24/7 load at 1.4V takes months to degrade a chip, so something is really screwy here. =(

 

What motherboard have you got?

 

Asus X79-Deluxe

One of the stickers (USB 2.0 starts here) had the arrow pointing in the wrong direction. Didn't think too much of it but really doesn't say too much about the QC.

 

Bit OT but might as well:

Spent the entire weekend tweaking and was finally able to pin it down to 2 things:

-potentially dodgy ram I started with
-weak IMC as well as weak uncore/cache

I should've realized something was wrong when I went up almost 70mV in Vcore and Prime95 still BSOD'd within minutes. (only pushing 4.5GHz, so nothing crazy) Turns out bumping Vtt from 1.05V to 1.12V greatly improved stability, and it took almost an hour for the BSOD to happen. Then upped Vccsa from 1.05V to 1.12V and Prime95 would now only give errors instead of throwing blue screens. Then it was just tweaking the Vcore until I could go for a full hour without any errors.

Bumped ram from 1866 CL9 to 2133 CL10, and thankfully no blue screens, but Prime95 quickly errored out in half the threads within minutes. Upping Vtt and Vccsa a notch stabilized most of these errors, and I'd only get one error after about 30 minutes. I know it's not a Vtt or Vccsa issue because I've already ramped both up several notches and it still doesn't fix that Prime95 error. So now tweaking Vcore until the error goes away. Let's just hope I can find a game stable 4.5GHz 2133 ram setting...

EDIT: Yup the IMC and uncore is total garbage. Futzed around with Vtt, Vccsa, and even DRAM voltage but it flat out refused to stabilize at 2133. Then when I dialed it back to 1866, I had to up Vtt and Vccsa to get it stable. Prime95 still BSOD'd after 75 minutes but I need my sleep. All I want is a game stable 4.5GHz overclock is that too much to ask for? But that's it, I'm just going to keep upping the volts to hold a -stable 4.5GHz OC until the chip just quits entirely, then send it in for a replacement. I refuse to settle for less than 4.5GHz period.

All the b!tchin aside, I will say I've learned a lot, and if I'd just gotten an above average sample I probably wouldn't have learned much or anything.

 

Does anyone have the modded inf for drivers 327.23 that are willing to upload or pm me? I have been trying to mod the drivers for about a week and i cant get it to work at all. Was expecting much better gameplay coming from a NP7280, but these 880M's just overall suck in gameplay so if those drivers will get me better performance i am willing to try them at this point. Thanks in advance.

 

What are the clocks doing? Have you tried tuning the power levels yet?

 

Hey guys sorry I haven't been able to reply to some of the things I said I would. I'll get to that as soon as possible, work has been pretty crazy lately.

I found some time to do some benchmarking with 3dmark 11. My 4820k is only getting 10k physics score @ 4.2ghz. Something definitely isn't right here. I have hyper threading enabled. What can I do to help this? Could it be the cpu itself? It seems most 4820k's get 11.5k @ 3.7ghz.. Any help will be greatly appreciated, I can post pictures of my bios settings if needed, just let me know.

Thanks

 

Basically when gaming (for example Diablo 3) while i am fighting elite packs with loads of monsters on the screen the clocks drop from 950's to the 700's to the 400's
and the frame rate goes to utter garbage and gameplay begins to lag until the screen is cleared of enemies, only to drop frame rate and lag again at the next screen full of content. i have used afterburner and nvidia inspector with little to no success in improving gameplay by adjusting voltages and clock speeeds. On the other hand i take my NP7280 with 680M's and the game runs flawlessly even on the new drivers. I have bounced between windows 8.1 back to 7 and back on windows 8.1 and no difference in performance what so ever. Have tried all different kinds of drivers still no change to actual gameplay.A few games i have had this issue with are Crysis 3, BF4, The Witcher 2, Eve Online. Just trying to find some sort of solution

 

I have updated the post and uploaded my vbios rom for you.

 

Thanks for that, running some tests

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Please post graphs of cpu and gpu behaviour during these times (clocks, tdp levels, temperatures, load percentages, throttle reason (gpu), throttle percentage). This will allow a diagnosis.

 

Hey guys I need your help here, kind of in a jam and I don't know what to do. I set my ram to the max settings on intel extreme tuning utility and now my computer won't boot at all. It turns on, keyboard lights up and resets. No screen no bios, what should I do?

 

I took out the main battery and plugged it in and tried that, I see the bios, whew!

 

Hey guys! Could someone please write a step-by-step guide on how to replace thermal paste on CPU and GPU? It's a bit confusing as it has 4 fans and I tried to find any sort of tutorials related to Clevo P570wm but failed

 

I'm considering one of these machines, are they decent for a desktop replacement? Specs look amazing.

I'll use it with a cooler, it appears there are a dozen cpus to choose from, i7 or xeon, what do you guys think of them? Looks like they come with a good screen (90% NTSC) as default.

Are these upgrade-able? If I go with an 800m class gpu can I swap it out with a 900m when they are out?

 

Let's see if Clevo announce anything now with the 980 announced.

 

The mobile series is not, don't expect any official word on any model until then.

 

Question will a p570wm be able to support/cool a Intel Core i7-5930K Haswell-E 6-Core 3.5GHz LGA 2011-v3 140W Desktop Processor

I'm not sure what a 2011 v3 slot is, is it backwards compatible with these laptops?

 

Haswell-E will not work in this machine.

Intel made sure of that by changing the socket. The pins don't match and the notches in the socket itself are different.

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Yeah and even if the socket was the same the pinout would likely be different, plus Haswell-E runs DDR4 so even if the pinout somehow was identical the IMC would throw a fit.

 

Though they are releasing a xeon with DDR3 support so it seems that they can operate in DDR3 mode but are helping push along DDR4.

 

Hello everybody thank you for your amazing knowledge on this machine! I am not yet an owner but am seriously considering on buying one for work with 3d modeling, rendering, animation and 2d. Architecture mostly, I dont game but might start with this awesome laptop!

i have read most of the responses to the fact that the model was discontinued and wanted to ask you if you would have an estimated idea of the prize that the new version, if it comes, will have?

sadly i don't have a huge budget, so i will buy the almost basic config from Schenker in Germany where i leave at the moment. I do not trust myself enough to buy the barebone and build the laptop myself, but i am planning to learn more by upgrading the parts in the future.

This is the setup that i will get:

Clevo P5970WM (Schenker W713)
Intel Xeon E5-1650 v2 6 core
AMD Radeon R9 M290x 4GB GDDR5
8GB DDR3 Ram
120 SSD
500 HD

This will cost me 3200$/1960£/2500€

With this info, do you think i could buy an equivalent setup with the new generation when it comes out? Or will it be just so more expensive because its new?

Thank you for you answers!

 

Typically prices for the next gen GPU/GPU stays the same. They tend to keep the same pricing structure as new series are released. However prices on other parts like the SSD could drop, making the over all price lower.

 

The question becomes if/when such a model would launch and when you need the system for,

 

see if we get lucky end of the year, or early next year we see this machine come with x99 and haswell E

 

Well the usual advice of don't buy until you have to applies. If something new is out by then great, otherwise you waited as long as you could.

 

Is there any reason not to build a desktop X99 setup? Just curious since your R2 is already plenty powerful.

 

X99 setup is a very nice. You can get in on the ground floor(5820k/2133 Ram/Asrock-(2) 970's)) or go straight to the top(RVE/i7 5960X/Dominators).(PSU/Water cooling for CPU/Case) Complete system for about 3800 - 4500.00 ((2) 980's). Unless you run (2)780 ti's then it will cost about 5100.00
Rough estimates of course....

 

need the 2+ screen, better cooling and pcie SSD in raid 0, then im satisfied. oh right and TSX skylake cpu and dmi 3.0, lower CAS DDR4

 

2 screens and better cooling easily accomplished with desktop setup, Rampage V Extreme has a single m.2 slot. not sure if other mobos offer more, but RVE also has 2x SATA Express. Lower CAS DDR4 you're gonna have to wait, but otherwise it sounds like an X99 desktop is the way to go for your requirements.

 

I think you would be happiest with 8x 8x dual gpu and 6x 4x m.2 4x pci-e slots on the cpu lanes

 

i would, two x 8 lanes pcie 3.0 cpu would be good, rest can all go towards SSD tbh anything above two GPU is kinda silly.
@n=1 desktop too much space and no fun in that kinda stuff, plus no bag can fit that tall tower

 

Desktops are easily customisable but I find they bore me too quickly.

 

Okay, that was pretty funny. I had to laugh on that one.

 

It's true, if you think I am bad at going through laptop hardware, I was terrible with desktop hardware, I went through P45 chipsets, X58, AMD hexcores etc. It was pretty bad

 

Well as you can tell, I pretty much touched it all. And when i get board, i jump back on the working on car stuff. .

 

Yeah but I do stick with notebook hardware a bit longer at least

 

That's a given. This laptop was a M18X R1 from 2011 and now it's 2014.

 

What modifications would you recommend doing on the P570WM to increase its performance (without incurring any risk for the machine)?
I've read about flashing the BIOS and other stuff, but I've got to admit I'm not well-versed on this topic - though I'm willing to learn and try it.