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    *** Official Clevo P570WM | P570WM3 / Sager NP9570 Owners Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by jclausius, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Most Clevo BIOS/EC cannot be downgraded. So flashing an older version (Mod or Stock makes no difference) often bricks the system.
    There is no temperature difference between old and new version. The system just reported a wrong temp reading because of the difference from Clevo's older to their newer EC. The removal of PSU for 30s after the flash is essential in order to clear the old readings... ("README" file)

    So the system did a thermal shutdown while flashing the BIOS after flashing the old EC...you can try to boot from a BIOS on USB:

    - Rename the v2 BIOS file from "P570WM.PM2" to "WM014.ROM" and put it on the USB stick
    - Keep "FN and "B" buttons pressed while booting from USB 2 port
    - If it boots from USB it will enter a BIOS recovery menu after an automatic reboot, at that stage let go of the keys and use the options there to reflash the BIOS

    If the above renaming doesn't work try renaming the v3 BIOS from "P570WM32.PM3" to:

    "WM019.ROM"


    Good Luck
     
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  2. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Worst case a shop can remove the bios chip and manually flash it.
     
  3. Solariseir

    Solariseir Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks Man, Great news for new year :)
     
  4. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yeah I suggest if people can they put some beer money into the donation link for the new year ;)
     
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    Solariseir Notebook Consultant

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    Maybe someone already did ;)
     
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  6. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Anybody here with the 3D screen version, please PM me! ;)

    EDIT: DONE, 3D also on the blog!
     
  7. Solariseir

    Solariseir Notebook Consultant

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    Here some images from before and after applying mod. Big thanks Prema :)

    Before :
    Before.JPG

    After :
    After.JPG
     
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    Red Line Notebook Deity

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    Meaker, got a few questions for you if you don't mind)

    1. Did you check the power consumption of the laptop with your gaming clocks: 4.3ghz CPU and 1046/3500 1.05v on the GPU's during 1st run of 3dmark11 or some heavy game titles like Crysis 3 and BF4?

    2. Are you using stock Clevo branded cards or MSI?

    3. Did you modify memory voltage on the cards using hard or softmod? Would you like to share this to the public?)

    Regards
     
  9. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    1. Nope, not got the tools at the moment.

    2. Clevo (MSI cards don't have an SLI bridge connector)

    3. Yes and sorry no.
     
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    Q56_Monster Notebook Consultant

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    That's a good core clock you have there :D
     
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    Did anyone try 2133Mhz 1.35v modules on this beast? I remember someone tried GSkill and the laptop didn't start..
     
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    Redline, I tried 2133 1.35v and 1.5v. 1.5v works fine, but 1.35v I couldn't get to work.

    Edit: well I should qualify that 1.5v works. It booted up fine but had to run 1866 loose timings, and 2133 wouldn't post at all, no matter what the timings.
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    My Samsung modules run at 2133 MHz cl10 so the imc can go faster. It's obviously picky.
     
  16. DR650SE

    DR650SE The Whiskey Barracuda

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    The more time I spend looking at this thread the more I want a P570WM. When I get home in March from my deployment it's either a P570WM, Desktop, or next Gen P570WM. My X7200 I believe has a bad 980X and I don't want to invest to replace it. It BSOD on boot when hyperthreading is enabled. :( other than that I get a BSOD every other day, likely CPU related. I have a working i7 920 to test if it's a bad CPU. I think the CPU fried a bit when my motherboard died. I just need to quit being lazy and test it.

    But all your benching is making me want the new generation and just get an external keyboard and monitors. Budget will be about $3500.

    /rant

    Sent from my XT912 using Tapatalk
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You might want to wait if you can until the maxwell chips hit.
     
  18. SFVogt

    SFVogt Notebook Consultant

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    Samsung YK0 rules! :thumbsup:
    [​IMG]


    DDR3-2133L Speed-Bin (Thaiphoon Burner) with max P570WM tRFC: 12-12-12-36-16-255-8-6-8-27-48
    [​IMG]


    DDR3-1866K Speed-Bin (Thaiphoon Burner) with custom tRFC: 11-11-11-32-15-234-8-5-8-26-43
    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Here are mine:

    [​IMG]

    and the result:

    [​IMG]
     
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  20. Mikla

    Mikla Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well... my 6 year old XPS 1730 finally died yesterday (well, I resurrected it enough to get data off). I need to have a laptop by Friday so I just pulled the trigger on a 9570. Did not have much time for research and could not get a AW M18 in time so hopefully I did OK:

    Processor: i7-4960X Extreme Edition
    Video: Dual Nvidia GeForce GTX 780M
    Mem: 32G
    Primary Drive: Two Samsung 840 Pro in Raid 0
    Secondary Drive: 1T spinning HD for back up and storage.

    Hopefully this will last me a few years. That XPS did me well... was still playing games on it up till the end.
     
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    Q56_Monster Notebook Consultant

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    Congrats Mikla! I think you'll like it. Let us know how that extreme proc works out. Extra cache may help, but almost all of us are running the 4930k, so let us know.
     
  22. Penchaud

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    Is the P570WM3 the only Clevo system at present that features a 4th generation CPUs and a 3D emitter?
     
  23. Mikla

    Mikla Notebook Enthusiast

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    Not sure I will see much difference from the 4930k... certainly not $400+ worth... but I could not help myself. ;)
    I'll let ya know.
     
  24. Meaker@Sager

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    They tend to clock similarly in desktops but hopefully you get a good chip.

    Also the p570wm3 and p370sm3 are 3d capable.
     
  25. Mikla

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    What are the latest OC and temp monitoring tools folks are using?
    Thanks!
     
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    Inspector and Afterburner are two that are very widely used. For monitoring I like to use HWinfo for my purposes but there are a lot of choices out there. Try a few out and see what feels best to you.
     
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    Solariseir Notebook Consultant

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    I use HWinfo too, its gives you different choices. you can choose, sesnors-only panel to monitor temps,clocks, fan speed and Min, Max values , ect.

    by the way fan speed monitoring is not available on 9570 with HWinfo or maybe I do something wrong :)
     
  28. Meaker@Sager

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    It won't work on most notebooks due to custom ec.
     
  29. Red Line

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    Is it possible to enable 3d (build in) on Sager NP9570??
     
  30. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    With the right emitter, cable and a bios flash I believe so.
     
  31. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    That and the monitor HAS to be LGD02C5 (HW-ID).
     
  32. ole!!!

    ole!!! Notebook Prophet

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    hey Prema, Meaker, does the modded bios have pci e menu to adjust options? is there something like pcie gen 3 speed that type of thing?
     
  33. Meaker@Sager

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    It's allowed to up to the max the mob supports (2.0)
     
  34. Solariseir

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    Hi guys, I got my 3D emitter, but there is a little issue with the cable.

    The connector on the motherboard is JST SH 5-Pin but on the emitter is 6 pin, it seems I should make the cable myself. Do you what is the connector on the Emitter side?

    Dell-Alienware-M17X-R3-NVidia-Sub-IR-Sensor-Board-Panel-180108631002A06-XX7CM.jpg

    photo 1.jpg

    photo 2.JPG
     
  35. Prema

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    On the board only PINs 1-4 are used and both ends have a sign to mark PIN 1. :)
     
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    there is one little thing, if I wanna make the cable myself, which pin on the mainboard should connect to which one on the emitter? :D
     
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    The little white arrow symbol always points to PIN 1
     
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    I think I should buy the Dell cable for the emitter, I couldn't find the header type online. then I will connect the first five of them to five JST SH connector on the mainboard and see if it work.
     
  39. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Don't connect the fifth, Clevo doesn't use it:

    [​IMG]
     
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    I just had a look and the eDP connector is not soldered onto the non 3d motherboard.
     
  41. moroznah

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    Hey guys!
    Looking at Clevo P570WM, got some questions.
    My main task for this machine is heavy virtualization. Gaming is casual (will use single GPU). Not interested in OCing at all.

    1) Does the BIOS support latest Xeon CPUs? I have E5-2695v2 (30MB cache, 12 x 2.4GHz, 115W TDP) available to be cannibalized from a workstation. According to Eurocom, this barebone should be compatible.

    2) Is IOMMU(VT-d) working? Hopefully ACPI (DMAR tables) isn't screwed. Desktop X79's usually do just fine, however i have no idea if Clevo did anything bad to the BIOS. According to some posts in this thread, it is possible they did...

    3) Is anyone running Linux on it? Preferably Debian or Ubuntu. Any hardware with binary blobs that refuses to work? Absense of Optimus crap hopefully should prevent any GPU related issues in Linux :) Is KVM/Xen running IOMMU bugfree?

    Thanks!
     
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    thats some high tech question anyone working in server side would know lol. try Meaker, Prema with bios problem. as for linux im not so sure who you would ask. perhaps meaker and other resellers?
     
  43. Prema

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    We tested a v2 Xeon and it works with the Mod BIOS, but has no working Turbo on stock BIOS...I can't 100% confirm the 12 core as we have no sample...
     
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    You should be able to use at least 10 cores but 12 cores as stated is going into the unknown.
     
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    Thanks man, you're a great help like always.


    There are two different lcd connectors on the motherboard, one is 40pins for normal lcd, and another is 30pins for LG 3d lcd. and a 5pin connector for 3d emitter.
    I have non3d model, but the lcd is 3d capable so it is connected to that 3d lcd connector (30pin) and the 3d emitter header is soldered too
     
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    Prema, do you have the pinout of the 3d Emitter?
     
  47. Meaker@Sager

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    Sager must have ordered the machines with both connectors soldered on, interesting to know.
     
  48. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    It has naturally to be the same. :)
     
  49. Solariseir

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    it should be, but who knows what Clevo thinks :D

    Standard USB should be +5 D- D+ GND , but it is +5 GND D- D+ , I'm not sure if Nvidia follows the standard one or this one. because other internal devices use standard pinout to prevent confusing :) (Like now)
     
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    Thanks guys, atleast i know now that something from v2 should work :)
    About IOMMU, well, i guess i'll have to test. I saw somewhere in this thread a screen of ESXi running. I'm sure the guy wouldn't run it if all hardware virtualization features didn't work.

    I'm gonna join P570WM owners club as soon as i find a supplier with sane prices in this part of the world (EU) :)
    Btw, any recommendations on this matter? I want just the barebone, no CPU RAM HDD
     
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