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    *** Official Clevo P37xSM-A/Sager NP9377 owner's lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ethrem, May 22, 2014.

  1. Meaker@Sager

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    Plus if a 4ghz CPU is struggling then a 4.4ghz wont do much better, you would have to move up to a hex or octa core and hope the code is threaded.
     
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    its either this or the razer blade for me. The Razer Blade will just give me that intensive browsing time when away from a power supply, it also is 1/4 thinner than this machine. But that limits me from getting an outstanding performance like the P37xSM, so I'm kind of at the edge of having my head exploding on which one is worth the investment. Which ever one i get, i want to connect it to an external monitor no matter what.

    Also, a note to add is that i currently do not own a PS4 but will do some time soon, the games i would play as of definite will be League of Legends and CS:GO. The thing with me is that I seem to have a weird OCD where I want to have the best possible performance and yet cap it at 60 FPS. So i dunno, this which will maximize performance to the highest settings excluding the battery power and the bulkiness. Or the Razor Blade 14 which is "meh" in performance but great in looks, battery and work related.
     
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    does anyone have a good icc profile for this laptop?
     
  4. Brent R.

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    Razor isn't even "meh" in performance it's just terrible terrible design terrible idea but I guess some people worry more about what their laptop looks like than how it performs so if u want a pretty turd get the razor :)


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    True, I didnt wanna be totally dis-respective towards Razer's performance but I guess your right, they do suck pretty bad. I caught my eye on the Aourus X5, so I'm gonna wait for some reviews on that before i make my final decision.
     
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    I have owned the Razer. Super portable and that's about it. The screen resolution is too high imo for the gpu. Keyboard isn't great. Trackpad is fine, but if you are thinking of gaming on it , well, its a sub per experience.

    The clevo with the 120hz screen is bulky, and harder to transport. But when it comes to gaming, kicks the tar out of the blade.

    Aurus might have the gsync, something to think about. Soldered cpu I am sure. Gpus also soldered. So upgrades will be much more limited.

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  7. Brent R.

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    I can tell you now the Aorus laptop won't be great either, because it is impossible to get all that hardware in such a small form factor without having problems with temps and throttling they just simply haven't found a way to adiquitely cool a laptop when it is that small....that is why all the "pretty" small form factor laptops with all this supposed good hardware that is soldered aren't going to end up being good laptops until they find new walls of cooling...
     
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    Just keep your laptop in a small freezer, and run video and usb cables out to a monitor, keyboard, and mouse...

    Heh.
     
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    or simply get a laptop that was designed properly and was well thought out before they put high performance hardware in them :p
     
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    "So you are recommending Ps7xSM is the recommended laptop for gaming?"
     
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    for gaming I recommend the np9377sm-a, now if you are going to be using the laptop for some other task mostly other than gaming then maybe I would recommend a different model of sager/clevo laptops but deff stay away from aorus/razor they don't have adequate cooling for the hardware that's inside of them
     
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    The ability to deliver lots of power and tweak the GPUs a lot makes it very attractive for gamers and enthusiasts.
     
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    I do wish the p37xsm came with a desktop processor. Or, there was some other system in the Clevo lineup that had sli capability and a desktop processor.
     
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    I don't know what Clevo model this is but is this what you mean? : http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(1,234,0)ec
     
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    I meant a normal desktop processor. That's a XEON, unless I missed something
     
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    huh? what does? This laptop? If so then yah lots of power, what do you use to tweak the gpu's? afterburner?
     
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    I have recently acquired a used p370sm-a and have an opportunity to clean install Win7 pro 64bit on it. Has anyone tried this? Does the Win8.1 drivers work with Win 7?
    I try searching this forum for it but haven't found much on this topic.
    Is it too hard and I shouldn't bother with it and just put 8.1 on it?

    Any advice? How to guides would be much apprx8'ed
     
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    You should have no problems, I have not seen any win 8 driver that does not also work with win 7. Just make sure windows update finishes before installing any drivers and you should be good to go. Is there a specific driver that is concerning you?
     
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    Thanks. However, I just purchased my P37xsm from Mythlogic (I think they call it a Nyx 1713 or something) and I'm quite happy with it. I would have gone with the desktop processor at the time if I had known that option was available, but no worries.
     
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    Just checked this out and it's a Clevo P177SM-A based not P37xx SM-A. No Sli option. Did you get their model wrong - you did say 'or something' ;)
     
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    Yeah, I meant Nyx 3713-A Black. Specs below:

    Mobile Chassis: MYTHLOGIC Nyx 3713-A Black Chassis (Clevo P377SM-A)
    What da Puck??: Gargoyle Beer Money - 6 Pack
    Exterior Finish: Rubberized Finish
    Mobile Display: 17.3" Full HD (1920x1080) Matte LED Backlit LCD
    Monitor Calibration: Free MYTH Professional Monitor Color Calibration
    CPU: Intel Core i7-4910MQ 2.9GHz, 8M L3 Cache, 22nm, DDR3L-1600MHz, Quad-Core Mobile Processor
    Thermal Compound: Free IC Diamond Thermal Compound
    System Memory: 32GB (4 x 8GB) , PC3-14900, 1866MHz SODIMM Quad-core processors ONLY!
    Video Adapter:
    2 x nVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M 8GB GDDR5 (SLI)
    Optical: Notebook Black 8X DVD+RW/CDRW Combo Drive
    RAID [Requires Identical Hard Drive Selections]: RAID 0 | 2 Disk Min. Striped set, improved performance, additional storage drive highly recommended
    mSATA Solid State Drive: Crucial MX200 500GB mSATA SATA III 6GB/sec Solid State Drive
    mSATA Solid State Drive: Crucial MX200 500GB mSATA SATA III 6GB/sec Solid State Drive
    Hard Drive: None (REQUIRES mSATA for Bootable Drive)
    Sound Card: Sound Blaster X-Fi MB3
    Keyboard: Standard Backlit Keyboard - NON Chiclet
    Network Card: Onboard Gigabit (10/100/1000 Mbits/sec) LAN subsystem
    Wireless Card: Intel Centrino Advanced-AC 7260 2*2 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n + BT 4.0 350/867MB Total Bandwidth
    Bluetooth: Integrated Bluetooth 4.0
    Operating System: Windows 7 Professional
    Notebook Cooler: Cooler Master NotePal U3 Notebook Cooling Stand for 15"-19" Notebooks
    MYTHLOGIC Assurance: MYTH Lifetime Assurance with Lifetime Labor + 1 Year Parts Warranty, 45 Day 2-Way Shipping Cont US
    Phoenix Upgrade Plan: Lifetime Phoenix Upgrade Plan
    FREE MYTHLOGIC T-Shirt Pick a size: MYTHLOGIC T-Shirt - Extra Large
    MYTHLOGIC System Media + Mousepad: MYTH Mousepad and System Media
     
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    That's more like it :D Congrats, nice to see you're skipping win 8 as well.
     
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    Oh, yeah, I like it a lot. And looking at the price of the Eurocom with equivalent specs, but a desktop processor, I probably would NOT have gone with Eurocom. Mythlogic is great, and they did a great job building it.

    Edit: forgot to add that Win 8 is crapola and there is no way I would go with it. I'm holding my breath on Win 10, as Windows is kind of like Star Trek: alternating versions are good/bad. Hopefully the trend continues with 10. 3.11 was good, 95, not so much, 98 was good, ME was horrific, XP was great, Vista, bad, 7 great, 8 crap. 10, we will see.
     
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    Yeah, the DT CPU does come at a serious premium, it's £400 cheaper now than when I first looked back in Feb but still not cheap. Eurocom are a bit more expensive than most builders but they do have international supply and warranty well sorted, and a large selection of upgrade kits.

    They were the only supplier offering 120hz display options for me. After using a 120hz glossy display on my AW I wasn't about to accept a 'downgrade', especially when games are going to hit triple digits FPS! It's all about the gaming ;).

    What was your bottom line if you don't mind me asking :).
     
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    +1 - the 120Hz option and also their warranty did it for me
     
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    mid 3000's. Mythlogic gave me a military discount, more or less equivalent to a cash discount.

    WRT the display, I mostly use my laptop as a DTR, hooked up to an external monitor and keyboard; I got sick of trying to sync files between my desktop and laptop when I travelled, and coincidentally, both my laptop and desktop were due for a replacement at more or less the same time. Given that, and the incredible capabilities of the 980ms (2 980ms in SLI is about equivalent to 1.5 desktop 980 GTXs), I decided to downsize and get one computer to RULE THEM ALL!!!! Ackk, cough, cough, I mean one computer to use for everything. So, I have the Nyx 3713 hooked up to a 28" external monitor, a nice mechanical keyboard, and a cooling stand, and I also have a carrying case with an extra power supply and extra mouse, so that when I travel, I just unplug the Nyx from everything, and put it in my carrying case. No need to take anything else from my desktop setup, all I need is in the case, except for the actual laptop itself. Works out great, and I can settle for gaming at 60 hz when I am travelling.
     
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    " Works out great, and I can settle for gaming at 60 hz when I am traveling"


    Blasphemy! Actually the main reason I got this laptop was the option for 120hz screen while traveling and the power to run it. I was a little worried this might not be an option again in the future. Would love to view proven wrong





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    Me too but hopefully the OEM's are taking note that powerful GPU's now make a 120hz display an easy choice. Even on slower games (on the AW), way less than 60 fps, it just looks smother and crisper in games to me. No shearing either in fast running games.

    The Alienware M17x forum now has a sticky for upgrading to a 120hz display, a very popular upgrade. It should become the 'norm' for a gaming laptop IMO. I wouldn't want this glossy display for traveling but static, low light gaming it can't be beaten, and there are matte options @ 120hz.
     
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    I won't replace this laptop with anything but a 120hz option. Period.

    I did go for the 120hz matte because of travel being the main purpose. I love it though. No regrets.

    Desktop swift is better but this screen is a close second.

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    I wanted to go one stage further. I love the 3D in the right games and it becomes 'natural' to me after a while. There is nobody doing an sli 980m with it, and NV have made it impossible even if you purchase an external kit (but I am told that an external monitor will work, it's just not an option for me), the laptop OEM has to pay up-front - :mad:. I can still use my 3D TV but that is nowhere near the quality of NV 3D, after conversion to the crappy 3DTV system :(.

    I need a 50" TV with a DVI\DP monitor connection to a high refresh panel - doesn't exist as yet...

    I have asked Eurocom if there is something they can build (or something down the line)but no response as yet :(.
     
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    ROG swift is 3D with external emitter 1440p 144Hz gsync with DisplayPort, but only 27"

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    Glad to hear it works, I have an external emitter but no room for a TV and a Monitor (viewable from where I have to sit). Eurocom just emailed that the 980m does not support 3D. Hmm.
     
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    Well I ran Metro last light in 3d on my P570Wm with a pair of 980M cards on my asus ROG swift with no issues :)

    The only thing the 980M does not support is internal screen 3d.
     
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    So, just plug in the emitter and connect the monitor via the displayport (thunderbolt)? Anything else driver-wise needed? What cable does that setup need at the monitor end?

    Thanks,
     
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    My eyes are f00ked, so no 3D here. Would love it
     
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    MickyD

    Yeah you need mini display port to full size display port for the cable to the swift, emitter, glasses... Then enable 3D in Nvidia control panel, good to go

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    I am so tempted! I have the emitter and a couple of pairs of the glasses so I just need the monitor and cable. I'm disabled from a stroke so it would have to go on a bed-table with the lappy on a table next to me. I need to think about it :rolleyes:.

    When I tried the emitter the NV CP still did not have the stereoscopic sub menu, I take it it appears as soon as the monitor is connected?
    :(, I only got it for the 120hz display since like most people I'd seen 3D TV and didn't rate it, eyestrain was always a problem. When I saw 120hz 3D from NV it was a revelation. No eyestrain even after hours and a real new level to the gaming experience. The AW comes out occasionally for my 3D 'fix' :vbthumbsup:.
     
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    I thought you sold your P570WM?
     
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    Well, Ive bin and gone and dun it! Ordered a ROG SWIFT PG278Q and mini DP cable. Should be all here by Monday, wish me luck I can get the 3D to work!!

    I'll figure out the logistics once I decide I like it :D.
     
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    Mini display to full size display cable, correct?

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    Yeah, sorry I wasn't clear. I see it comes with a full size cable so I ordered quite a long mini to full one so I have maximum flexibility with locating stuff.

    Going to be interesting trying the 3DTV over HDMI at the same time - just for giggles :p
     
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    I had the SWIFT with my old desktop last year. Epic monitor. But does sometimes suffer from inversion. Hopefully you won't notice it

    IPS 144Hz 2560x would be baus
     
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    Yes it was as simple as plug and play and set up the glasses. It detects a 3d capable monitor and unlocks all the settings, I used the monitor USB3 hub connected to my main hub so I did not have to plug in extra cables to the laptop.
     
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    That monitor has loads of problems mate... worse than when the ROG came out. Loads of poor reviews - backlight bleed, poor warranty customer service etc etc
     
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    It will be interesting to see how IPS copes with the faster refresh rate.
     
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    Thanks, sounds like a plan.

    I had visions of driver re-installs, and NV drivers are so rubbish right now - until they figure out win 10 coding.
    I did see some driver issues with g-sync, do you know anything about that?
    I probably won't notice, my eyes are not great, what is the effect of inversion?

    What should I watch for?
     
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    G-sync driver issues? I'm not sure what you mean?
     
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    Something to do with g-sync showing as on all the time. NV said it as cosmetic and required the change due to a new desktop model in win 10. Users went ballistic and NV have now said they will try to fix it. Some said it was not just an indicator error?

    It's somewhere buried in all this dross: https://forums.geforce.com/default/...-driver-feedback-thread-released-5-31-15-/66/

    I just wondered if anyone had noticed a problem?
     
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