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    *** Official Clevo P37xSM-A/Sager NP9377 owner's lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ethrem, May 22, 2014.

  1. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    It doubles as a mini-DP connection, so yes you can plug in an external monitor through the TB port.
     
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    There are some thunderbolt monitors that let you chain off of it too so you can add devices all on one cable.
     
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    Well, hello again Sager world. I am now a proud owner of a 9377.

    Specs:
    i7-4810MQ
    16gb HyperX
    850 Pro 512gb SSD
    Nvidia 980m SLI
    standard screen and bluray reader.

    I just ordered 16gb more of hyperx ram and one more 512gb 850pro to make it the ssd's raid0. Will at some point try to find a 4940x cpu.

    Some quick thoughts on the machine. It is a beast in disguise. Have had it running BF4 all day at work on a 1080p monitor all settings on ultra except a couple tweaks and it was running between 140-190fps depending on the map. The GPUS's stayed between 60-70c and the cpu stayed right at 80-83 while running bf4 for about 6 hours. I will try it tonight on my ROG Asus PG278Q monitor and see how the 144hz/gsync goes with the beast. Built quality is great. It is not quite the fit and finish of my AW18. The trackpad is absolutely horrible compared the AW. It is not fair to compare the screen as this is the standard panel. This panel is decent and better than I thought it would be but nothing compared to the beautiful screen on the AW18. Overall the machine is nice and it wasn't bought to be used with the LCD, that will be used maybe 2-% of the time. The rest of the time it will be hooked up to a external monitor and a mouse being used for sure and a nostromo n52. In a pinch and what little on the go gaming the lcd will be fine. I will also calibrate it in the next few days to get it close to my other monitors for when I edit photos etc. They keyboard actually seems to type easier than the AW18 KB for some reason. It just felt more comfortable, hard to explain. The sounds was surprisingly good compared to what I remember about Sager machines and I would say just as good if not maybe a little better than the AW18. But again gaming most of the time will be headphones for external speakers.

    Overall, the notebook is great+. It is on the borderline great to excellent, teeter-tottering. I would buy one again without a doubt. This one will be in the stable for a while, she is a beast and makes the next leap forward to hyper insane power with these 980m's. I kinda like how the notebook is unassuming and not many at glance would realize the sheer beastly power it has but also has the slight hint by the chrome grill on the back and the little red dots of lights on the corners on the back.
     
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    Buying at the start of a full new generation much like the 680m it should last a fair time :)
     
  5. andarru

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    Hello all, I have been a lurker for quite some time on these forums, researching about the different laptops before I have finally came to a decision.
    I have just ordered a NP9377-S Clevo P377SM-A
    Here are the specifications:

    Display 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080)
    4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4810MQ (2.8GHz - 3.8GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache)
    IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
    NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 980M (8.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 (Maxwell)
    Ram 16GB DDR3 1600MHz [2x8GB] Kingston HYPER X (CL9) Dual Channel Memory
    NO mSATA SSD Drives - Removed
    Primary Hard Drive 1TB 7200RPM [SATA II - 3GB/s]
    Optical Drive Bay 6X Blu-Ray Reader + 8X DVDRW/CDRW Super Multi Combo Drive
    Intel® Dual Band AC 7260 802.11 A/AC/B/G/N 2.4/5.0GHz + Bluetooth™ 4.0
    Operating System No Operating System [Drivers & Utility Software Only (Windows 7 & 8.1)]

    Now for an SSD drive, I plan on swapping out the 1TB 7200rpm (to sell) and inserting a 512gb Samsung 850 Pro SSD for the primary hard drive.
    Reason for this is because I plan to buy another 512gb 850 PRO ways down the road, and I want a pure ssd system.
    Me removing the mSATA 120 gb ssd was to save money for the 512gb 850 pro.
    I also plan to install Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit for my operating system.

    What do you guys think of the Intel 730 480gb SSD? Samsung 500gb 840 pro?

    Do you guys have any suggestions? anything else I should be doing? if I'm doing something wrong? Comments?
    Any suggestions/comments/criticism will be so helpful.
    I've been with a intel graphics card for all my life, and finally saved up enough money for a high end laptop. Thanks!
     
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    Stick with the 850pro, it's the best SATA drive at the moment.
     
  7. dellienware owner

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    Where's the 2nd ssd drive bay. I only found the one on the bottom.
     
  8. pathfindercod

    pathfindercod Notebook Virtuoso

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    Under the keyboard if your talking about the mSata slot.
     
  9. dellienware owner

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    Looking for 2nd 2.5 slot.
     
  10. pathfindercod

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    it piggy backs on top of the first drive...
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Yep they sit on top of each other with a spacer in between.
     
  12. dellienware owner

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    How do I install 8.1 in raid, should I first install the controller then retry installation?
     
  13. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Create the raid in BIOS and you don't need a driver to install 8.1

    The BIOS is pretty self explanatory.

    Then you install windows to the new drive it sees.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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    it was only seeing one of my two drives.
     
  15. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    That's how Raid works. It makes one big drive out of both of them. If you look at the capacity of the drive, it should be double the capacity of one of your drives.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
  16. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes and depending on what raid mode you selected that volume will either be that of a single drive for raid 1 or double one drive for raid 0.
     
  17. pathfindercod

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    Hey Gentlemen - Can the 9377 raid the msata slots and sata ports together to have a 4 x raid (2msata and 2 standard ssd's)? Optical drive will stay..

    Thanks!
     
  18. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Good question. I don't see why not but I just shipped my machine off today to get new video cards so I can't check.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
  19. pathfindercod

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    Cool.. I was checking before offering 2 mSata cards.
     
  20. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    My msata were raid 0 but I'm not sure if it will do raid across the controller. It's all Intel so it should as long as the drives match in size I'd think?

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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    I was thinking they would. I had 3 sata and 1 mSata in my aw18 in raid. I might go ahead and order them. Thanks bro.
     
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    What happened to your GPUS?
     
  23. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    Had issues and Sager took care of me (cash exchange involved but they were more than reasonable. I'll have 980M cards when I get it back). And yes, I paid for the upgrade but it was mutually determined to be acceptable. That's all I will say about it.

    Sager will work with you. As long as you do your part and cooperate with everything they request. Can say I was pissed and made a thread on the main forum about my saga... And after all of this, I have decided that I won't buy anything BUT Sager.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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    Hey guys. I'll probably be joining the NP9377 club soon. I'm still working out a few details but plan on ordering a machine in the next week or so. Here's what I'm planning on ordering at the moment, though some things are still open to change:

    Sager NP9377-S (Clevo P377SM-A)
    - Copper cooling and IC Diamond upgrades
    - 4th Generation Intel Haswell Core i7-4910MQ
    - SLI (2x) - NVIDIA 980M
    - 32GB DDR3L 2133 (CL11) - Corsair Vengeance Performance
    - 1TB Samsung 840 EVO mSATA SSD
    - 2 x 2TB 5400RPM
    - 6X Blu-Ray Burner
    - Killer Wireless-N 1202 + Bluetooth 4.0
    - 2 year warranty

    Total cost ~$4200

    Is there anything you'd recommend doing differently? Also, should one AC adapter be enough to power this or will I need to get a second adapter and the converter?
     
    Last edited: Dec 20, 2014
  25. pathfindercod

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    One AC adapter is fine as long as your not going to try to break any overclocking world records..
     
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    For stock vbios a single adapter will be fine, it's only when you start fidling with voltages that a second can come in handy.
     
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    Shadow-Tek Notebook Consultant

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    Hello!
    Here is the Clevo I just orderd:
    Code:
    Clevo P377SM-A
    
    i7-4940MX
    GTX 980M GDDR5 in SLI mode
    17.3" 1920 x 1080 FHD (16:9) LED Matte 120Hz 72% NTSC Color Gamut Display
    Kingston HyperX 32GB Dual Channel DDR3L at 1600MHz
    Samsung 840 EVO 1TB mSATA SSD
    Samsung 840 EVO 1TB mSATA SSD
    2TB 5400 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
    2TB 5400 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
    2TB 5400 RPM SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drive
    Intel® Ultimate N WiFi Link 6300 a/g/n 3x3 with 3rd Antenna install
    @Ethrem, in your siggy you have "4940MX @ 4.2GHz" Is that the turbo speed with OC?

    EDIT: Also if you wouldn't mind, could you tell me what tools you used to check out everything to be sure everything was set up right? (ie voltages, etc..)
     
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2014
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    XTU has the ability to change and monitor all the required readings.
     
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    Ok, Thanks
     
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2014
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Just remember to move in small steps and perhaps take one or two steps back when running for 24/7 to ensure stability.
     
  31. kolias

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    Guys soon i will order the p377sm as a barebone.(rjtech)
    Do you know if the cpu heatsink of p370 is it the same as the p377sm?
    Thanks
     
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    Which P370? The EM series used a different CPU/2nd GPU combo heatsink.
     
  33. Ethrem

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    They've had my machine since today. Can't wait to fire up those 980s!

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
  34. Shadow-Tek

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    Congrats man! Mine seems stuck in pre-production limbo
    ;/
     
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    The fun with the 980m has only just begun too so lots of lovely benchmarks to come I think from many owners.
     
  36. Shadow-Tek

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    When you guys order a laptop, how long does it usually take until it ships? Like.. how long does it usually take to build? I went with HIDevolution and Ive been in pre-production for 11 days now? Is that normal? Just curious.
     
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    It probably isn't normal, but the 980's are in short supply. I think many resellers have them on backorder so unfortunately you just have to wait until more come in stock. Have you called and asked what the reason is?
     
  38. Shadow-Tek

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    No I'm trying not to be a pest so I just use e-mail, but they don't always answer it.
     
  39. kantana

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    I ordered from Mythlogic last month and it arrived this week so in total 37 days including international shipping. This was with gtx980m SLI.
     
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    New owner of NP9377 with 4910MQ, what are people getting as stable overclocks for 24/7 use? I was getting thermal throttling at first then repasted with Gelid extreme and did the foil tape mod to the fan and heatsink. Currently stable with 40/40/39/39 multis with -40mV offset. Temps after hours of x265 encoding reach low 90's.
    I'm reaching a heat/power wall at 4ghz on all 4 cores where TDP reaches over 80W and the throttling kicks in. Quite disappointed in the cpu cooling on this notebook. Any helpful suggestions to overclock to 4ghz?
     
  41. Shadow-Tek

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    What's the foil tape mod?

    Wow that long :(
     
  42. kantana

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    The tape foil mod is just taping up the gap between the fan and heatsink so more air us channeled down to the fins if the heatsink instead if leaking unto the gap. It's good for knocking temps down a few degrees.

    Yeah my order took a long time, assume they were waiting for the gtx980ms.
     
  43. Shadow-Tek

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    I just found out they are waiting for my 120hz screen to come in. They said it should be there by Monday and they hope to ship it by Weds. So I should get it sometime the following week.
    I'll have to google that foil mod just in case I need to do it. Thanks for that info :)
     
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    Now you got me interested, where did you get that 120hz screen? What other components are needed to install it?
     
  45. Ethrem

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    Well they charged my card yesterday for the upgrade so it's got to be in processing now. The 980M cards are in short supply though right now for sure though.

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
     
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    Repaste with liquid ultra and you will drop quite a bit. Couldn't get my system past 3.9Ghz pre-ultra but was able to get it to 4.3GHz for a quick wprime and used 4.2GHz as my daily. I have dual power adapters though. I was using 42/42/42/42, 70W max, stock voltage, 150A max. Needless to say it dropped down when pushed too damn hard but it worked very well for games. Lowest it ever went after that was 4GHz except extreme testing and after 48 hours of logging with hwinfo, it had a 4.12GHz average. Stock, my chip averaged 3.6GHz lol. The problem is the heatsink is probably not making hardly any contact with the die. Mine wasn't. I actually had to puddle Liquid Ultra on there to get it to work with it which is dangerous if it creeps out the sides and goes where it shouldn't.

    Those settings were with a 4940MX by the way and I didn't increase the wattage because it was creeping up to 90C with those settings and I didn't want to run something that thermal throttles so I choked it with watts.

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    I tried 4G across all 4 cores and I can see it hitting 75W so it will definitely power throttle otherwise if I step up the TDP it will temp throttle. I have dual PSU with y cable but was looking to get stable overclock on cpu before messing with the gpus.

    I have liquid ultra but hesitant to use it on this machine. How many degrees did you drop with liquid ultra?

    3.6G at stock makes sense with your extreme processor since it has TDP of 57W, so 10W higher than mine. Looks like each additional multi needs greater power draw than previous. We just need a better cooling solution for our cpus.
     
  48. Shadow-Tek

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    They ordered a whole new chassis from Eurocom with the 120hz screen so that's how I'm getting it. As for the components that are needed to install it, I have no idea man as HIDevolution is building it for me and I have no idea about that stuff.

    Sorry kantana, I wish I could be more help. You can check Eurocoms website, they may have all that info for you?
     
  49. Ethrem

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    You must have a really bad chip. My 4940MX would do -85mv stable out of the box which bumped me to 3.7-3.8GHz right off the bat. What is your stock VID as reported in hwinfo? I definitely used 70W, was a formula I spent hours tweaking. I don't have CLU left so if this new heatsink doesn't make good contact, I'll just run it at -85mv and call it a day. Stuff is a pain to work with, especially when you don't really *need* anything more than stock. I believe my stock VID @ 3.8GHz was like 1.22 but I don't have my machine to test. I'll have to wait and see.

    Oh and CLU dropped my idle to 30s from 40s and my load down to 75 from 87 @ -85mv. It was a huge change. It's just really hard to work with and I got pissed because most of it got lost in the cap.

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    Make sure you use a 1mm thermal pad of high quality for the CPU VRMs and then get a perfect application of paste, this helps control the temperatures.
     
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