Well that makes sense. Actually sounds like a pretty cool idea; I also bought this laptop for Vm performance because I prefer Windows for usability and applications for school, but I have a love affair with linux for the terminal.
At the moment my i3 380m is just barely enough to handle 2 virtual machines and a slim Win7 install. I was thinking of doing something like your setup but with a usb wifi dongle. Hopefully I can get Windows and Vmware to pass it through, but I have to wait for the dongle to come in. I didn't think the setup I was planning would be made a lot easier by Vt-d, but it could benefit.
Sadly though my planned laptop has the base processor. The $1500 limit I set myself so I still have money for my university transfer was all used up by the 95% gamut screen, 6300n, and other small boosts like the 750gb hdd. Anyway if I can get the usb setup working or if I am forced to use Nat, the speed will be more than enough seeing as I do all of my downloading in the host os.
If the card supports it and the guest os supports the card you should be able to.
Damn talking to McDave and thinking about vm access to my wifi card is making me regret I didn't upgrade the processor. I guess I can upgrade later or dualboot/livecd.
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It can show up as Lenovo's etc. because windows automatically searches for drivers and the drivers for the AUO are the same. Google and download a monitor info app or something; its pretty simple.
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long story short, Lenovo Thinkpads uses them too (as far as I can recall..)
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I don't think they use the same screens, just the drivers are recognized as the same for some reason. It came up in a topic on NBR before. I'm almost positive the 15.6 thinkpad doesn't have a screen this good though; I read that the newest model only has 215cdm brightness, even if it does have a 95% gamut and 1080p that is about 100cdm short :/ lol
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Hello everyone I a, new to this forum and am looking for a college laptop for high power "cad"
(and gaming) after a lot of research I've decided on the 9150. I dont have the money for a ssd right now with my other upgrades (7970) and I was wondering if I got the 750gb hdd and wanted to get a ssd further down the line could I move the hdd into the optical drive and put the ssd where the hdd was without to much trouble? And also how difficult is it to install the bracket in the drive space? Thanks for the help in advance.
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Okay great thank you! Another question is I will have a tv set up in my dorm room on my desk for my ps3 but once I get this beast I will probably convert to pc gaming because in all honesty it is the best and always will be. So my question is it as simple as just plugging in the hdmi cord betweent the tv and computer or is there a program to be run along side, sorry for the stupid question and what is the stock gamut for the basic matte screen? Thanks again.
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It is that simple you jjust plug in the HDMI to the TV and the other side in the laptop. And the stock gamut is 72% usually, some resellers have used a 60% version though. the 72 is more common now i think.
Also wow my laptop left New York on the 20th and last night at 7:15 on the 21st it was already in Salt Lake city Utah, about 3/4 of the way over here to California where I am near Los AngelesAt this rate I'm hoping it arrives today [22nd], would be pretty awesome; I'm staying home today and tomorrow in case Fedex comes because I have to sign for it ha
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Okay great thanks again. I believe I will be ordering through xoticoc as I've heard nothing but great reviews of them. On the wireless cards I would like to upgrade to one of the Intels either the 235 or 300 sorry if those numbers are off I know the cheaper one has Bluetooth which I won't really need so on the more expensive one does it just receive a better signal or longer range or does it actually increase Internet performance? Thanks
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I'm pretty sure the 6300 gets slightly longer range, and faster max bandwidth, up to 300mb/s.
If you don't use bluetooth the 6300 is awesome.
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Sager NP9150 / Clevo P150EM
- FREE!! Continental (U.S. Lower 48 - UPS Ground Only) Ground Shipping on ALL Sager Laptops (Enter Coupon Code: "SAGERFREESHIP" during order process)
- 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen (SKU - S1R316)
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3610QM (2.3GHz - 3.3GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU – S2R174)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- AMD Radeon HD 7970M (2048MB) GDDR5 DX11 [User Upgradeable] (ETA: June) (SKU - S3R155)
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 8GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4R371)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Finish
- No mSATA SSD
- 750gb 7200rpm (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) (SKU - S5R306)
- Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included) (SKU - S7R455)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth Included (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
- Sager - Intel® Ultimate-N 6300 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module (SKU - S8R112)
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Backlit Keyboard
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- No Operating System Standard - Drivers & Utility Software Only
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- No Xotic PC Gear
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Thats a great build; add in a 256GB SSD later on and it is a complete beast! Hah.
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Haha yup I'm excited!!! One last question, Im a bit of a battery freak not that they have to last a long time but I'm all for the proper care of them and since I know this has to be plugged in to function with the beast of a gpu does it charge and then run off battery thus screwing with my charge cycles or could I just say remove the battery while playing games and run directly off the power brick as if it was a desktop? Thanks hopefully that made sense lol
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Right. So I'm about to pull the trigger on a NP9150. But I've come up with two configurations, one from Malibal, on from XoticPC, and would like to know what you guys think of it.
Here are the full specs, though I'll list the differences below -
XoticPC:
Sager NP9150 / Clevo P150EM
- FREE!! Continental (U.S. Lower 48 - UPS Ground Only) Ground Shipping on ALL Sager Laptops (Enter Coupon Code: "SAGERFREESHIP" during order process)
- 15.6 FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen (SKU - S1R316)
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Standard Dead Pixel Policy
- Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core i7-3610QM (2.3GHz - 3.3GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU S2R174)
- - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- nVidia GeForce GTX 670M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus Technology [User Upgradeable] (SKU S3R517)
- No Video Adapter
- No External Mobile Display
- 8GB - DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) - SPECIAL! (SKU - S4P369)
- Sager Branding
- Standard Finish
- No mSATA SSD
- 500gb 7200rpm (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) - Default (SKU - S5R207)
- Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included) (SKU - S7R455)
- No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
- No Back Up Hard Drive
- NO External USB Optical Drive
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- No Back Up Software
- Bluetooth Included (See Wireless Network Section Below)
- Sager - Intel® Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth (SKU - S8R111)
- No Network Accessory
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- No TV Tuner
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- No Carrying Case
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- No Car Adapter
- No Spare AC Adapter
- No Dock/Hub/Adapter
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- No Headset
- No External Keyboard
- Steelseries Chiclet Backlit Keyboard (adds 4-7 business days)
- No External Mouse
- No Notebook Cooler
- No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
- No Operating System Redline Boost
- ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit (64&32-Bit CD Included) + MS Office Starter 2010 -[ Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for $14.99 (Directly through Microsoft) ]
- No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
- No Office Software
- No Software Bundle
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
- No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
- No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
- No Xotic PC Gear
Promotions: $50 OFF Configurations Over $1500
Display: 15.6" 1920 x 1080 FHD LED Backlit Matte Display
Processor: Intel® Core i7-3610QM, 6MB L3 Cache, 2.3-3.3GHz
Memory: (12GB) 12288MB, PC3-12800/1600MHz DDR3 - 3 SO-DIMM
Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 660M (Kepler) 1GB GDDR5
Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA 300
Optical Drive Bay: 8X Multi DVD+/-R/RW RAM Dual-Layer Drive
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium; 64-bit
Wireless: Intel® 6235 Advanced-N 802.11A/B/G/N LAN and Bluetooth Card
Cooling: IC Diamond 7 Thermal Compound, CPU & GPU
Keyboard: English: US & Canada
Power Cord: US & Canada
AC Adapter: Full Range AC-in 100~240V, 50~60Hz, 180W, DC output 19V, 9.47A
Branding: MALIBAL
Build Time: 5-7 Business Days (Estimated Time)
Warranty: LIFETIME Ltd. Labor and 1 Year Parts Warranty with 24/7 Support (USA)
Extras: Standard Black Carrying Case
So here are the differences -
XoticPC:
-1333MHz 8GB RAM (gets me another $50 off for downgrading from 1600MHz)
+Steelseries Keyboard
~GTX 670m
+Free shipping
Malibal:
+1600 MHz 12GB RAM
-Stock Keyboard
~GTX 660m
~Black Carrying Case (doesn't really matter to me since I'm getting a new backpack anyway)
-NOT free shipping (a $50 value QQ)
Now here's the thing. I actually prefer to get the 660m because I am OK with compromising 10-15% on graphics performance if it means cooler temps and slightly better battery life, not to mention newer architecture. There is a possibility I will upgrade the GPU myself a couple years down the line anyway. The stock keyboard I can live with as well, but of course the Steelseries is definitely something I would like. And of course, there's the 8GB vs 12GB difference. Also I've heard that people like XoticPC better.
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awakeN, can you confirm what manufacture your screen is from, is it AUO? Did you get the high gamut?
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No I'm not employed by xoticpc lol. I didn't even order mine from them. I was saying he should add in a 256GB later himself to save money
I wouldn't buy an SSD from the resellers as they overprice them.
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I would put a big -1 against ordering from Malibal. http://forum.notebookreview.com/reseller-feedback-forum/670809-malibal-my-review.html#post8639362
Their reps are extremely miserable and not entirely helpful, just trust me and call Xotic's sales team. They actually sound happy to help. I've just got all these freebies from Malibal because of the delay that I still am going to stay with them. I'll just make myself happy by hopefully turning everyone who is on the fence away from Malibal.
Oh yea, and there forum is down due to mysterious causes that just happened to show up when people started receiving their laptops horribly out of order. One of the first to receive their laptop ordered a week into June. -
Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll stick to XoticPC then. I can always upgrade the RAM myself and GPU as well. But the keyboard is probably something I can't do without more knowledge.
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Honestly the 7970m is worth the cost, just go and look at a benchmark comparison of the 660 vs it. Its more than double I believe. $200 for being able to absolutely whatever you want the best for the next 2 years, and still viable for years after that.
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Hey guys I was wondering if anyone has experience with both keyboards? The steel series vs the stock. Do either have different key arrangements and if they do which is a better set up?
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One was on the floor of a van which was being driven over a not so good road... when I came to open it up from sleep it blue screened and wouldnt boot... I tried to reload windows which worked then when it started to transfer often used files to the SSD cache it just blue screened again.
One was in my laptop bag when I knocked it off a chair on the train. Turned the laptop on and drive error please insert drive type message.
Never had a problem with my standard non-hybrid momentus disk and I fell off my bike with that in my laptop in my backpack.
I dont think the heads parking were a problem... I think that the SSD circuitry in this drive is delicate and doesnt like shock. I did notice a label on the last drive with a shock warning. I'm sure it wasn't there on the first 2.
My ASUS F3Sv took one hell of a beating in 5 years! Still semi works which is a shock when I look at the miles it did in my car, on my back, on bike, plane etc. -
Ok most hard drives don't take well to being dropped off couches or knocked off a chair....
I thought it was basic knowledge that you put your laptop in a safe place and don't drop it or let it bump around like crazy.
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Thank goodness for SSDs
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I know, however accidents happen and you would expect that as a primarily portable application that this type of drive would be a bit more resiliant to shock. My still functional non-hybrid Seagate momentus drive went through a lot worse accidents and a lot more bumps and never had any issues. 3 consecutive times took out a Momentus XT hybrid and they werent really bad drops. -
I ordered 5/28 and my credit card was not processed and my order put into phase 2 (XoticPc BTW) until 6/20. Almost a month to process a freaking order (Although an Xotic Sales Rep told me they could not charge cards until the new 7970m's came in, i still don't know as to why my order wasn't processed until 8 days after the cards arrived)
Anyway, earlier in this forum someone had said that they ordered 6/8, and their order was expected to arrive at their doorstep by 6/24 (i think)
I was kinda angry because this person had ordered after me, yet gets their laptop waaay faster than I did.
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What are you all running for RAM? I'm speccing out NP9150s and was wondering if you guys were running 1600mhz ram or saving money with the 1333mhz ram? Does the (slight?) speed increase outweigh the money savings?
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got an email with this today from xoticpc
@n0f3ai2 the ram downgrade has negligible performance change
i did it to save the 50 bucks
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Sager NP9150
Matte Screen
750gb 7200rpm
8gb 1600mhz
IC Diamond
i7 3610QM
AMD Radeon HD 7970m
Thank you to everybody on NBR! If it weren't for this forum I wouldn't even know that Sager existed, much less decided to actually buy one.
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Thanks birdsonbat. Anyone have any whims on their screen choice? Glare or matte?
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Thanks birdsonbat, I would ask XoticPc to hurry with my order, but i feel like they might spit on it before they ship it (haha, jokes), or even the increase rate of production would cause more faults to be in the laptop (dead pixels, non responsive keys, who knows?)
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Matte: I believe that it diffuses light as it hits the screen(correct me if i'm wrong) so that it would be easier to work in conditions where there might be light directly on your screen, or just brighter light conditions. I haven't used this type of screen for a while, but i would say it's worth the extra bank.
Super Matt + Super Glare: These are for the photoshop-peoples, i know that they have 'advanced' colors that are great for color correcting or something or other. But to the average and maybe heavy gamer, i don't believe that it will make much of a difference.
BTW I went w/ the normal Matte screen.
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If you buy an operating system from xotic when creating your build does it come preloaded or do you install it yourself? Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit (64&32-Bit CD Included) + MS Office Starter 2010 for 80 bucks seems to be a decent deal considering Microsoft itself sells its cheapest student version with out MS Office Starter for 65, but since I want to add SSD myself and run the OS off that would I be better off downloading and installing myself or getting it from xotic?
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I managed to buy both windows 7 ultimate 64bit and office professional through my university for 10$ each
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I have a question about the two USB 3.0 ports on the left hand side, could you plug in USB 2.0 devices to them or is there only one USB 2.0 port?
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USB 3.0 is backward compatible so you can use the USB 3.0 ports for 1.0 & 2.0 devices.
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Hey guys I'm finishing the configuration of my order. My last question is on RAM. Do you guys think I should get:
1) 8GB 1333MHz RAM and $50 off (-50)
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So I pulled the trigger. Since this is my first gaming laptop and first experience with Sager and XoticPC, I really hope they live up to their hype.
Specs:
1 x Sager NP9150 / Clevo P150EM () = $1,529.00
Xotic Gear No Xotic PC Gear
Outside of U.S. Shipping Coverage No Outside of US Shipping Coverage
White Glove Premium Packaging No thanks, standard double boxed packaging is okay with my order
Warranty LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
Software Bundle (Not Installed) No Software Bundle
Microsoft Office Software No Office Software
Antivirus Software No Antivirus Essentials Software Bundle
Operating System ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit (64&32-Bit CD Included) + MS Office Starter 2010 -[ Upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for $14.99 (Directly through Microsoft) ]
OS Redline Boost No Operating System Redline Boost
XOTIC PC Redline Boost Extreme Performance No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
Notebook Cooler No Notebook Cooler
Mouse Accessories No External Mouse
Keyboard (Internal - Laptop) Steelseries Chiclet Backlit Keyboard (adds 4-7 business days)
Keyboard (External) No External Keyboard
Headsets No Headset
Fingerprint Reader Integrated Fingerprint Reader
Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters No Dock/Hub/Adapter
Spare AC Adapter No Spare AC Adapter
Car Adapter No Car Adapter
Battery Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
Case No Carrying Case
Sound Card Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
TV Tuner No TV Tuner
Camera Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
Wireless Network Accessories No Network Accessory
Wireless Network Sager - Intel® Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth (SKU - S8R111)
Bluetooth Bluetooth Included (See Wireless Network Section Below)
Back Up Software No Back Up Software
Memory Card Reader Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
External USB Optical Drive NO External USB Optical Drive
External Hard Drive (Back Up) No Back Up Hard Drive
Optical Drive Bay Hard Drive Caddy No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
Optical Drive Bay Combo Dual Layer SuperMulti DVDRW/CDRW Drive w/ Software (When selecting a Hard Drive in the Optical Bay, No Optical Drive is Included) (SKU - S7R455)
Primary Hard Drive 500gb 7200rpm (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) - Default (SKU - S5R207)
mSATA SSD Drive ( Slot 1 ) No mSATA SSD
Exterior Finish Standard Finish
Branding Sager Branding
Ram 8GB - DDR3 1333MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) - SPECIAL! (SKU - S4P369)
External Mobile Display No External Mobile Display
External Display Video Adapters No Video Adapter
Graphics Video Card nVidia GeForce GTX 670M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus Technology [User Upgradeable] (SKU S3R517)
Thermal Compound - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
Processor Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core i7-3610QM (2.3GHz - 3.3GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU S2R174)
Dead Pixel Warranty Standard Dead Pixel Policy
Monitor Calibration NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
Display 15.6 FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen (SKU - S1R316)
Free Shipping FREE!! Continental (U.S. Lower 48 - UPS Ground Only) Ground Shipping on ALL Sager Laptops (Enter Coupon Code: "SAGERFREESHIP" during order process)
Thanks to everyone for their advice and help!
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