*** Official Clevo P150EM / Sager NP9150 Owner's Lounge ***

You're right-I do do that, but I tend to set my instant casts on E (such as Kidney Shot on my Rogue, or PW: Shield on my Priest), which I use many times while moving.

Is there any sort of way I can use a program to "test" this ghosting problem on my current PC?

 

So, I got my system (lotus p150em se) from Malibal on thursday. I've since installed Win7, loaded all my apps, played games on it, and lugged it through 4 airports to Canada. I love this laptop. Does everything I want and more. it is not noisy or hot or that heavy. Exactly what I expected from a high-end 15.6inch gaming laptop.

But...whats this noise about a steel series, backlit, chiclet/island style keyboard!??? Where was this when I ordered from Malibal!? can this be purchased separately from xoticpc or somewhere else!?

 

We sell them. But the Fn+ keys are not mapped properly for the Sager NP9170, and it will have to be modified to fit.

 

Sorry if this has been answered but is it possible to change the brightness of the backlit keyboard? I always keep my logitech k800 to its lowest setting as I find it distracting on higher settings.

 

I have the 3720qm and the 670 and I max out d3. It doesnt run hot at all, around 60 on the gpu and cpu, in a really hot room. Just make sure you dont block the intake or exhaust vents.

yeah its FN+ - or + on they keypad. You can also turn it on or off with * on the keypad

 

If all you are going to play is Diablo 3 and you don't plan on maxing out or playing games like Battlefield 3 on High then just get a 660m or 670m, both will play D3 maxed out with no lag.

 

Ah, that makes more sense then


EDIT:

To test ghosting you can use this link http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/KeyboardGhostingDemo.mspx

 

two questions

1. Is it mapped properly for the 9150?

2. and can we have pictures? no reseller has posted any pictures of this keyboard. Rep for pics

 

Here's a pic of P150EM and P170EM keyboards (taken from another thread)

http://i.imgur.com/2zMRW.jpg

 

1) It will not be mapped properly for the NP9150, as the 9150 should be identical in terms of key mapping to the 9170.

2) If you would like pics of the keyboard installed in either the NP9170 or the NP9150 please check out this thread on the topic http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/658237-msi-steelseries-keyboard-p170em-3.html
You can in page 3 where Mythlogic has a photo up of the SteelSeries keyboard in the 9150 and page 6 has our photo of it in the 9170 and Xotic also posted a comparison of the keyboards.

On page 13, the last page of the thread at the time of this writing, you will also find my conclusions on how they SteelSeries keyboard behaves in the Sager laptop and how the Sager keyboard behaves in an MSI laptop.

 

Anyone wanna hear a totally irrelevant story? I finally made the purchase in my sig on Monday morning (like 12:55) and I was so excited for Xotic to confirm my purchase so it could go on to the building/testing phase.
I waited all day for my order to be confirmed and continuously checked my email and my on-site account. At about 11:00 at night i was starting to freak out because i thought that maybe something was wrong with my credit card and whatnot.
Just 10 minutes ago i thought i would put in a quick call as well.
Then I realized.
It was Monday.
Like, Monday, May 28....
MEMORIAL FREAKING DAY.
OMG. I almost called Xotic because they didn't confirm my purchase.
When It Was Their Day Off.
I, am officially a genius. lol.

Anyway, disaster averted, thank god.
As a quick side note, i would also like to thank EVERYONE here on NBR for their help on my laptop issues and making the right decisions, seriously, if you guys weren't here, i would be at least be spending an extra 300-400$ Thank you all SO so much. For Realz.
I anxiously await my new NP9150!

 

Congrats on your order Dan1107!
Dont worry you're not the only one who forgot it was Memorial day We'll have the order processed as soon as we can and will be in touch if any questions come up.

 

i believe xotic only charges your credit card AFTER you laptop is built and ready to ship... so don't freak out when they don't charge you for another three weeks if you chose the 7970m

 

I have read that in Alienware M17xR4 w/: Radeon 7970M you cand disable Enduro and the graphic card will perform much better. Is this possible with Sager NP9150?

 

Haha thanks Xotic!

 

This might be a stupid question, but I'm planning on installing an mSATA in my soon-to-be-received notebook and can't figure out where it's supposed to go. I've heard installing it doesn't require much more than screwing it in, but does anyone know where I should actually be looking to do this? The slot for the mSATA is weirdly hardly mentioned in the otherwise detailed instruction manual.

 

The mSATA is located in the back panel of the notebook just between the battery and the processor fan. Its a small card with chips on it that looks simular to the WiFi card.

 

This is a post over in another thread by kaworu876 http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/661430-update-radeon-7970m-sager-resellers-119.html:

I'm sorry, I was more talking about the way that the HD4000 and 7970m were set up on the Alienware vs Clevo systems, and how Alienware users could switch to exclusively using the 7970m, whereas I could not with my Clevo. And that this mattered because AW users reported better performance with exclusive use of the 7970m, as opposed to having GPU-switching enabled via Enduro. All I could tell, since Enduro is permanently activated on the Clevo, was that my performance specs and benchmarks were closer to what the AW users got with Enduro disabled, whereas I had Enduro enabled, and I couldn't really figure out why this was.

Now seeing that video, and how the M17x uses a toggle key combination a hard restart to actually perform the GPU switch, it makes me realize that the two systems must be set up somewhat different in terms of the motherboard and/or BIOS, since there is no feature even comparable to that with my Clevo and its GPUs. Which makes me think that the performance loss in Enduro that AW users get really is just exclusive to them, and does not extend to the Clevos with the 7970m.

This is aside from all other supposed issues with the 7970m, but I wouldn't think that what that youtube user is experiencing with his M17x has anything to do with the Clevo 7970m debacle. The issue with Clevo has to do with third-party components exclusive to the 7970m chips that *they* developed, and any AW problems would be exclusive to their company. As far as anyone knows, the actual chips supplied by AMD are fine.

edit: Just to summarize: I have a Clevo laptop w/ 7970m. It works perfectly. There is no significant performance loss from using Enduro. All the GPU benchmarks I've run have matched or exceeded the maximum of what I've seen posted from the M17x on notebookcheck, regardless of whether Enduro was enabled or disabled on the M17x.

 

I think I have officialy lost my mind. Just got done putting in an order for a chassis upgrade on my np8150 to the np9150 shell.

All just for a Backlit keyboard + optimus all for $1020.00

I feel happy for the upgrade but at the same time my wallet hurts so so so bad! Luckily mythlogic was able to comfort and guide me throughout the whole process

 

Why don't you sell your old rig for like $500-600, then add that $1020 and get a $1520 new 9150 ?

 

I'm not worried about the performance, because even with the enduros decrease in performance the card still is a beast, but I'm worried about the reliability of the laptop itself:

"The failure rate we've seen on these cards has been far too high for a retail product to have. During the last two weeks there's been a constant back and forth with our GPU vendor and PCB vendor to determine the cause of the issue, they believe they've narrowed it down to the 3rd party components on the board - specifically the VR (voltage regulator) controllers. The actual silicon of the 7970M is very stable, this is a matter of the components that support it having a higher than acceptable failure rate. Current shipments have been withheld by factory for extensive QA, including complete X-rays of the cards for component inspection. This is the cause of the statement that's been flying around forums regarding Clevo's second shipment of cards being delayed.

[email protected]
Regards,

Dan"

 

This was a very tempting option, but after spending $2700 on 8150 I couldnt bring myself to sell it so cheap. On top of that the current parts are more then enough to last me a good 4 years and ivy bridge and this gen gpu's just don't seem to be worth the upgrade yet. I already have the old shell sold for 300. In the end the upgrade will cost me about $720, but i think I'll live Xp.

O and 100 of that is from the ss keyboard as well

 

hi guy I just receive my unit today. If anybody has any question, I will try to answer

 

what are the specs on your unit? do you have the 7970m graphics card?

 

yes sir, hey man can you help me something? I tried to install window through usb dvd drive, but I can't find any usb boot option at all in bios. Only hard drive boot. Help me!

 

That seems odd.

Make sure your USB is in the machine and then enter BIOS with F2/F12 (whatever works) and then the "USB Storage Device" boot option should be there.

Should look something like this:

SOURCE: MaximumPC

 

My order is on hold, Xotic's out of the Bigfoot 1103's and no ETA on when they have more ...has this happened before?

 

I used the boot option. It still show only two harddrive and no usb option at all ?

 

Just make a CD and use that?

 

I don't have optical drive in my laptop, so I am using usb dvd drive. The bios doesn't detect any usb or cd in boot. It's only detect my two hard drive, ssd and hard drive on optical bay...

 

Every reseller occassionaly runs out of stock of certain products; thats part of any business sadly. The Bigfoot 1103's have been in high demand because they help you get low latency [lag] on servers when gaming. So some resellers have sold out their stocks of them.

You can get the stock card and buy a Bigfoot 1103 later and install it yourself; it's a very easy swap; should take less than 10 minutes to do.

Also Juag1337's advice is pretty much thet only thing to do. If that doesn't work then there may be a more serious problem with your BIOS/Motherboard.

Also make sure on the USB drive that it is a .ISO / Bootable version of Windows and not just a file. You have to have burned it as an ISO to have it recognized as a bootable drive in most cases.

If nothing works though; burn the Windows to a CD/DVD as an ISO and run it in the CD ROM drive; if you don't have one on the laptop you can borrow an external CD ROM drive from a friend or buy one for like $40 at a store.

 

I'm not sure what steps you have taken to create a bootable USB drive. You can try a few of these links for suggestions though: Maximum PC | How To: Install Windows 7 from a USB Key! - Page 1

Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool - CNET Download.com

Lastly, if you need the Windows 7 ISO, you can get it here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/windows-os-software/604187-legal-download-digitalriver-windows-7-sp1-13-languages.html

 

ok I got it I didn't fit the plug on usb with dvd drive properly. My bad

 

yay! good for you, when you get everything set up throw us some non-synthetic benchmarks, also some temp readings, and some fan noisiness, comments on the size of the machine, if you can some pictures really showing exactly how thick/wide/long it is (i know that sounds awfully wrong) Preferably it sitting on a desk.

 

Wow hahah; funny mistake thailandgod.

 

LOL

wasn't thinking about it that way until you mentioned that it sounded wrong.

I should be getting my NP9150 tmrw, I'll post pics and the rest that you wanted him to do as well

 

Yeah i know, it didn't ring that way at first but i re-read it and it was like oh lord... Plus my mind is numb from getting home and receiving an awesome welcome from battle.net maintenance on DIII : ((

 

Too excited I will post my unboxing video soon (Quick one)

 

Awesome want to see!

 

Are the np9150s able to switch between nvidia and amd gpus? I'm planning on purchasing a 9150 with the 670m and upgrading layer on to the 7970m. If they are not compatible will the 9150 be compatible with the 680m when nvidia gets around to releasing it?

 

it all depends if clevo will provide a BIOS that will run the upgrade card. also as long as the future cards will be 3.0 type MXM cards

 

ok here guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w67YC0UiiEc

Any general question you can ask me

 

you sound like arnold swarzeneger at the start.

 

Thanks for the video, you can refer to my questions i asked last page ^^

 

wow that made me nauseous (get a tri-pod or something)

thanks for the vid

 

Ok so here are the picture comparison. I hope it will give you a picture. I tried my best

ImageShack Album - 8 images

This is the temperature after turn laptop on for few hour (not gaming yet ;D)

I find out that this laptop has some problem in it. It seemed finger scanner never work at all (Even I already install the driver and use the software) Second, I can't enable bluetooth for some reason. This cause me not to be able to install bluetooth driver as well. Any suggesstion, my be I will try out game tomorrow. You guy can request which game you wanna see lol

 

@thailandgod
Battlefield 3, and.... Batman Arkham City

Also, do you have any comments on the sound of the speakers?

 

What wireless card do you have? These machines only support Bluetooth if you bought a wifi card that supports it. (The Killer N cards do NOT support, the Following intel cards also do not 6200, 6250, 6300. These Intel cards DO support BT 6230, 6235, 2230) There are of course many more of each.

 

omg seriously i have killer n 1103 - - that suck

 

Just a couple questions:

1) Is the stock keyboard backlit? Kind of confused from the tech specs.

2) Is it easy to upgrade to a 7970m later on? Don't have much cash on hand but will in the following months.

3) How are the back to school deals in August? Student here, so kind of important.