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    *** Official Clevo P150EM / Sager NP9150 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ryan, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. micahmatthew

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    Tigerdirect
     
  2. reechings

    reechings Notebook Evangelist

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    Try pro-star.com. I checked pretty much all the resellers and they were equal or better and more importantly they offered UPS Priority delivery for only $55 to Canada. I also found this code that takes off $60: prostargoogle
    I haven't actually placed the order with them yet but they're at the top of the list when I do.
     
  3. ice2642

    ice2642 Notebook Consultant

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    I like the results.

    in low quality, you have less FPS becouse 88FPS or 95 FPS, you will see the same. your eyes can not see more than 60FPS. but in ultra quality, the HD7970 get near the more FPS with enduro ON.

    you save batery and the computer will work fine to play.

    not to make unnecessary FPS for a showman talk about for your friends.

    []'s
     
  4. jaug1337

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    Be careful saying that... very is a strong word, so is reliable, M4 is neither haha but it's okay, planning on getting one myself since a sale just went live ;)
     
  5. tehdewm

    tehdewm Notebook Guru

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    Yeah you will not see a difference unless you have a 120 hz screen. Please do not state human eyes can not see over 60 fps. Human eyes do not even see in frames anyway.

    Individuals may not be able to perceive 60 vs 120, but it is possible to tell the difference for some people, such as myself.
     
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    As you cannot see it, you do notice if a games runs 60 FPS or 500 FPS.. is it just me?
     
  7. MrLibya

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    I didn't put a harddrive caddy in mine and kept it with the dvd drive. Can I later still install a ssd or hdd
     
  8. GTMonster

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    Just switch the optical drive out for a hard disk caddy then install a 2.5" drive in there. Its pretty easy and can be found on page 6-14+ of the latest destruction manual off Clevo's web site.
     
  9. Nehalem

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    Yeah, there really needs to be a Snopes entry on the 60hz computer screen myth and the human eye. People need to stop spewing it like they know what they're talking about. /rant off.
     
  10. extide

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    This is correct. In any case, motion looks fluid at 30+ FPS, and with 60+ fps you should never dip below 30 so it will always appear fluid. With a 60Hz screen you will not be able to display more than 60fps, however human eyes can catch something blinked on a screen as quickly a 1/300th of a second or less, if the conditions are right. Comparing human eyes to frames per second just is a bad analogy.
     
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    120hz monitors are even catching on for spreadsheet use because they give the brain a more smooth experience :)
     
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    From Sager:

    "I want to inform you of a minor delay we have experienced with the 2nd shipment of the AMD 7970M GPU cards. Clevo has found a minor issues in the second shipment of the GPUs from AMD, and as a result our 2nd shipment has been held back. Clevo has already setup emergency meetings with AMD Asia HQ. Both parties are working together closely to rapidly resolve the issue.

    We will be receiving daily updates from Clevo regarding this setback. We will keep you informed of any new information as soon as we receive it."
     
  14. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    ^ what a bugger. But at least they inform us :)


    Sent from my wholly molly new iPad using Tapatalk
     
  15. micahmatthew

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    This is extremely saddening. I was told by Eurocom I would get my laptop with 3610 and 7970m by the end of this week. Freaking heck!!! -_-
     
  16. Mtl171

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    Isn't that good news?
     
  17. thailandgod

    thailandgod Notebook Consultant

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    I think he means that his product might be delayed instead of getting it this week.
     
  18. micahmatthew

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    Apparently with Eurocom it is the 1st shipment for my order not second so i'll still get it this week :p
     
  19. thailandgod

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    I feel you pain dude. I also wait for my laptop. It is in production phase right now. At first I thought that it will arrive by this week or next week. After this news, I think it will arrive more than 2 weeks. Moreover, I also pre-order beginning of this month and almost a month of waiting....
     
  20. reechings

    reechings Notebook Evangelist

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    So does anyone have the 7970m yet and is it worth the wait (I'm sure it is)!
     
  21. Heihachi_1337

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    Some people have already received their laptop with the 7970M and have already announced as much in these forums.

    Those individuals are likely busy getting everything installed and configured their way before they get their reviews and posts up.
     
  22. awakeN

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    Hopefully I get moved to phase 4 tonight... absolutely need this laptop by the end of this week...
     
  23. DSx1if30wn3r

    DSx1if30wn3r Notebook Enthusiast

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    Apparently, UPS should have already picked up my laptop a couple hours ago (according to XoticPC). If so, I'll have my laptop tomorrow!! And a 7-day weekend too!!


    - DSx1if30wn3r
     
  24. urmystlkal

    urmystlkal Notebook Consultant

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    F u.

    :)
     
  25. awakeN

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    dont worry when you get yours you can laugh at him because you have a 7970M and he has a 675M.

    But the 7 day weekend... :<
     
  26. thailandgod

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    still there is no sign of shipping on my unit sign.... I asked Justin and he said that I might be on the second batch of 7970m - -
     
  27. reechings

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    Fair enough, I haven't seen any announcements in this thread specifically but am looking forward to it.
     
  28. newwavepromotions

    newwavepromotions Newbie

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    getting this setup:

    Optical Drive Bay 6x Blu-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive - Special! (SKU - S7P557)

    Primary Hard Drive 750gb 7200rpm (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) (SKU - S5R306)

    Wireless Network Sager - Intel® Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth (SKU - S8R111)

    mSATA SSD Drive ( Slot 1 ) 40GB Intel 310 Series mSATA SSD - Preconfigured for Intel SRT ( Smart Response Technology )

    Ram 16GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4P761)

    Graphics Video Card nVidia GeForce GTX 670M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology [User Upgradeable] (SKU – S3R517)

    Thermal Compound - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU

    Processor Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3610QM (2.3GHz - 3.3GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU – S2R174)

    Display 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen (SKU - S1R316)


    ram might be overkill lol but i'm planning on using dragon dictation a lot while having skype, trillian, firefox/chrome w/40-60 tabs, filezilla, notepad++, photoshop, thunderbird, + a few other misc programs open and i don't want a damned bit of lag trying to multitask

    full details:
    Operating System ~Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Installed (64&32-Bit CD Included) w/ Drivers & Utilities CD's + Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - Included with OS Purchase
    OS Redline Boost No Operating System Redline Boost
    XOTIC PC Redline Boost™ Extreme Performance No Thanks, Please do not Overclock my system (Overclocking will add 3-6 business days to build time)
    Notebook Cooler No Notebook Cooler
    Mouse Accessories No External Mouse
    Keyboard (Internal - Laptop) Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Backlit Keyboard
    Keyboard (External) No External Keyboard
    Headsets No Headset
    Fingerprint Reader Integrated Fingerprint Reader
    Port Replicator / Dock / Adapters No Dock/Hub/Adapter
    Spare AC Adapter No Spare AC Adapter
    Car Adapter No Car Adapter
    Battery Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
    Case Basic Black Business Case - Included
    Sound Card Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
    TV Tuner No TV Tuner
    Camera Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
    Wireless Network Accessories No Network Accessory
    Wireless Network Sager - Intel® Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth (SKU - S8R111)
    Bluetooth Bluetooth Included (See “Wireless Network” Section Below)
    Back Up Software No Back Up Software
    Memory Card Reader Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
    External USB Optical Drive NO External USB Optical Drive
    External Hard Drive (Back Up) No Back Up Hard Drive
    Optical Drive Bay Hard Drive Caddy No Extra Optical Bay Hard Drive Caddy
    Optical Drive Bay 6x Blu-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive - Special! (SKU - S7P557)
    Primary Hard Drive 750gb 7200rpm (Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache) (SKU - S5R306)
    mSATA SSD Drive ( Slot 1 ) 40GB Intel 310 Series mSATA SSD - Preconfigured for Intel SRT ( Smart Response Technology )
    Exterior Finish Standard Finish
    Branding Remove All Branding
    Ram 16GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4P761)
    External Mobile Display No External Mobile Display
    External Display Video Adapters No Video Adapter
    Graphics Video Card nVidia GeForce GTX 670M 1,536MB PCI-Express GDDR5 DX11 with Optimus™ Technology [User Upgradeable] (SKU – S3R517)
    Thermal Compound - IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
    Processor Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3610QM (2.3GHz - 3.3GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU – S2R174)
    Dead Pixel Warranty Standard Dead Pixel Policy
    Monitor Calibration NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
    Display 15.6” FHD 16:9 LED Backlit Wide screen (1920x1080) Super Clear Matte Type Screen (SKU - S1R316)
     
  29. awakeN

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    :( still awaiting an answer from justin... when did you order?
     
  30. micahmatthew

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    Yeah I heard from Eurocom; mine is going to be the first batch of 7970m, so I should still get it by this friday, next wednesday at the latest, super freaking hyped :D Really can't wait.
     
  31. thailandgod

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    I actually ordered on May 1st and change to phase two on May 16.
     
  32. DrMcNinja

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    In this case, to me it seems like if you ever get a lag problem, it would be due to the CPU and not the RAM. But hopefully 3610 can handle it.

    Or am I wrong?
     
  33. reechings

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    Did I hear correctly that there is a NBR discount from some resellers?
     
  34. awakeN

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    yes, xotic pc is one of them
     
  35. Heihachi_1337

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    That is correct. You will want to contact the resellers to find out how much of a discount you can get.
     
  36. awakeN

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    Wow, I ordered on April 29th and got moved to Phase 2 on May 18th. I really hope my laptop will ship out today >< god I HAVE to HAVE this laptop for memorial weekend. Otherwise I'll be sitting on memorial day with nothing to do on my retarded dell laptop.
     
  37. ice2642

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    the delay is just with the ATI or the nVidia gtx675m have this delay too ?

    I ask about the time for i receive my NP9150, and the answer is the same, start of june, but instead day 5, the ppl say day 12. one week more waiting :(

    []'s
     
  38. awakeN

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    It should only apply to people ordering the 7970M. However, the NP9150 itself is in high demand already, but you shouldn't experience the same delays.
     
  39. Jonny T

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    Has anyone tracked the best price and discounts for a P150 yet in the UK/UK Delivery with the 7970m?

    If anyone could post up their best prices or PM me, I would be hugely grateful.

    Many thanks.
     
  40. ice2642

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    It is a good idea change the order from 7970 to gtx675m to speed up the delivery of the notebook? or the best is take it easy and wait ?

    is very hard wait ehhehehehe

    BR
     
  41. DSx1if30wn3r

    DSx1if30wn3r Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well Sager actually just recently said there was a defect in the second batch of 7970M's. So it could take a few more weeks.


    - DSx1if30wn3r
     
  42. micahmatthew

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    so glad I ordered may 1 so I got in first batch of the 7970s
     
  43. ice2642

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    my order was on 05/14.

    it get the first or second batch of 7970 ?

    BR
     
  44. awakeN

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    definitely not the first, maybe even the 3rd batch


    did u order from xotic?
     
  45. micahmatthew

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    Mine is from eurocom . May 1 order so they said its first batch . My estimated finish is this week so hopefully I get it by this Saturday. If not Monday o r Tuesday would be great. I should get another update tmmrw. If it comes early next week its not too bad I'll be busy partying this weekend ha.
     
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    Can anyone comment on this laptop noise level? I plan to take this laptop to work and I wouldn't want to disturb my colleagues when I play some Diablo 3 :).
     
  47. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    when you opt for the killer 1103 or intel 6300, do resellers add the extra 3rd antenna in ?
     
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    the size of these laptops would lead me to believe that the cooling is much better than your standard lenovo/dell/hp/apple laptops. is this true? are the heatsink+fans more heavy duty?
     
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    Just as I am thinking how great this laptop is, i fire up SWTOR and realize that i can't strafe forward-right and jump at the same time... Keyboard ghosting. This really sucks. Think this is a deal-breaker.
     
  50. Donald@Paladin44

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    We don't have those other brands in front of us so it is difficult to make a side by side comparison, however the cooling system on the Sager NP9150 is quite robust and you should not expect any overheating issues.
     
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