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    *** Official Clevo P150EM / Sager NP9150 Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Ryan, Apr 7, 2012.

  1. contradude

    contradude Notebook Consultant

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    I did a return on my np8170 and my np9150 with ivy bridge and a 675m has shown up. totally in love with it... pretty much all it's missing is a 7970m and I'm all set (Red Team FTW). benchmarked slightly higher in 3dmark11 than my np8170 with a 6990m but seems to destroy at battlefield 3.

    Ivy bridge seems alright by me but I did the return to get optimus. muxless video switching blows my mind when it's happening to flagship GPUs
     
  2. c69k

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    Hi, my setup from PCSPECIALIST (U.K.) with AMD 7970M (on preorder) should be here before end of May.



    off topic: I googled but found nothing, believe me.
    This laptop has 4 memory banks, I have 2x4 Gig memory sticks. In theory, would 4x2 Gig sticks perform faster on this chipset?
     
  3. awakeN

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    yup, im not going to survive the wait. still another 3 weeks ><
     
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    Yeah, I'm leaning towards the 750GB HD + 64 GB mSATA SSD set up as an SRT. Not as fast as the full SSD but perhaps the best compromise.

    I was tempted to just move to the 17", as much as I like my current 17" on my old M1710 Dell, but I think I'm going to stick with the 15" screen. Everyone seems to prefer the matte, so I may try that, though I'm wary since I'm used to the glossy screen and need as sharp as I can get for the video editing that will be a primary use for the machine.
     
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    If you're used to glossy, grab the glossy. You're the one who has to like it :) youll be blown away by the SRT. If you've never used a ssd, even the speed gain from the caching will be awesome. My ssd is 'only' operating at SATA II speeds, and I still get excited when I can turn my laptop on in under 20 seconds lol. It's pretty awesome, but once you try it, there's no going back. It's pure torture waiting on a plain HD.. Blah!
     
  6. iJonneh

    iJonneh Newbie

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    Hi!
    I just discovered NBR from Reddit and r/suggestalaptop and i have a few questions about the P150EM. I'm a university student to-be this fall and I'm going to be getting one of these fantastic machines to crank out late-night essays and pwn dem nubz. Currently I'm looking to buy through Malibal because I think their name and design look the coolest.

    My questions are,
    Is getting the 1866Mhz ram upgrade have a noticeable performance increase over the stock 1600Mhz ram (8GB)?

    I'm interested in getting an SSD, but I'm not sure what the best configuration would be. 500gb HD + 60 mSATA SSD or 240gb SSD? Mostly want the ssd for faster load times in games how quiet/durable it is, so i'm leaning toward that.

    And finally, is the 95% gamut matte screen upgrade really worth the $100 and is it that much better than the stock matte screen? I'm not dead set on pretty graphics, but it would be nice on games and for movies.

    Thanks for reading and any advice is much appreciated!
    -Jon
     
  7. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    Nope, you won't notice a difference unless you're a benchmarker.

    240GB ssd is going to be faster, but also much more expensive. If you've never had a ssd, you'll be plenty happy with the 500Gb + 60gb mSATA as a caching drive. It's still going to be quite fast compared to a lone platter drive. Ssd will be quiet as there are no moving parts, and will increase battery life. I cannot comment on how much though. Don't plan on anything obscene though.

    As you said, it'll be nice for games and movies. It's really up to you. Plenty of people are happy with the stock screen. I had the matte 95% for a while and it was gorgeous. I think I might go with the glossy 95% in my upcoming order though, just because I've gotten pretty used to the glossy in my current machine.
     
  8. jaug1337

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    Congratulations! It's going to be a choice you wont regret ;)

    Still on topic thought. The only PROPER thing 4x2 will do instead of the 2x4 is it'll stay less heated.

    But do keep in mind that, four sticks would cause more strain on the memory controller and motherboard chipset.
    It would take slightly longer for the CPU to add and retrieve data from four sticks as opposed to two.

    For this reason, 2 x 4 GB would be faster then 4 x 2 GB.


    SOURCE: memory - Is it better to have four times 2 GB or two times 4 GB of RAM? - Super User

    No need to take credit for someone else's answer :) tl;dr 2x4 is the way to go.
     
  9. Tropicalfire

    Tropicalfire Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey guys. i have 3 questions which will decide whether i will purchase a 150 or not.
    1) What is the max battery life reachable? with gtx 675
    2) Does the pc have any overheating issues?
    3) Is it noise?
     
  10. SocaJam

    SocaJam Notebook Consultant

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    I have a quick question as well! Is the mSATA slot in the np9150 able to use a SATA III mSata drive?
     
  11. adversive

    adversive Notebook Enthusiast

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    It can use a SATA III mSATA drive, but at SATA II speeds.
     
  12. SocaJam

    SocaJam Notebook Consultant

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    Thank a million! :)
     
  13. OC-Freak

    OC-Freak Notebook Deity

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    You could check out this review, it gives an indication at least: Review Schenker XMG P502 PRO (Clevo P150EM) Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

    1: idle and everything off: 5h 29m. wlan websurfing: 4h 21m. Load: 1h 36min.
    2: No the cooling system is very solid, only bottom gets a bit on the hot side.
    3: Yes with up to 53.6dB noise level it's one of the most noisy laptops on the market. This has been the "standard" for clevo for quite some time - solid cooling and performance comes at a "solid" noise level - unfortunately.
     
  14. Tropicalfire

    Tropicalfire Notebook Enthusiast

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    Love you so much dude. 1 last thing bout the noise. Is it loud even if i am websurfing for example?
    Thank you SO much for answering. There should be more kind people like you. :)
     
  15. OC-Freak

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    Not unless you are really picky, during light load the noise level is low, but fan tends to spin up slightly for shorter periods which you can hear. But other than that it's fine at low loads.
     
  16. c69k

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    Thank you +rep
     
  17. WeeDv2

    WeeDv2 Notebook Consultant

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    But the review shot it going kind of hot.... or im wrong?
     
  18. kimterran

    kimterran Notebook Guru

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    Couple questions, is upgrading the thermal compound worth it, or is the stock just fine. I also don't know much about those hybrid drives. Is getting the hybrid drive gonna make a huge difference than say, a 750gb 7200 rpm drive?
     
  19. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    Not worth it in my opinion, you can do it on your own cheaper and you get to learn how to do it so later you can repeat the process. I would recommend you getting a normal HDD with a mSSD rather than a hybrid. The hybrid costs more


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  20. jrittz

    jrittz Notebook Enthusiast

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    You're not wrong... Sure, it appears to get a little on the warm side but I don't know if it's excessive by any means. I am not aware of any gaming laptop that doesn't get warm/hot, especially if you use it on your lap.
     
  21. E.Blar

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    Not true. There was a fellow back near the SB recall who got a wombat in his :p

    Not sure if you saw my post, I advise a 750GB HDD with a 64GB mSATA SSD.

    I dearly hope you know what those are...

    No, for some reason Mythlogic's P150EM configurator has 2 HDD slots.

    Except for ASUS G5*, Clevo W150ER, and a bunch of other ones.

    Terribly sorry for so many posts, been gone for a week and now my multi-quote button doesn't work :cry:
     
  22. mythlogic

    mythlogic Company Representative

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    Yea you have to take the optical out to get the 2nd hdd in, but yea the W150, and W170 have to actual bays in them

    Also

    O look, a wild 660m appears on the configurators

    /me wonders off
     
  23. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    lollllll


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  24. b33k3rz

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    It's recommended to upgrade to the 7970m. The performance boost over 675m is baffling.
     
  25. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    ^ I will certainly opt for the red team :D . Even the gap between a GT 650m and GTX 660m is so minimal and it uses more POWER and costs the same as GTX 670/570m (current pricing at Mythlogic) or 50$ less (at Eurocom and assuming other popular retailers)


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  26. E.Blar

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    And some stuff got cheaper :)
    So how come my order page isn't reflecting the price drops for the HDD caddy and 675m? It's a $20 difference...
     
  27. hizzaah

    hizzaah Notebook Virtuoso

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    probably should PM or email them about something like that..
     
  28. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    Anyone got a picture of the fan completely removed into components ?
     
  29. w3ak3stl1nk

    w3ak3stl1nk Notebook Consultant

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    Thermal compound is worth it but true worth is piece of mind. But it depend on the laptop manufacturer as some do a good job and some don't. It is highly recommended for alienware as they sometimes have been reported gaps between the cooler and cpu and the quality of their application is questionable. As for the clevo that this question applies to many say not worth it as you can do it yourself. Temp decrease of about 5 degrees depending on the compount comparably... with a decent heatsink. I am not sure about GPU thermal as I have not sure on the comparisons. Most prepaid thermal application does both cpu and gpu. The application is easy, but the setup and application is a lot more of a process than just swapping ram... but that might not be saying much. I get nervous with that component and cleaning the old thermal compound can sometimes be a pain. It is a learning process if you choose the do it yourself path.
     
  30. urmystlkal

    urmystlkal Notebook Consultant

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    I'm planning on doing it myself when the laptop gets here. I have some of the AS Ceramique laying around. Figured there's no point in wasting it and spending money when I already have something.
     
  31. w3ak3stl1nk

    w3ak3stl1nk Notebook Consultant

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    It is kindof fun to crack open a laptop anyhow to see all the components and the circuits and how it is routed on the board and shell. So good luck and should be pretty fun to explore the laptop.
    Try not to loose any screws or drop them somewhere in the case... did that once... a quick hd switch became a full disassembly as it fell behind the GPU cooler... that was not fun... but learned a lot.
     
  32. azara.david

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    Anyone know where to find drivers for the gtx675m? I have looked everywhere with no luck. I found the new 300.34 drivers with modified inf but I have no idea where to pit the IMF file. Any help.would be greatly appreciated! By the way this laptop rocks! I score 4146 on 3dmark 11. It is running games very smoothly. Will be doimg a full review on the sager np9150 this weekend.
     
  33. kimterran

    kimterran Notebook Guru

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    Well I hope nothing drastic happens when I open mine. I am a little confused on whether to replace my primary HD with an SSD or just put an mSATA SSD. Is that too much of a difference?
     
  34. w3ak3stl1nk

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    This problem doesn't apear to be new. Haven't seen a fix yet. Maybe you can push the 580m driver to it since it is a rebrand.
    sata III for main bay and sata II for mSATA. The "too much" part of the difference is your call, but there is a difference.
     
  35. JoshPiger

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    Does anyone have a picture of the Sager next to another laptop? Im planning on buying one because the specs are amazing but I really need something portable and I'm nervous that its going to be a pain in the butt because of how thick/heavy it is.
     
  36. w3ak3stl1nk

    w3ak3stl1nk Notebook Consultant

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    If you are in doubt go with your gutt. There is sacrifices for getting a gaming rig. It is portable, but not as mobile as ultra mobile brands. So best to not expect netbook mobility with the same power specs.
     
  37. jaug1337

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    Agreed. It's without doubt one of the light-medium weight in it's category!

    Look at the Asus and Alienware.. those machines weight a little (too much) alright :p
     
  38. JoshPiger

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    Yeah im really trying to go with my gutt but its hard when it involves this much money. I feel like even most of the people on these forums would be disturbed by the amount of research i have done trying to find the best laptop. Sometimes i even dream about them haha :)
     
  39. MrLibya

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    I just ordered this after months of research.

    Ordered Sager NP9150 (Clevo P150EM) // i7-3720QM // 7970M // 16GB - DDR3 1333MHz // 240gb Intel 520 SSD // Bigfoot wireless-N 1103
     
  40. awakeN

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    Niiiiiceeeeee you won't regret it. :p that's quite the beast you have there
     
  41. Macon663

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    I just bought a 9150 myself...

    675M, i7 3610, 750gb 7200RPM HD, 8GB 1600mghz RAM, no optical drive, matte screen.

    Have a 256GB OCZ vertex 4 SSD, and 8 more gigs of RAM waiting to be installed when it gets here. Planning to do the hard drive location swap. Also ordered a external BluRay drive.

    Is the better wireless card really worth it? Whats the difference? I think I bought the cheap one.
     
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    Regarding the wireless card I got the bigfoot one because of the three antenna array and the low latency. If you have a very good router or modem it will cover it but I looked up on the reviews and everyone says its worth it and it makes a difference. If you want to get a good one that is cheap get the intel 6300 card.

    Anyone can link me to some 7970m benchmarks. Some that are very credible. Also concerning 7970m is there switchable graphics for good battery life.
     
  44. contradude

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    unfortunately, this GPU has not been officially released to consumers yet. there are some benchmarks floating around from the QS models that are sent to manufacturers to help them design their laptops but official benchmarks are only available from AMD right now and they aren't really giving numbers, just percentages. The 7970m will destroy the 675m completely, if you are preordering just get the 7970m. there will be no competition.

    Also, is anyone else running the beta nvidia drivers (301 series)? I seem to have an issue with it not completely powering off, it just sits there with the keyboard lit until I force power it. not terribly worried about it, but just curious.
     
  45. Holyhunter

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    Would this be a good laptop for a soon-to-be college student?

    6.83 lbs seems a bit heavy, but compared to my old laptop that was more than 9 pounds it's pretty light.

    Outside the weight it is completely perfect for what I need, but would it be too much of a hassle to move around?

    Thanks in advance to any replies
     
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    I'm looking at fitting an SATA 3.0 OCZ Vertex 4 512GB SSD and Samsung PM830 SATA 3.0 256GB mSATA into a P150EM.

    I was wandering if the Samsung PM830 SATA 3.0 256GB mSATA SSD in the SATA 2.0 port will this slow the performance of the OCZ Vertex drive in the SATA 3.0 port given that the OCZ drive excededs the speed of the Samsung drive which is limited by the SATA 2.0 data transfer rate. I am assuming that the mSATA will only operate as an Intel Smart response drive combined with a secondry SATA drive or can it be used seperatly?

    Specs OCZ Vertex 4 SATA 3.0 512GB read@550MB/s and write@475MB/s (not limited by the P150EM SATA 3.0)
    Samsung PM830 Sata 2.0 mSATA read@500MB/s and write@260MB/s (limited by P150EM Sata II to read@300MB/sec and write@260MB/s)

    Any insite /advice would be appreciated. Sorry if this has been previously discussed. Thanks.
     
  47. bzh2

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    I think this is something that you get used to or is at least pretty subjective. I briefly owned a G53SW that was like 8+ pounds and even bulkier than the P150em but I never felt that it was too big to haul around.

    The P150em is pretty awesome when you compare it to other laptops that tout 100w GPUs
     
  48. wild05kid05

    wild05kid05 Cook Free or Die

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    You can use it as separate drive along with the normal SSD. The performance will only be affected if you use both of them in raid not SRT cache.


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  49. GTMonster

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    Thanks for getting back... so if I use the SRT Cache will it improve performance in a non raid setup with this drive configuration or would I not see any benefit?

    I'm wandering if I keep the drives seperate and install 32GB ram and then use that to Cache the OCZ it may improve performance better that SRT Caching.
     
  50. urmystlkal

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    Finally sent in my money today for my laptop from Xotic. Can't wait to get a working laptop and the new 7970. I still need to order a SSD though, deciding btwn Crucial M4 and the Samsung 830 as those are usually the ones I see recommended everywhere.
     
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