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    *** Official Clevo N950TP6 / N957TP6 / N950TD / N957TD Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by sicily428, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. mcalago

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    Well, its my fetish to install newest updates everytime. At XMG's website it says only added support for i5 9400 and nothing more. Im actually seeing nothing better or worse compared to older bios version right now.
     
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    Hey, thanks i already stumbled upon this thread but didnt read all posts (and the last one was reffering to his git ^^).
    I finally managed to get Ubuntu working, this did the trick : acpi_osi="!Windows 2015" acpi_osi=Linux
    Now the installer was also able to shutdown my device :)

    Installing steam was pretty painless but then i ran into the nvidia driver running with optimus question. Since i could find so many different approaches i just used ubuntus additional drivers feature and installed the proprietary nvidia driver. But when i start e.g. CSGO i am sure the intel graphics card was used.

    Can anyone with some experience guide me how to get real optimus (not primeswitch) working?
    Which OS you recommend (i think i can get steamos working now too)?
    Should i use PPA repository driver or is this already the driver ubuntu wanted to install?
    I heard manjaro would be very easy but my download always fails after some minutes, so i cant test it :( I tried lots of different versions (kde and so on).
     
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    hi guys, i have undervolted my i5 8500 with Throttlestop and i thought about if it is possible to undervolt the nvidia 1060 card too? Does anyone have a guide for this (which tools etc..) or do you already have an undervolt working then maybe you could also share your settings/experience?
     
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    MSI afterburner and the clock curve is what you need to look into.
     
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    I've got a Samsung pm961 128gb nvme for Windows and it does not reach its full speed. Any ideas?
    I'm getting about 2.5 GB/s write and 750mb/s write speed. Should be around 3.2 gb/s read and 1.6 gb/s write.
    Does the Mainboard limit its speed? Do i need special drivers?
     
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    That's about normal for the 128 I think looking around quickly.
     
  7. Fightar

    Fightar Notebook Guru

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    I have a n950kp6, and other than being a sky/kaby lake-compatible laptop, it's basically identical to the tp6, so I will share what I've learned about this here. It's not possible to directly undervolt cards like we used to be able to because our lords and masters nvidia have decided that we are too stupid to mess with the voltage anymore. You can still do something similar by setting a frequency curve in msi afterburner. Bobofalltrades has a video tutorial of how to do this on his youtube channel and that's what I watched to learn how. But I have done something entirely different with my curve by severely underclocking it to 1400mhz and making it a straight line the whole way through so that it never boosts or goes above that.

    After doing that, and rolling back my drivers to 399.24, my temperatures have dropped from 85C to a max of 68C and I'm getting about 20+fps more on average than I was before. And that 68C only seems to be when I first load the game. Usually it sits around 62C.
     
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    What is The reason for this specific Driver 399.24?
     
  9. Fightar

    Fightar Notebook Guru

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    I was getting lots of crashes on my 1060 with every single 4xx driver and after reading around for a bit I found many people were saying to roll back to 3xx drivers, specifically 399.24, with pascal cards to fix whatever issues they were having. It's all anecdotal but I haven't had a single crash since.
     
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  10. Houzo

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    Currently i have 419.35 installed and no problems at all, even with overclocking no crashes.
    Sound over HDMI, however, does not work with any driver except the one from the clevo homepage, which is really old. Any idea how to fix this?
    Interestingly i had the same problem with my old asus laptop. Sound over HDMI only worked with the driver that came with it, not with the ones directly from Nvidia.
     
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    Iirc the hdmi audio driver is a separate part of the driver package, you could update the rest.
     
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    I just re-pasted my laptop after 6 months and here are the results : (old one is ic diamond and the new one is mx4 2019 edition)
     
  13. Fightar

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    Did you have trouble repasting the gpu? I've gotten all the screws out from the bottom but I'm really nervous about plying this keyboard up. I always end up breaking something on a clevo every single I have to deal with plastic clips.
     
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    Plastic spudgers are always great for that kind of thing.
     
  15. Fightar

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    Alright, finally got it all done. I had to take a look at the pdf manual and saw that you're actually supposed to stick a straightened paperclip or something through the screwhole in the back and push the keyboard out. After that, and 3 screws under the keyboard later, the inner shell came apart easy. After repaste combined with the curve underclock I previously put on I'm getting about 68C max in overwatch so no real change from before.

    My next step is to do something about that bare PCH chip because it's causing an annoying hotspot on my keyboard.
     
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    Tricky as the usual plan is to heat pad it to the nearest surface.
     
  17. TheUberMedic

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    Anyone got the new RTX 2070 models? How are the temperatures on that?
     
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    yep..i was going to give people the reference.., re-uploaded in imgur service,is it working now?
     
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    Yes it is working again.
     
  22. Gebbi

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    Hi there, I´m going to order a N950TP6 with i7-8700 cpu and have some questions before ordering:
    - how about the performance when you have opened about 10 firefox-windows - will this work or will it slow down the system and/or increase the fan speed?
    - I have to use an usb-hub (because of several devices like mice / keyboard / ext. usb hard discs) or docking station (same as usb-hub + LAN / audio) - will this work or might it slow down the acces to these devices?
    I´m asking because I´m quite unsatisfied with the performance of my current ACER-Notebook (Nitro 5) regarding the topics above.
    Thanks, Gebbi
     
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    It all depends on load for power/thermals. How much CPU are those tabs eating in the background? (Should be near 0 for a decent browser) it should not slow down.

    A usb3 hub offers a good amount of bandwidth and will operate at full speed with the machine.
     
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    Ok thanks for your reply.
    At the moment I´m struggling a bit - is there an overview what´s the difference between the N95 0TP6 and the N95 7TP6 ?
     
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    Different cosmetics.
     
  26. paul_cgn

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    Hello,
    will there be a bios upgrade to support the recently announced Intel 9th gen Coffee Lake Refresh CPUs? I know that XMG already released one that supports the 9400 model. It would be great if even the new 8 core models (9900, 9900T, 9700) were being added to the list.
    Cheers
    Paul
     
  27. AlexHu

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    Hey Paul. Where did you get that Information? I just saw on the taiwanesian clevo homepage, that this systems support cpus of the 9th iteration. see here: https://www.clevo.com.tw/clevo_prodetail.asp?id=1144&lang=en
    I´m pretty new to the barebone and clevo things and i am excited for the community and to do with this powerhorses. :) and btw I am from cgn too (if it´s about the city with the cathedral, you know :)
     
  28. paul_cgn

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    Hi Alex,
    I just noticed that this thread now also includes the N95xTD versions. I have a N957TP6 and wonder what might be the difference between those models. Do they share the same Mainboard? Apart from the GPU they seem to be pretty similar....
    XMG doesn't seem to sell the new versions under their own brand, though. For the TP6 you could just use their bios (they named the model Apex15).
    Yeah, I was born in Cologne, but now I live most of the time in Chamonix (French Alps).
     
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    It would be a new motherboard for the GPU.
     
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    Oh well, this is pretty interesting. I have to look, which version i got. It arrived at friday last week, so I´m quite in the process for setup and testing and the i5 8600 is at the moment more than capable of everything I want. Do you guys know, if the mainboard is changeable? Or is this process connected to too much effort and cost?
     
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    Usually they are not swappable.
     
  32. AlexHu

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    So, now I have a Clevo N957TD with Intel i5 8400 and RTX 2060, 1 TB NVMe and 1 TB 2,5" SSD. Do you guys have questions I might could answer or give you an insight on this machine? What are you interested in?
     
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    I've got the same notebook.

    Did you manage to put the ControlCenter-Fan setting to "Custom" and make it remember that after reboot? I have to put it back there after every reboot.
     
  34. smäggi

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    The fancontrol of theese clevo laptops are quite useless in my opinion. I highly advise to checkout https://code.obsidian-pc.com/clevo-software/fan-control/ but maybe your model is not supported. For me it works like a charm and its one of the best fan control software i ever used.
     
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    I´m having issues with controling my brightness settings for my display on my N957TP6. Since i am using the newer DCH drivers its not possible to alter the brightness at all, before it was working. Anyone having the same issue?
     
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    Have you tried a different version again?
     
  37. smäggi

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    I have tried various dch versions, i even got the app from the store (the newer one for dch). I went back to the latest driver found on the clevo site (24.20.100.6219) now i can set the brightness in the intel app (again from the store but the older one) but when i use the "ballon tip menu" it seems to have no effect, aswell as the brightness setting in windows (i guess they are the same). I remember there was a point in time this was just working... :(
     
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    This is because nvme and sata ssd´s need a lot of free space to reach the highest speeds, i have an 1tb samsung nvme and an intel 660p 2tb and by benchmarks are fine. The intel one is very attractive due to its low price level and tbh who needs 3g/s? When loading windows u definately wont get it, nor by starting programs. Better get a big drive with large space so you have consistend speeds. What is very important for ssd´s is disabling defrag for this drive in order to make it live longer, especially when you run a drive with low amounht of space. Trim usually works out of the box.
     
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  39. Meaker@Sager

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    As I stated after that post that's the rated speed for the drive. It's down to number of NAND die it can stripe across.
     
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    So after some experience, I can say that the Fan Level doesn´t stay as manually forced to be. So it changes after every reboot/new start.

    Is someone of you kind of experienced in undervolting Clevo Machines? I read about this at notebookcheck and it seems pretty useful. I didn´t found any setting point in the bios. Do I have to flash the Bios? Is there any newer version for any of the models above?
     
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    Intel XTU would have voltage sliders, MSI afterburner let's you play with your clock curve which mr. Fox has a guide on YouTube I believe.
     
  42. smäggi

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-under-volt-in-xtu-without-opening-it.802143/

    This is working well and theres no need to fiddle around with Throttlestop.
    If you really want it as silent as possible try to figure ut you max gpu clock @ 800mv in afterburner and use energy save mode for your cpu (this is working very good for most titles, sth like source engine wont run without stuttering because of the old engine (here u need to apply the balanced power plan at least).
    I also highly recomment using liquid metal for your cpu (inside IHS).
     
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    You could get stuttering with super low CPU clocks.
     
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    Hey there... I have the same problem with the fan level. I think there is no way besides of getting the Obsidian fan software. It's 30 € tho.

    I did undervolt my i5-8400 with Intel Extreme Tuning Utility by -150mV. I did not test more because I did not want it invest too much time.
     
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    Hi,
    since the new Intel i9-9900 (non-K) CPU is now available: has anyone tried to put one of those into a N957TP6? Will it boot just normally? If so, what bios were you using?
    Cheers
    Paul
     
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    Unless you are doing heavy threaded work it's hard to justify due to the TDP limit.
     
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    It's not a windows gaming box, I do a lot of compiling larger projects, and other threaded workloads.
     
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    Nothing official yet I would speak to your reseller.
     
  49. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    I put a 9900K in just for the giggles after completing the Prema Mod:

    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19132270

    H370 chipset is OC blocked, so heavily undervolted it'll run at 9900 stock clocks (4.7Ghz all core Turbo) for a little while before cooling becomes an issue.
    That was on a PremaMod (no throttle) BIOS.
    This quick test was also not on the stock power supply...
    It's 100% not a configuration I would suggest for this model for daily use.

    For any CFL-refresh (R0 stepping) model CPU you will need the latest BIOS:


    http://forum.notebookreview.com/index.php?posts/10925702
     
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    Hi Prema!
    Thanks for your info - are you sure it was the N957TP6? I was quite sure it had an Z370 chipset - only that overclocking was blocked by missing options in the stock bios. Thanks for the link to the clevo firmware mirror!
     
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