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    *** Official Clevo N950TP6 / N957TP6 / N950TD / N957TD Owner's Lounge ***

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by sicily428, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    The older Pascal models (like yours) used a Z370.
    I testeted it on a N960TD with Turing (all the new ones are H370).
    Point being it can't really handle the stock clocks and power draw of a 9900...
     
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    Thanks a lot for the clarification. I think I will just live with 6 cores on my laptop for the time being and do the time consuming tasks on a 'real' machine (will likely get a EPYC 7702P 64-core monster soon...).
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Z chipset are in the p series only, the VRM and cooling is not setup for overclocking so a z series chipset is not used to save money.
     
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    mcalago Notebook Consultant

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    Hey fellas did a new video about CPU cooling comparison. As additional information i have repasted both cpu and gpu with arctic mx-4 2019 but noticed that cpu still goes hot. i read many solved this problem by uninstalling CCC so i also did but it wasnt effecting at all , after that i installed obsidian pc control software and undervolted via software.

     
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  5. Mech in love with Tech

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    Hello guys, I just ordered this laptop and I also ordered an i5-9400f with 8GB 2666mhz ram. I asked Schenker to bios upgrade it for me, and when I asked about CPU support they said that 9400 is supported but they don't know about 9400f and they don't have the CPU to test it out. I e-mailed Clevo regarding this matter, they sent me a pdf with the supported CPU's and there were only 4 of them (i3-8100, i5-8400, i7-8700,i5-9400). I asked them about i5-9400f but I got no reply back, so I cancelled my order on the 9400f :( . Is there a chance any of you can experiment on that and test an i5-9400f on the new bios to see if it works?
     
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    Dudes, help me pls!
    Where i can buy keyboard for N950TP?
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Resellers, ebay or ali Express type places.
     
  8. Faktora

    Faktora Notebook Guru

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    I wanted to repaste my laptop and since im going in I might aswell change the thermal pads with something with higher W/mK. Can anyone tell me the thickness of the original ones that are preinstalled. Also if anyone have already done that what did you use? I see many people use the Arctic pads but they are 6W/mK and I was thinking of getting atleast the Alphacool Eisschicht that are 11W/mK, sooo what will you suggest me?
     
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    Faktora Notebook Guru

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    Wow you are lucky one. I managed to undervolt my i5-8400 to -125mV, after that it crashes so I keep it @-120mV since its stable and I have no performance loss with it. GJ
     
  10. bigspin

    bigspin My Kind Of Place

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    Get 2x 1.0mm and 2x 0.5mm Gelid GP extreme pads. Then stack up if you need higher thickness pads. Use your eye to measure pad sizes. Original clevo pads are very soft. So if you find 1.5mm thickness pads and see grooves, that usually translates to 1mm aftermarket pads.

    I measured original pad height and use the exact same measurements when I change pads for P775TM. then learned the lesson. Aftermarket pads not squeeze as much as originals, so they will reduced heatsink contact pressure

    Gelid pads rated 12W/mk. They are also reasonably soft.

    Sent from my SM-G970F using Tapatalk
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Thermal pad choice is not really consequential, height and fit is the thing to worry about.
     
  12. John Entwistle

    John Entwistle Newbie

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    Hi guys! My new (purchased last month) Clevo N950TP6 was resold/value added by Computer Upgrade Kings as a

    “CUK N950VR (3.2GHz 6-core i7-8700 (Faster Than i9-8950HK), 32GB RAM, 1TB NVMe + 2TB, NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB, 15.6” FHD 120Hz, AC WiFi, Win 10 Home) VR Ready Gaming Notebook Laptop Computer”

    link:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079N9ZHKJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Mine was new, but it looks like they have one used one left, as well as a few lesser models. It’s been encoding video 24/7 using Handbrake ever since without one hiccup with the help of my custom 6-fan cooling pad. Still, the CPU hits TDP limit almost continuously, and thermal limit often. I don’t know anything about it, but have you all seen this site:

    https://www.wimsbios.com/biosupdates/clevo.jsp ?

    Stand cool.
     
  13. Masterslp

    Masterslp Newbie

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    [​IMG] Hello, I really need photos of the selected area in good quality .
    If possible without a disk and cables. Anyone help?
    from n950tp6 will be the
    but similar ones can also help
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Are you looking to do component level repair there?
     
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    Masterslp Newbie

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    Yes i want repair . GTX1060 code 43
    I found i dont have r558 but i think it is only for usb3.

    there was a short circuit on the cmos battery

    Realy need photo ;)
     
  16. mcalago

    mcalago Notebook Consultant

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    Does anyone knows if we can charge laptop through usb c port? While its turned off ofcourse-
     
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    No charging through USB, no.
     
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    Hello guys, I'm a bit desperate here. I just upgraded from i3-8100 to i7-8700 (nonK). I had a -130mv undervolt on the i3 and just as I powered up the machine I hit 70 degrees instantly after loading programs etc. I did an undervolt test and went -100mv and stress tested. I went up to -110mv stable. I tried to stress test on -110mv and I hit 90 degrees in 6.5 minutes with FULL SPEED FAN running all the time. Is that normal? Should I delid and use LM? I'm super frustrated with these temperatures. Right now I'm idling at 44 degrees which is fine I guess but hitting 90 degrees on a CPU stress test is super sketchy. My GPU hits 78 max on 100% load. If I try to game and GPU temperature rises up I'm afraid it might hit 100 degrees. Anyone that can help me with some tweaks or something I can do to help it cool down better?
     
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    90C in a stress test is perfectly within spec for the chip.
     
  20. TheUberMedic

    TheUberMedic Notebook Evangelist

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    It sounds like your CPU isn't making good contact with the heat spreader. Try reapplying the paste and delidding wouldnt hurt.
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Feel free to post up a picture of the contact pattern left by the thermal paste but I wont be surprised if it looks ok.
     
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    Hello again, I tried to game and I played Sekiro and Zelda breath of the wild on Cemu and I hit max 64 (full fan speed)degrees with gpu at 70 and 74 degrees with auto fan. It's fine as long as it doesn't use 100%. It's idling at 45 degrees and never passes 64 on full fans with my usage. I think I'll be fine, but I live in Greece and the summers here are tough. I might need to delid when room temperatures hit 35+. Thank you for providing advice and information though.

    I have two more questions. I'm thinking of upgrading the screen with a 120 or 144hz one. Do you guys know what kind of pin connector I should look for? And is every 120Hz IPS screen on Ebay with with the same connector fine to run?

    Also I see the bios misses way to many options. Is there a way I can find a better bios? Like a normal z370 bios where I will be free to turn off turbo boost or lower the power I'm giving the CPU?
     
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    You will need to match your current display likely a 30 pin eDP.
     
  24. mcalago

    mcalago Notebook Consultant

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    i was having same temperatures as yours but then managed to get cooler. For CPU = undervolting to -100mv, limiting turbo ratio limits to 40(all cores) and limiting turbo boost power limits to 40. (these all done in throttlestop) And For GPU = There is a whisper mode in geforce experience settings just turn that thing on.
     
  25. Varun Agrawal

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    I have a question about over-heating in N957TP6. hwinfo and one another tool reported 85C CPU temperature under normal conditions while the temperature in the room is roughly 20C.

    My GPU report 60C as temperature and it immediately rises to 95C as soon as I open a game.

    My laptop is 2 years old and while side-fan sounds like working, it has little vibrations and also not much warm air doesn't come from it. My keyboard seems to be a bit hot most of the time.

    So I want to ask if my fan is faulty, or it is the thermal paste? Will a good thermal paste ensure that warm air starts releasing again from the fan.

    Also out of curiosity, what is the use of back fan? What does it cool?
     
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  26. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It certainly needs a look at, i'd run it with the fan exposed to see if it was working properly and inspect the paste to see if it had deteriorated.
     
  27. Varun Agrawal

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    Ok. The fan was fine but had a huge layer of dust covering the vents. That along with a new thermal paste reduced the temperature by 10C for me.

    Thanks, Meaker@Sager for advice. Just one more question. Is there any guide/video for a laptop similar to N957TP6 that describe how to disassemble GPU (so I can do the same process for GPU)
     
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    You'll need to take the bottom off the machine to do that directly (remove battery and all screws around the edge once the panel is removed). I would just stick a stick into the fan to stop it spinning and use compressed air to clean out the dust.
     
  29. mcalago

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    Im having weird issues here. Some keys like F,H,B and ? wont work time to time. I have many times reinserted the ribbon but nothing changed. And i feel like its not working when pc is cold. After while smash spamming keys for 10 minute it starts working by chance. I was looking for a keyboard to replace it but its really really expensive, around 50 and 70 dollars. Do you guys know any seller that i can buy replacement keyboard for this laptop for maybe 10 to 20 bucks? Living in Turkey btw.
     
  30. Varun Agrawal

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    It looked like a faulty keyboard to me too (had similar problems). Unfortunately, I don't know any cheaper keyboard seller. I paid similar amount too.
     
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    Hello. I have a problem with crashes on battery. My laptop is <2 years old. From some time, I have this problem. When it's on power, it works fine. It also works fine on the battery as long as I don't move it. As soon as I move it physically, it crashes. Can you tell what's the problem and what should I do? I recently bought a new battery so I am sure battery is not the issue.
     
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    What kind of crash?
     
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    Hard system crash. It just shutdowns immediately. No freezing or delay, just shutdown as if you remove the power.
     
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    Could be a loose battery connector either holding the battery or the contacts to the motherboard.
     
  35. egll

    egll Newbie

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    Hi everyone!

    I got my clevo n950tp6 at least 2 years ago and I want to re-apply thermal paste to the GPU, any idea how can I remove the bigger back plate? I have removed all the screws, but something in the center (exactly on top of the GPU) is blocking me to be able to pull it out.
    I have looked online any method to remove it, but still no luck. I have seen some people of the forum did it, could you please post pictures of the procedure to take out the larger back plate?
     
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    Hello! I had the chance to do it 2 weeks ago (for Clevo N957TP6.. but I think they are similar laptop. I don't have pictures. But here is the process.

    1. Remove the back tray to get access to RAM area.
    2. Remove the keyboard screw and eject the keyboard (Manual explain how to do this too)
    3. Remove all the screws in front side of laptop (I think they are around 4 and will be visible after you eject the keyboard)
    4. Remove all the screws in the base of laptop
    5. Remove all the scews in the battery cabinet (white ones, required).

    Now you can remove the back body. To open the GPU, it's recommend to open the screw labelled 8 to 5 in the order. And also tight them, the order is reveresed to 5,6,7,8.

    Note: GPU seem like it's stuck even after removing GPU screws. But try to shake it in different directions slowly and it will come out.
     
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    As above I believe it should be the same process for yours.
     
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    Thank you. Finally I was able to access the GPU, I had a little trouble ejecting the keyboard, because none of my iFixIt kit tools was slim enough to access the hole and I didn't received an ejection tool (as the manual says), anyways it seems the ink cartridge from a parker pen could do the job.
     
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    I'm surprised the bits from the Ifixit kit would not do it, either way nice work.
     
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    Hi,
    i'd like to buy Clevo N957TP6 i7-8700 with GTX 1060 but i have few questions:

    1. Can i buy for example fast 2x Samsung PM981 512GB SSD M.2 2280 and use raid 0 to get the best permormance? Will it work at full speed or something will slow down and better not to use raid 0?

    2. Delidding i7 8700 - should i use Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut or other liquid metal?

    3. What should i use (best option or budget option) for processor and gpu - Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut or...?

    4. I'd like to change display (need to work in photoshop, video editing also) - what should i use? If possible it will be great to have 4k - AU Optronics AUO23EB will fit, will be the best option or there is better option?

    Thanks in advance for any tips :)
     
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    All intel mainstream platforms (up to 9900K) are limited to 3.5GB/sec for all I/O included due to the link between the CPU and the chipset being 4x PCI-E 3.0.

    Any liquid metal will do.

    Use regular thermal paste for the rest unless you really know what you are doing.

    Any replacement panels will need to use the same connector and pin count, usually 1080p and 4k panels have different pin counts.
     
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    may i ask what are the differences and same hardware between N950TC and n950tp? Because im seeing new updates for TC and if compatible i'd like to install them.
     
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    Check the CPU generation/model and GPU geberation/model.
     
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    they are almost identical, only differences i see;
    -TC has gtx 1660 Ti and supports from i7 8700 to i9 9900T
    -TP6 has gtx 1060 and max official support for cpu is i7 8700 ( but with latest bios update via 1.07.12 - i5 9400 was added)
    -TC has Sound Blaster 5, TP6 had Sound Blaster 3 in the begining but then got updated itself to 5.
    - Also i have installed control center 3 of TC on my TP6 and nothing worked instead gave me warning after that my system is not supported.
     
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    Those are the differences from the looks of things. Different cpu generation and gpu generation.
     
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    Question:

    Clevo N957TD/N957TC - can i use i5-9600K or i7-8700k/9700k? (if processor will be delided))

    Ram can work max on 2666MHz or higher also?
     
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    65w max official TDP and non overclocking chipset.
     
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    i noticed in bios settings there is no more legacy bios option anywhere. It's most latest version installed "
    1.07.12" ?
     
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    Hi,i got Clevo N95TP6 too and i got a mod bios and now support i9 9900 vey well,and i want to install 64gb ram,did anyone try that to put 64 gb ram in this model???
     
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    Ram,you must buy just 2666 becouse i7 and i9 support max 2666,more than this is just waste of money.
     
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