**OFFICIAL M860TU/ETU Owners Lounge**

most popular? apple macbook pro is popular, dell xps is popular, even AW m15x is popular, but not M860TU. go on street see how many people ever heard of clevo/sager.

 

I am very close minded person, I believe M860TU is most popular!!!

 

You would have to ask whoever you bought it from.

 

Hi Paladin, is phase number (from XoticPC) a clear indication of the progress of my order? I am still stuck on phase 1 despite the fact that I preordered this laptop a month ago. The answer I got from Xoticpc is "no", but that doesn't make me feel better seeing that most people here are on the production phase. Also, my system only contains standard components.

 

I ordered the Sager version of the M860TU. It doesn't matter which Sager reseller I ordered through (it's Xotic if you're curious) because assembly occurs at the Sager factory. Since you are a very knowledgeable Sager reseller I assumed (incorrectly?) that you would know these Sager-specific (rather than reseller-specific) details regarding assembly and display ETA.

Sorry if I'm missing something and it truly is reseller-specific.

Edit: I should have been clearer in my OP that I was trying to ask about the assembly of the notebook rather than a specific order status, which would clearly be reseller-specific. Sorry for the confusion

 

What I was reacting to is "...but received an update email a few days back saying my unit was going into production." That is clearly vendor specific. I have no way of tracking your order, or knowing what your vendor meant, or who your vendor was.

As for the assembly question, the shells come in with the screen attached as that is part of the barebones shell. Therefore an order for a WUXGA screen can't begin production until that barebones shell has arrived.

At this point we expect the WUXGA screens to begin shipping within a week or so.

 

Wow, people. Asking questions like these is not going to speed up the process. If your status number is 1 or w/e it means that. If you think it is wrong, you take it up sager or the reseller you bought it from, not some other reseller. First he has no control over your system, and second there is no reason he should care.

As for mike's situation, going into production means they are starting to build it. If they are lacking parts, they obviously can't build it hence the delay. I highly doubt they would go into the trouble of installing the screen, then removing it just so you can get your laptop faster.

edit: it seems like the barebones comes with fixed screens, so its a no either way.

 

Again, phase numbers are unique to Xoticpc so you would have to ask them what it means.

 

Thanks for the info Donald and sujinge9

 

Metromike i was in the same boat as you. There is a delay. the phase is right though. Your laptop will be built, burned and tested, but they will hold it (delay) until they get the 1920x1200 screens in. If you want to downgrade im sure they will be willing too. I did.

 

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As I stated before that is not true.

The barebones come in with the screens attached, so there is nothing to build until the WUXGA versions arrive.

 

Donald,have you tested one?

 

No, that is not my job. I rely on the technicians to do that.

 

I think Donald is the owner of PNB? He won't bother with such small potato.

 

but have you seen one in person?does it fill thick?

 

It does not feel thick to me...I really don't understand all this conversation about a laptop that is so powerful and less than 2" thick.

 

/cry i want mine!! Rock ship mine asap!!!

 

This is torture

 

Justin, do you have any more pictures to tease us with?

 

So Xotic more or less lied when they sent me an email saying my order was being moved to production?

 

It probably should be, but it's not.

Do we have an ETA on that review?

Also, why is Eurocom the only vendor offering the 9600M?

 

Is it better to buy this notebook now or wait until the Nehlam platform comes out by the end of this year?

 

Hi Cossack,

Rule of Thumb on buying a Laptop ... if you DON'T need or MUST have it NOW ... then WAIT ...

You always will end up BETTER OFF ... Higher Quality for Less $$$.

G!

 

I sure wouldn't use that word, especially until you talk to them yourselves to see what was meant.

Calling someone a liar in a public forum before even talking to them seems to be a bit rash to me.

 

@coss and gonwk:

That reminds me of the other saying, if you wait because something much better is coming right over the horizon...you'll always be waiting

 

If I used that logic, I'd never have a new laptop.

 

No one can answer that question. If you wait for this 'nehlam' then you'll be waiting for santa nehlam quad omega core 4 duo when it is released

 

Does anyone have an exact date on when the new Nehlam platrform will come out? If its going to take more than a month, I'm definitely buying a notebook.

I would love to wait for the new platform and quad core. But then again, technology is always changing. It used to be every two years or so. Now it changes every quarter of a year.

There will always be something new coming out and if I keep on waiting, I'll never be able to get a notebook. (By the way, this is going to be my first notebook... )

Its probably a good idea to get something cheaper, so when it does get old, I won't feel too bad about it.

Spending $2000 on anotebook and then having it get old by the following year is dissapointing you know.

 

Hi guys,

Also remember the saying "Patience is a Virtue".

G!

 

Whatever you say.

I've been waiting for nearly a year now, trying to find a notebook that suites my needs. And I haven't come across anything that good...YET...

 

It will not be out within a month...or even 3 months...it will be sometime in 2009 at the earliest.

 

um.....ouch....lol

 

Paladin, is there going to be any kind of sale? I would have purchased the NP8660 right away if it came with the Ati HD3870. When I configured my notebook with the Ati graphics card, it was about $200-$300 cheaper than with the 9800GT.

I really hope Sager/Clevo settle this issue and offer the Ati as an option for graphics cards. I realize the NP8660 is MXM capable, and I could change the GPU myself. However, not only would that void my warranty, I would also be spending extra money for a 9800GT for no reason.

 

Nehalem will not be out in notebooks until approximately this time next year (Q3 2009). It will be a performance increase, for sure, but to me it's definitely not worth waiting an additional year. If you have a more modern, capable notebook that can tide you over until that time, I'd suggest waiting.

My computer overheats when I watch online videos (youtube, etc.) for more than 30 minutes at a time. It isn't capable of playing many modern games and, even if it had the hardware to do so, it is a PPC-based PowerBook from 4.5 years ago, so I can't run much on OS X and I can't use BootCamp.

If I want a major performance bump to feel good about my notebook (not that I will need to) when Nehalem finally debuts in notebooks, I will grab a stable, fast, high-capacity (384 GB I hope) SSD that will probably more than halve boot times and make Vista seem nearly instantaneously responsive at a decent price (by that time).

Unless you're going to be modeling nuclear explosions, solving complicated engineering/math/physics problems, or other CPU-intensive tasks where having a faster CPU means the problem can be solved in 4 hours instead of 6 (molecular dynamics simulations that I'm running on a school server literally take 18-20 hours when optimized for quad-core), I think that today's C2D processors will suffice just fine.

Edit: Paladin always beats people to the punch

 

More likely than not you would not be, Sager already offered people who pre ordered with the ATI a 9800M GT upgrade, so i doubt they will give potential buyers 200-300 discounts because the card is no longer available. Unless they start up testing again witht he card and wait for teh bugs to be fixed it will be highly unlikely that they will be putting that card back out into the market again.

 

Okay. So they don't want to use Ati graphics cards. What about other nVidia GPUs? 9800GTS? 9700GT?

 

Trust me, this m860tu not going to be anywhere NEAR old all of next year. It might start to show its age by end of 2010 but even then it will run everything smoothly.

 

I really hope it does. Quad-core is going to become standard sooner or later.

 

Even if so, you must ask yourself what it is you want to use the intended laptop you want to purchase for? How mobile you want it to be? And how much are you willing to put down at one time for it?

Because yes, quad core can come out, and octo core after that and then again Sixta core, but if you are going to be playing games, its not going to make that much of a difference, and dare I say it, EVEN when the games are using all the cores.

If you are into video production, things are moving towards using the GPU power over the CPU power so you could have the latest quad core processor and encoding your video in 2 hours and I'm doing it in 20 minutes because I'm using the GPU technology.

Then again, why get a laptop? because a desktop would be the perfect thing to get if you want to upgrade the purchase every 6 months, and it would upgrade for sure.

 

In Norway we have the choice of 8800 GTX, or 9800 GT or GTS. The GTS is cheaper and according to notebookcheck, not that way behind. My question is this, does choosing the GTS affect temperature. Will it be cooler with this GPU than e.g. 9800GT?

 

After browsing through previous posts, it seems that the notebook remains adequately cool. The only concern raised so far is on the bottom right hand side of the notebook, where the temperature gets considerably warm. This is probably due to the hard drive and I'm sure it won't be too big of a problem.

 

I am pretty sure that they will not offer the 9700GT since that is a lower end gfx card. They might or might not put the GTS back in, not sure hwhy they took it out in the first time.

 

Anyone know why Sager hasn't hosted the M860TU drivers on their website yet?

Anyone know where else I can get them?

 

i recall sum1 asking how crysis ran... and i tried it while at my friends house, so it appears to work very well on the M860TU no lagging smooth graphics, etc

 

What were the settings on Crysis Chung?

Also, did it seem like the fans were kicking in to the point of annoyance whilst playing? And was the laptop starting to get hot?

 

1. default
2. Fans as i have said do not seem to be a problem, for me, no matter what i am doing
3. Laptop gets warm after a bit of use, no problem since winter is coming soon :]

btw if the edge is the same thing, i have same exact specs, so urs should be fine as well

mebe just mebe i am used to my old desktop and have learned to zone out fan noise ><

 

Sounds to me like Clevo have gotten it right with their 15" laptop.

Glad I'm getting one. Now to wait.....*sigh*

 

Will the NP5796 drivers work on the NP8660?

 

All the basics one should, like the wifi drivers etc/video

 

Chunghwa, have you had any experience with other glossy laptops? If you have, how is the glare on the Clevo display? Any graniness or sparkling or anything that isn't too nice?