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    **OFFICIAL M860TU/ETU Owners Lounge**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by steveninspokane, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. armagideontime

    armagideontime Notebook Consultant

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    c'mon justin, youre killing us =)
     
    armagideontime, Aug 15, 2008
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  2. Nirvana

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    no offense but why can't some laptop-madness (like me) receive m860tu first? so that we can have a full review in a hour or 2? God is unfair. :mad: :mad: :mad: at least I have DSLR for it. :D :D :p
     
    Nirvana, Aug 15, 2008
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  3. Chunghwa

    Chunghwa Notebook Enthusiast

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    Speakers and screen are niceee :D sound seems really good, u can hear the 3D effect. some songs are a bit tinny sounding tho
     
    Chunghwa, Aug 15, 2008
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  4. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    u ordered one nirvana?
     
    Vedya, Aug 15, 2008
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  5. AlyH

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    not experiencing 'nirvana', are we? :D :D :D
     
    AlyH, Aug 15, 2008
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  6. Chunghwa

    Chunghwa Notebook Enthusiast

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    Im sorry i have to go to my friends house but its the last time ill c him b4 god knows when >< college...
     
    Chunghwa, Aug 15, 2008
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  7. Nirvana

    Nirvana Notebook Prophet

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    No it just a metaphor, because I know there are lot of expert users on this forum.
     
    Nirvana, Aug 15, 2008
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  8. Concr3te

    Concr3te Notebook Enthusiast

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    Assuming you're notebook is working like it should, in what order did you install the drivers? I realize this is a total n00b question, but I want to make sure I do it right when mine arrives :eek: (I'll be installing XP on mine btw)
     
    Concr3te, Aug 15, 2008
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  9. livesoft

    livesoft BUSTED

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    If some positive infos comes out about build quality, you get my order the next day! :D

    Can we get the RivaTuner Hardware monitor graph with RPM and temps?
     
    livesoft, Aug 15, 2008
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  10. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    looking from the manuel the lower right hand side is near the hard drive, and I don't see anything in the lower right hand corner... except the 3G module.
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 15, 2008
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  11. Nirvana

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    it doesn't matter.
     
    Nirvana, Aug 15, 2008
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  12. Chunghwa

    Chunghwa Notebook Enthusiast

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    not necessarily the corner but lower right hand side is the only particular warm spot im noticing
     
    Chunghwa, Aug 15, 2008
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  13. livesoft

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    The CD driver tells you in which order to install the drivers.
     
    livesoft, Aug 15, 2008
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  14. milcs

    milcs Anti-fanboy

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    71ºC with only 3DMark2006... I'm guessing this will be running as hot as the M15x under true stress (e.g. playing crysis).
     
    milcs, Aug 15, 2008
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  15. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    If I remember correctly, there was one user who had an m15x, but bought an m860tu for his brother. He should do a head 2 head comparsion!!!

    forgot his name though
     
    Vedya, Aug 15, 2008
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  16. AlyH

    AlyH Notebook Evangelist

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    if possible, can pictures be taken with some reference objects next to it so we can get a feel for it's dimensions? like a pop can, or something
     
    AlyH, Aug 15, 2008
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  17. Nirvana

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    I am guessing the HDD is underneath? that's the same problem with M570RU/TU

    [​IMG]
     
    Nirvana, Aug 15, 2008
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  18. Cossack7V7

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    They should have included the new Quadro FX graphics cards as options. They have similar performance and run a lot cooler!

    As for the left right side getting noticeably warm-the hard drive is in that area. I wonder if Chungwa has the 320GB 7200RPM or the 500GB 5400RPM hard drive...
     
    Cossack7V7, Aug 15, 2008
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  19. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    uh oh......... :p
     
    Vedya, Aug 15, 2008
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  20. youdontneedtoknow

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    why are they cooler?
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 15, 2008
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  21. Nirvana

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    I am thinking the same. if you compare my 3dmark06 on 5793, tempertures were hovering 60-70, compare to 78C under full stress.
     
    Nirvana, Aug 15, 2008
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  22. gavinh

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    I thought Quadros blew in games.
     
    gavinh, Aug 15, 2008
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  23. BlueMak

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    71 isn't as bad as I was afraid. Would be nice to know after few 3dmark06 loops or an hour of gaming though.

    If the noise isn't loud with max fan speed that is great.
     
    BlueMak, Aug 15, 2008
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  24. Vedya

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    No, they are about the same.
     
    Vedya, Aug 15, 2008
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  25. Cossack7V7

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    And they run cooler! Sager/Clevo, please include the FX1700M, FX2700M and FX3700M. These are all new!
     
    Cossack7V7, Aug 15, 2008
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  26. youdontneedtoknow

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    71C is pretty high, but what is the average temperature without running graphic intensive programs?
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 15, 2008
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  27. livesoft

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    But they are waaaaaaaaayyyyy more expensive.
     
    livesoft, Aug 15, 2008
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  28. Chunghwa

    Chunghwa Notebook Enthusiast

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    My last gift b4 i go.

    standard drafting 12" ruler on top with poland spring water bottle on top as well
    laptop is resting on top of NC 1000

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
    Chunghwa, Aug 15, 2008
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  29. Xirurg

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    Justin,can you try Crysis on it?please? :)
     
    Xirurg, Aug 15, 2008
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  30. youdontneedtoknow

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    nice would be better if you can take some videos with your cell phone too!
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 15, 2008
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  31. NCG1589

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    As far as the max temp goes, you have no idea how much those fans might kick in when you start to put it under load :)
     
    NCG1589, Aug 15, 2008
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  32. Justin@XoticPC

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    The right side of the touch pad is the main area were I noticed some warmth.

    Here are some quick High Res pics.....
     

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    Justin@XoticPC, Aug 15, 2008
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  33. milcs

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    71ºC on 3dMark06 is not indicative of what temperature the GPU really runs.
    71ºC on 3DMark alone is high. We will only know when we have true GPU testing and stressing (this is, Furmark, ATItools and, most important, playing a game like crysis).
     
    milcs, Aug 15, 2008
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  34. Cossack7V7

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    The only issue right now seems to be the temperature, particularly on the lower right hand side of the notebook, under the palm rest.

    According to the manual, this is where the hard drive is located. Maybe Chungwa got the 320GB 7200RPM hard drive, and this is producing all of the heat? :confused:

    By the way, the notebook doesn't look so thick. The thickness is rather reasonable for a notebook of its size and the performance it has to offer. :)
     
    Cossack7V7, Aug 15, 2008
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  35. AlyH

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    thanks for the pics chunghwa and justin!!
     
    AlyH, Aug 15, 2008
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  36. Nirvana

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    wow that's much thinner than i thought, I've handled m15x in person, so I don't know how they are 1.3" vs. 1.7"
     
    Nirvana, Aug 15, 2008
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  37. Chunghwa

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    I did get the 320 GB @ 7200 so mebe and yea it doesnt look 2 thick ... when its open ><
     
    Chunghwa, Aug 15, 2008
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  38. NCG1589

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    Beat me to that, yeah that thing looks amazing.
     
    NCG1589, Aug 15, 2008
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  39. Justin@XoticPC

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    We have the 320GB also and notice some warmth on the right side of the touchpad. Will try to get some Crysis temps later.
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Aug 15, 2008
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  40. AlyH

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    how's the build quality? does it seem like a strong laptop, or is it a bit creaky/squeaky in places?
     
    AlyH, Aug 15, 2008
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  41. Cossack7V7

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    It looks like the only issue is the temperature. And the hard drive is responsible. Isn't the 320GB 7200RPM a Seagate?

    It looks like I'll be getting the 320GB 5400RPM, if that makes a difference.

    As for the build quality, I hope the keyboard doesn't have too much flex. I saw a Youtube video of the NP2096, and there was a lot of flex on the left-hand side of the keyboard...
     
    Cossack7V7, Aug 15, 2008
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  42. NCG1589

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    That power brick seems a little chunky, at least its no 9262 brick lol.
     
    NCG1589, Aug 15, 2008
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  43. Justin@XoticPC

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    The 320GB is a Seagate. I think overall it is a solid build. No creaks in the chassis for flexing in the keyboard. (that i have been able to notice so far). The chassis is firm.
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Aug 15, 2008
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  44. Cossack7V7

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    That's great news. Judging by the pictures, it does seem pretty solid. :D

    As for the hard drive-Justin, what would you recommend getting?
    (do you happen to have any Western-Digital branded hardrives? They run cooler and a lot better than Seagate.)
     
    Cossack7V7, Aug 15, 2008
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  45. Nirvana

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    somehow I can tell it's super solid by just looking at the pics.
     
    Nirvana, Aug 15, 2008
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  46. StefanHamminga

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    Great pics Justin!

    How do you rate the keyboard? I was curious how it would compare to the Lenovo ones (T61 for example)?
     
    StefanHamminga, Aug 15, 2008
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    How are the touchpad buttons.. as per the pics, the buttons are just extension of the touchpad itself.. how is the feel?
     
    mars01679, Aug 15, 2008
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  48. Xirurg

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    Justin,maybe you should open your own thread and center all your info there?
     
    Xirurg, Aug 15, 2008
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  49. AlyH

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    I must admit, I have not ordered one yet because I am waiting for reviews and such..... so far so good! i'm really looking forward to full temp/noise specs and other performance tests.

    ...maybe some negative stuff? :eek2:
     
    AlyH, Aug 15, 2008
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  50. Justin@XoticPC

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    They keyboard feels firm. I wish it had a num pad. I like how the shortcut and power buttons still maintain the brushed aluminum design. They integrate well into the chassis. A couple of posters in the past asked on the display, it is the LPL0000 on the WSXGA+.

    Sorry I dont have the time to switch around hard drives on the model. I will try to do some more testing over the weekend and first of next week and will post a new thread with a formal review. :)
     
    Justin@XoticPC, Aug 15, 2008
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