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    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by steveninspokane, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. AlyH

    AlyH Notebook Evangelist

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    yea, i'm gonna ask Eurocom... also gonna see if I can put my own hdd in :)
     
    AlyH, Aug 21, 2008
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  2. Anomaly10

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    Anyone who owns this computer tried a dual boot yet? I'm having problems with a "Stop: 0x0000007B" error every time I use the option to "Boot from CD" from the BIOS.
     
    Anomaly10, Aug 21, 2008
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  3. gavinh

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    Did you change the boot order so CD-drive has highest priority?
     
    gavinh, Aug 21, 2008
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  4. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    what's dual boot?
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 21, 2008
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  5. Anomaly10

    Anomaly10 Notebook Evangelist

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    No, it boots into the CD just fine, the whole plain screen where drivers are loaded comes up, and then at the very end, when the "Starting Windows..." text comes up on the little gray bar at the bottom, the blue screen hits me.
     
    Anomaly10, Aug 21, 2008
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  6. Selenium

    Selenium Notebook Evangelist

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    Well, that would just be cruel. If anything those of us farther away should have our notebooks shipped sooner. If that were the case maybe mine would almost be here by now. I just got the shipping e-mail, finally. And I pre-ordered on the 25th. :confused:

    Here's to hoping I get it in a week or so rather than 3+ which is sometimes the case over here.

    Edit - Ah, OK, now I understand. PNB had Sager ship the laptop to them first so that they could better prepare it for the long ride over here, and also so that they could add a "token of appreciation" for my military servitude. No idea what that will be, but I appreciate it all the same especially considering they already gave me a military discount.
     
    Selenium, Aug 21, 2008
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  7. BlueMak

    BlueMak Notebook Evangelist

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    What OS is that?
     
    BlueMak, Aug 21, 2008
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  8. gavinh

    gavinh Notebook Evangelist

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    Hey that's awesome, nice of PNB.

    Maybe you'll get a free copy of Crysis to hone your skills. Be sure to tell us.
     
    gavinh, Aug 21, 2008
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  9. speedingstarz

    speedingstarz Newbie

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    Hey guys,

    I've also just received my M860TU and I ran the free version of 3dMarks06 and my scores are #$%^$#%$# compare to what I've seen from other peoples machine. :( :( :( :(

    Anyway, is there something I'm doing wrong?

    Any help/explanation appreciated.

    Specs:
    P9500
    9800GT
    4gig ram
    320/5400 HD

    THANK YOU!!
     

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    speedingstarz, Aug 21, 2008
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  10. Toastyy

    Toastyy Notebook Geek

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    maybe it's chocolate!
     
    Toastyy, Aug 21, 2008
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  11. Toastyy

    Toastyy Notebook Geek

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    it thinks your gpu is a generic vga? that could be something?
     
    Toastyy, Aug 21, 2008
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  12. jaylav

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    @ speedingstarz

    Make sure you video card drivers are properly installed.
     
    jaylav, Aug 21, 2008
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  13. speedingstarz

    speedingstarz Newbie

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    The drivers come with the machine right? or do I have to install newer drivers or something?
     
    speedingstarz, Aug 21, 2008
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  14. Kevin

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    Is anyone's computer reading their 9800 as a G92 chip? It's really a G94 right?
     
    Kevin, Aug 21, 2008
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  15. MrFong

    MrFong Notebook Evangelist

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    Grumble. I would have my NP8660 in my hands right now, if it weren't for the fact that the bleddy UPS chap decided to stick a note in my front door instead of ringing the doorbell.

    Well, I'll be busy today anyway, so I wouldn't be able to give my precious the time and attention she (or would that be he? Hmmmm.) deserves. It's gonna take some time to oil my baby up before I plunge right into some games with her :)

    P.S. - Kevin: If I'm not mistaken, the 9800M GT is an 8800M GTX. The 8800M GTX is a G92 chip.
     
    MrFong, Aug 21, 2008
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  16. Toastyy

    Toastyy Notebook Geek

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    so can anybody link me to some new reviews?
     
    Toastyy, Aug 21, 2008
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  17. racoon

    racoon Notebook Consultant

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    yeh i am looking forward to read some new reviews and a complete set of benchmarks!!!

    Can some one post a link here or tell when they are gonna be out (if they are not out yet!)
     
    racoon, Aug 21, 2008
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  18. Donald@Paladin44

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    Yes, the antennas are installed by Clevo, and the WiFi card will be installed by the OEM.

    So, if you can order it without the WiFi card you can install your own later and the antennas will be there.
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Aug 21, 2008
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  19. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Gavin, she said PNB, not Xotic... :rolleyes:
     
    Donald@Paladin44, Aug 21, 2008
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  20. Kevin

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    My benchmarks, as requested by Gophn and others:
    Forceware 177.89
    3DMark06:
    [​IMG]
    3DMarkVantage:
    [​IMG]
    HDTune:
    [​IMG]
    wPrime1.55:
    [​IMG]
    Cinebench R10:
    [​IMG]
     
    Kevin, Aug 21, 2008
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  21. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    Kevin thanks a lot!
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 21, 2008
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  22. livesoft

    livesoft BUSTED

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    Thank you for the benchmark =) Keep us informed!
     
    livesoft, Aug 21, 2008
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  23. BlueMak

    BlueMak Notebook Evangelist

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    Why does it say Generic VGA?
     
    BlueMak, Aug 21, 2008
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  24. livesoft

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    Maybe because there's no drivers
     
    livesoft, Aug 21, 2008
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  25. SplinteredVision

    SplinteredVision Notebook Consultant

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    this may be a ridiculous question, but do larger hard drives run hotter? For instance, would the 200gb 7200 run cooler than the 320gb 7200?
     
    SplinteredVision, Aug 21, 2008
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  26. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    that's my guess, but from all the posts it looks like the 200gb 7200 runs a little hotter than the 350gb 5400
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 21, 2008
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  27. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    I took some gaming videos with Fraps, but their like 400 megs, how do i make them smaller?
     
    steveninspokane, Aug 21, 2008
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  28. livesoft

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    You encode it in lower resolution, birate and all. You can also choose a better format (eg divx over mpeg). But I never understand why people needs to say video gameplay, considering that there is no difference in the gameplay over 20-30fps (exept if you have the FPS written in one corner :p)
     
    livesoft, Aug 21, 2008
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  29. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    Just upload them to youtube.com or veoh.com, I think they shrink it for you.
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 21, 2008
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  30. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    i did, they didn't.
     
    steveninspokane, Aug 21, 2008
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  31. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    Where is it? I wanna see it...
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 22, 2008
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  32. BlueMak

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    BlueMak, Aug 22, 2008
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  33. gonwk

    gonwk Notebook Deity

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    Dude MrFong ...

    I am really beginning to worry about you ... "My Precious" ... "My Baby" ... :D

    Just kidding ... but couldn't help it ...

    G! :)
     
    gonwk, Aug 22, 2008
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  34. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    My precioussssssssssss.....
    [​IMG]

    :laugh:
     
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  35. Mikelx215

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    We must has it... They has my precious...

    I needs it... We must has it... NOW. We musts kill Frodo Baggins!

    No! We must waits.
     
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  36. youdontneedtoknow

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    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 22, 2008
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  37. robvya

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    nice find there thanks
     
    robvya, Aug 22, 2008
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  38. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    Ok, I posted a short review, with some vids and pics.
     
    steveninspokane, Aug 22, 2008
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  39. vestibule1443

    vestibule1443 Notebook Evangelist

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    we have the same setup except i have the 320GB 5400RPM drive and Vista and you got 100 points higher...

    is it just vista vs xp?
     
    vestibule1443, Aug 22, 2008
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  40. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    Steven did you post that video?
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 22, 2008
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  41. gonwk

    gonwk Notebook Deity

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    IOf you post Video ... use YouTube ... the veoh.com website pretty picky on onboard Software requirements!

    G! :)
     
    gonwk, Aug 22, 2008
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  42. steveninspokane

    steveninspokane John 14:6 - Only ONE Way!

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    yes, I posted the crysis and cod4 vid in my review thread :p
     
    steveninspokane, Aug 22, 2008
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  43. Toastyy

    Toastyy Notebook Geek

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    ahhhhhh wheres the review? link please?
     
    Toastyy, Aug 22, 2008
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  44. youdontneedtoknow

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    but veoh.com let you post very high quality videos...

    Anyway, I just bought HDMI cable but I want to confirm with people who got the NP8660 already. Does the box come with HDMI cable or not?
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 22, 2008
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  45. youdontneedtoknow

    youdontneedtoknow Notebook Evangelist

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    hahaahahahahahahahaaha :spinny:





    Just look for Steven's Official Review thread ...
     
    youdontneedtoknow, Aug 22, 2008
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  46. steveninspokane

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    steveninspokane, Aug 22, 2008
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  47. vestibule1443

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    so about as much of a noob question as you can get but ive never had a laptop before... can someone break down sleep vs hibernate? the different features, costs/benefits, and reasons for using one over the other
     
    vestibule1443, Aug 22, 2008
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  48. BlueMak

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    In sleep more the system will put everything in RAM and "got to sleep". In hibernation the system will put everything in the HDD in a "virtual memory". Both ways saves power and are valid ways if you want to not use your notebook, but you want to continue from whatever you are doing at the moment without having to start every program, etc at the exact time and position etc.

    Good thing about sleep is that it should be faster and if the system senses the battery is reduced a lot, it will copy everything to the HDD before shut down.
    The bad thing is of course that something might interrupt the system anyway while in sleep mode and you risk losing everything that you haven't saved previously.

    Good thing about hibernation is that you don't risk damage if power/battery is cut. Bad thing is that it probably takes more time to resume from it.

    I don't know which uses more power, probably Sleep.

    I have never used either one, with a notebook or desktop PC because I find them useless for me, but others of course would disagree, eh, for themselves.
     
    BlueMak, Aug 22, 2008
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  49. Kevin

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    The first time I ran '06, I scored 9029. That might have been before I upgraded my NVIDIA drivers.

    I have Vista too.
     
    Kevin, Aug 22, 2008
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  50. MrFong

    MrFong Notebook Evangelist

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    Mrrrrrh.

    My NP8660 arrived today. No problems with it so far; the area around the bottom right, were you to view the laptop from above, gets a -little- warm, but nothing spectacular. In point of fact, it's almost welcome; the left side is a little shockingly cold when touched to bare skin. Heh.

    The only problem: I originally ordered Vista Home Premium, but later upgraded my order to Business. The notebook came with Home Premium. Sigh. Any ideas about what can be done without having to wait a few days for whatever (CD, notebook, etc.) to be shipped back and forth? This is especially worry for me because I live halfway round the world, and need Vista Business to connect to my university domain.
     
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