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    *OFFICIAL* Clevo M57ru FAQ & Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Vedya, Jan 10, 2008.

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    If you have done it with a desktop you should have no difficulty with a current laptop.
     
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    naticus Notebook Deity

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    Its actually very simple...on some computers. I changed one on my everex xt5000t ( it had amd turion x2 s1 socket) it was pretty easy.
     
  3. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    See the 8800m GTX isntall guide linked to on the first post
     
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    maksin01 Notebook Deity

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    My 8800M GTX arrived today so I installed it on my Sager NP5790 (specs in my signature.) :) Pretty nice improvement from the 7950GTX. :) Can actually turn up my settings in most games at 1440x900 and 1680x1050 with playable framerates. :D Check out my 3DMark06 score here! ;)
     
  5. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    nice dude congrats.

    Did u OC the GC for that score?
     
  6. maksin01

    maksin01 Notebook Deity

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    There's actually 2 screenshots in there. The first one are the default clocks and the second one is OC'd. OCing only gives me 200 more points so it's not worth it imo. :rolleyes: I'm in love with my 8800M GTX... :D
     
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    laurent_762 Newbie

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    The frequency of M570ru RAM is bridled at 667Mhz, I have 800Mhz. Apparently it is impossible to force the board to accept the 800Mhz. So I want timmings increase in the BIOS, so I tried the latest BIOS (1.00.08) which would normally add tools OC. Unfortunately no additional option is available. ^^
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Are you saying that someone's put up a guide explaining why the 8800M GTX "isnt all" that great??:wink: :wink:

    (just yankin' ya chain :D )
     
  9. eleron911

    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    So no S3 for you?
    How much was it, TOTAL ?(the 88M GTX+shipping)
     
  10. maksin01

    maksin01 Notebook Deity

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    Never really like using sleep / stand by on my notebook so everything seems to be fine. :) I bought it from XoticPC and it's about $745USD (for the card) and $223USD (for shipping to Australia which imo is pretty expensive). Although one wierd thing is that after installing the 8800M GTX my notebook doesn't like me OCing my processor anymore... I used to be able to OC my T7300 2.0GHz to 2.3GHz no problems (using SetFsb) but now sometimes it crashes when I OC it... :confused: (which never happens before)
     
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    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    ARE YOU SERIOUS? 223$ to ship a stinkin GPU that`s less than 1 pound? no offence, but that sounds unfreakinbelieveble.
    Sure, 223$ for the 15pound laptop sound ...erm,sort of ok, but for the GPU? MAN, that SUCKS.
     
  12. maksin01

    maksin01 Notebook Deity

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    I know...>_< but it seems that the shipping cost is the same for anything they ships internationally.
     
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    eleron911 HighSpeedFreak

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    Damn,in that case, IceMan`s offer sounds cheaper lol.
    It`s a good thing I`ll upgrade when in the US :D
    Hopefully the 9800M GTX will get released and I`ll skip the 8th series :D
     
  14. Geforce2go

    Geforce2go Notebook Consultant

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    So, will the 9800M GTX be the same size MXM module as the 8800M?
     
  15. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    More than likely. :)
     
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    Geforce2go Notebook Consultant

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    That's good to know, thanks.
     
  17. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    So, it it gauraneteed it will work w/o mobo replacement?
     
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    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    never that guarantee.

    Like I said before:

    Clevo tries their best to design their notebooks sufficiently for future technology.

    The 8800M GTX requirement of a new motherboard was due to Nvidia changing up the specs of the module from the previous 7950GTX and 8700M GT.
     
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    Geforce2go Notebook Consultant

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    Well if it doesn't, at least the 8800 is high end, so there probably wouldn't be that much of a performance gain in the 9800 anyway.
     
  20. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    not, they do this every single time. all the way back to the beginning.

    you can look at the posts from 2 years ago. and i swear it's funny.

    you can change the words 8800 for 7900 and you couldn't tell the diff.

    it's their plan.

    it's how they do business and how they have been doing it for years.
     
  21. Gophn

    Gophn NBR Resident Assistant

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    Clevo tries to be the innovators, they will move to a next technology before most of the other notebook ODMs.

    So they have to design for future upgrades as sufficiently as possible.

    I was here when the previous generation of Clevo's (mine included) were hoping to upgrade past 7950GTX... I knew it was not going to happen because the 8800M was still a pipedream and there was nothing on the horizon.

    Thats technology... but the sure thing is that Nvidia has not even officially announce their MXM-IV slots in the Clevo's yet... and they have been debuted for a whole year now. :)

    Its freakin bleeding edge still.
     
  22. dexgo

    dexgo Freedom Fighter

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    if they designed their ugprades at all. they wouldn't need a mobo upgrade.

    ala dell.
     
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    dexgo, have you ever actually tried to get a real DELL upgrade, or known of anyone who actually did?

    Was it any cheaper than getting a Sager upgrade even if it required a new motherboard?
     
  24. naticus

    naticus Notebook Deity

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    here are some newer benches with my T7250 @ 2.5ghz:

    [​IMG]
     
  25. maksin01

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    System - T7300 OC'd @ 2.2GHz, 8800mGTX, 3gb RAM, XP SP2, 167.43 drivers overclocked @ [Core: 550, Shader: 1400, Memory: 850].

    [​IMG]

    3DMark06 @ 1280x1024 = 9516

    For more details, click here.
    I've tested a few times and [550, 1400, 850] is the highest stable clocks I can set before my system starts slowing down at random parts in games and 3DMark06.
     
  26. Geforce2go

    Geforce2go Notebook Consultant

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    Good to know you installed the 8800MGTX successfully and get such a great 3DMark06 score with a bit of tweaking.
     
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    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Geforce, is that score on Vista?
     
  28. Jibak

    Jibak Newbie

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    Soon to be a Clevo M57RU owner :D

    Well, a 'Metabox' actually (I live in Australia) just ordered it the other day, should arrive in a week or so!

    I have read every page of this thread (all 33+ pages lol) and you guys pretty much sold me the laptop, with so much information on hand, I think I know pretty much all I need to know about this laptop, which definitely relaxed my nerves.

    Will let you know how I go :)
     
  29. Geforce2go

    Geforce2go Notebook Consultant

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    Certainly is, tested with stock 167.43 drivers @1280x1024. I've now installed Vista Service Pack 1, so it will be interesting to see if there's any improvement.
     
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    treelife Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello,

    I'm planning on buying the M57RU DIVINE-X but I have a bunch of questions before that, that I hope someone here can answer.

    Here are the specs that I have in mind from eurocom:
    Built-in WebCam: None
    17 Glossy WXGA 1440-by-900 pixels
    8x Multi DVD +-RW/-RAM Burner
    T7700: 2.40GHz; FSB800
    Go 7950GTX 512MB
    1x 2GB DDR2-800
    120GB 7,200rpm
    Operating System: None
    Wireless LAN: None
    Bluetooth: None
    1 Extra Power Cord: USA/Canada

    Total: 1864 CAD + shipping + tax
    (As you can see it is stripped down to lower the customs duty and VAT. I will buy Wireless LAN and Zalman ZM-NC2000B and 1 extra GB RAM and probably windows XP OEM in Europe)


    Does anyone here have any experience with Eurocoms service? (I’ve e-mailed them twice now and still haven’t got any replies from them yet. And now it’s Easter so I guess I’ll have to wait till Tuesday)

    Why isn’t there any difference in price for RAM between 667 and 800 MHz?

    Have anyone with a somewhat similar system as above tested supreme commander and how smooth that runs?

    I’ve heard that you can use OS X and emulate XP, is that true and does it work well with games? (I’ve never used OS X)

    Eurocom gives three options for wireless LAN:
    802.11a/b/g WLAN; 54Mbps; Intel® Wireless 3945ABG; NAPA; MiniPCIe
    802.11n; up to 300Mbps; Intel® Wireless WiFi 4965AGN; Mini PCIe; 2.4 and 5GHz
    802.11n; up to 300Mbps; Wireless Wi-Fi; Gigabyte GN-WI06N-RH; PCIe Mini Card; 2.4 and 5GHz
    What’s the difference and does it matter which one I choose?

    How long would a notebook like this last? …2 years?

    As I won’t get an answer from Eurocom soon I’ll ask here: do they only ship with courier mail internationally? I don’t mind waiting two weeks for the package (with regular air mail) and it wouldn’t arrive in three days anyway because of the customs. (My previous experience with ordering from North America with UPS is not good: the package was delayed 3 weeks + absurdly high brokerage fees + nonexistent customer service.)

    Eurocom only accepts wire transfer with international orders and as I have never done that to Canada or US before I don’t know if the receiving banks (in this case Bank of Montreal) charge any fees – in which case there would be another delay as Eurocom doesn’t get the whole payment. Anyone here know if they do?

    I’m very grateful for answers to any of my questions or directions to where I can get them.
     
  31. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Welcome to NBR treelife !!! :)

    On the Specs:

    Its OK, but I would strongly suggest upgrading to the 8800m GTX. Its 2x faster than the 7950 GTX. I f price is too high, ask about their student discount.

    It will last at least 2yrs, with the 8800, being able to play games for the next couple of years.

    For the wireless, it depends on the router you havem although I would go with the 2nd or 3rd one.

    Look at the follwoing resellers in Europe:

    Rock Direct
    Kobalt Computers
    Evesham

    Also, try Xoticpc.

    Good Luck!!!
     
  32. treelife

    treelife Notebook Enthusiast

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    thanks!

    I'm tempted about the 8800m gtx.

    thanks for the tip.
    I couldn't find any configuration to my liking from those resellers so I'm back to Eurocom - changing to 8800m gtx it would cost 2114 CAD + shipping + tax... it's definitely tempting.
     
  33. Sandman101

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    Never Mind.
     
  34. Vedya

    Vedya There Is No Substitute...

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    Are you from canada tree life?
     
  35. hanko panko

    hanko panko Notebook Evangelist

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    Check again, your display and ram do not seem right.
    Apart from that:
    1. consider to go for faster, newer and cooler T9300
    2. if you have some money to spare go for the 8800, it "belongs" to this rig :)
    3. the wlan 4965 runs much faster in my NP5973 than the 3945 in my NP9261
    4. this notebook will "last" 3 years before it submerges in mainstream
    5. check Xoticpc for good prices and let Eurocom give you a fair discount to level that
     
  36. treelife

    treelife Notebook Enthusiast

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    I'm from sweden. ...though I plan on going to Canada late this year or next year - in case that extra power cord puzzled you :)
     
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    treelife Notebook Enthusiast

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    how good is that NZXT CRY-001LX cooler you have Sandman101? compared to ZM-NC2000 which one is best suited for M57RU in terms of vent holes matching with the fans?
     
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    treelife Notebook Enthusiast

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    will 1440x900 look weird on a 17'?
    Can I use XP on T9300? if yes, then, 10 extra CAD is nothing.
    I'll probably buy 4965 then.
    thanks!
     
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    No, 1440x900 is a good resolution for a 17" screen...you just wouldn't want to go any lower

    Yes, you can use the T9300 with XP.

    Enjoy :)
     
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    treelife Notebook Enthusiast

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    T9300 it is then. thanks.
    by the way, what's the brightness, response time and contrast ratio on these displayers?
    and where do I put the second RAM memory - a picture would be nice?
     
  41. Sandman101

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    I haven't had a lot of time for testing yet.
    What program is good for simulating a load for testing?

    Depending on the ambient temperature I seems to lower by a few Celsius. It is very quiet at low speeds. It is very solidly built. My one gripe at this point is that it did not come with any type of manual.
    I am looking for power adapter, today, to test any difference in running it off of usb or AC.

    Also, it's not as heavy as I though it would be.
     
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    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    In today's world manuals come on the driver CD.

    Paper has become obsolete!
     
  43. Shyster1

    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Ya know, I was just going to post that same thought, but I couldn't find the yellow sticky I'd written it on.:twitcy:
     
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    Shyster1, I'm not sure you have enough to do :wink:
     
  45. treelife

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    I've done some extensive searching and it's impossible to find the NZXT CRY-001LX in Europe, so I guess I'll have to go with Zalman ZM-NC2000.
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The manual for the Sager NP5793 (aka Clevo M570RU) can be downloaded off the Clevo website from this download page. The english version of the manual can be directly downloaded from here(sftp) or here(ftp).
     
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    terek Notebook Consultant

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    is there any difference of installing Xp home or Pro on the Sager NP5793?? Difference as in performance in gaming or anything else??
     
  48. eleron911

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    Not really. They`ll be the same in terms of performance, but the Professional version will have some more features.
    Good ol` www.google.com will help :)
     
  49. EdiT808

    EdiT808 Notebook Evangelist

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    From what i see in the AW lounge the guys there are testing the load with this.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=233146

    I used ATI tool to test load, but this one looks intense gunna try it when i get my NP5793
     
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    Sorry, thought I replied to treelife. I meant the NZXT CRY-001LX has no paperwork and since it doesn't come with a disk. In fact there wasn't one piece of documentation in the box.
    I am also having a few problems with it. When I plug it into the usb port I get a error from windows saying that "A power surge has been detected in the usb hub, to correct....blah, blah...."
    Which is another reason why I'm looking for the AC adapter for the cooler pad.
    I have already contacted NZXT and let them know although I am happy with the product. If it won't work with my laptop, I will be sending it back to newegg.
    Thanks EDiT808 - I'll give it a go. Also looking for a CPU one.
     
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