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Hi all. I had a question (a probably very simple one, but I am a big noob when it comes to hardware). My video card failed on me, probably from overheating one too many times. I was getting a black screen, but could hear windows starting up.

Anyway, I wanted to get a replacement part that wouldn't require having to do anything too advanced: flashing the bios, etc. My current (non-functioning) card is a 8800M GTX, so I was debating on going for the same one. I found an auction on ebay:

Alienware M17X / M15X Nvidia 8800M GTX 512MB Video Card | eBay

It says its for an Alienware, but was hoping I could just use it straight out for my m57ru. Is that possible?

The other question I had is that the BIOS version on the card is a slightly different BIOS than what is on my defunct one. Will this cause problems?

I appreciate any advice I can get on this, as I was happy with my notebook (save for the loud noise).

 

This is the card I bought - Avermedia A301 DVB T Analog TV FM Tuner Mini Pci-e Card - eBay (item 300575544128 end time Jul-10-11 08:14:04 PDT)

 

DVB-T? So you are in Europe or Australia?
Coaxial cable - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia You can measure the laptop connector to figure out what our laptop came with. Then you would buy an HDTV antenna with that connector. Or an adapter for CATV for whatever is local to you.

 

I'm in North America. It would be interesting if I could connect a small External Wifi Antenna to the tv port, like the ones you see on Desktop PCI wifi cards.

 

I do not think that card will work with North America TV signals.

 

You are correct, sir. The card MUST be NTSC if you are in North America.

 

The Avermedia A301 is suppose to support world wide signals - Pal, NTSC, and Secam, and it's suppose to be compatible with Vista / Windows 7

Windows Vista Compatibility Avermedia AVerMedia A301 Mini-Card Hybrid DVB-T

 

From the linked page

"PAL/SECAM/NTSC analog TV system"

There are no over the air 'analog' broadcasts in North America anymore. It will however work with unscrambled CATV.

But I imagine the card will be in hand soon.

 

I finally recieved the Avermedia A301 and installed it. It works in media center but it won't recognize the DVB-T digital broadcast. not sure if it's a problem with the driver, or I need another app. I noticed the device manager thinks ats an HP device, I wonder if it works with HP Quickplay?

 

DVB-T - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

what is your dvb-t source in North America?

 

Just a heads up for anyone wondering how this notebook handles Battlefield 3, and the answer at the moment is poorly. I got in to the Alpha trial which probably is not yet optimized for a wider range of PCs, and was only able to play for about a minute or so, before a CTD, and a failed driver recovery error. This occured with the WHQL 275.33 drivers, 275.50 beta and the recommended beta driver 280.19. This was with the 8800M GTX (specs in sig), and as well as the CTD after spawning, the framerate was well below 20fps in most cases.

I reported these issues in the BF3 Alpha forums, so hopefully Dice might optimize the game more for Core 2 Duo machines, but to be brutally frank, anyone not using a quad core, or a 64-bit operating system will probably struggle to play the game reasonably without major issues.

I hope I'm wrong but for a 3+ year old core 2 duo gaming notebook, I shouldn't have really expected much more. Hopefully I'm wrong, and it was just due to an unoptimized alpha build of the game, but as there is only three months till the games release, I'm not holding my breath.

Looks like I'm now finally going to have to upgrade to a quad core, but It's been good while it's lasted.

 

This notebook will handle a quad core CPU, right?

 

As far as I am aware some later M570ETU revisions supports Core 2 Duo Extreme quads, but M570RU does not...?

 

I'm thinking of selling my notebook (in sig) so I can upgrade for BF3 but as it's 3+ years old, I don't think I'll get that much for it.

So is it worth it, and does anyone know the average price these now go for?

 

A used older notebook with your specs might get around $300-400 if it's in good shape. You may have better luck parting it out piece by piece though. The NBR marketplace is a good place to start getting ideas either way:

NBR Marketplace

 

Thank you, those prices seem fair. It's also in pretty good nic, so I might try for the $400 - £250+ mark.

 

Well it finaly happend to me as well after 2 years of solid gaming my 8800m gtx has kicked the bucket.After a blue screen of death the screen displays moving lines and colours on the screen.However windows loads in the back ground?Could it be a screen issue,i tryed an exturnal monitor,with no luck.
I removed the gpu but the system does not boot.

Should i try the baking method?

helllp

 

unlikely.

what have you to lose?

 

Ok did the bake method...........................IT WORKS..for now i guess,played a few rounds on bfbc2,ran fur mark for 10 min @81 degrees.However when i looked at the card ,along the edge there are some small circuts in a row of about 5 or so,one of them has snaped off in the process.(would take a photo but dont want to jinks it]but it works,good temps,stable clocks????

 

,If u look at the top right of the card there are 6 circuts third one down is snapped off,what is it?

 

Surface mount ceramic capacitors probably for bypass or filtering the high frequency noise from the supply line on the board.

 

Any one know where i can score Clevo M57RU hinges and a case? Thanks!

 

You can get accesories, LCD hinges and a keyboard from RJTech but I don't think they sell the cases.

Clevo Laptop Parts :: M57xRU - R&J Technology, Clevo Barebone Notebook kits, Laptop and desktop system builder

 

Resurrecting an M570RU (Extreme Edition)

Hello guys,
I' recently bought a M570 with a defective 8800M GTX on ebay and it arrived today.
When powered on with the defective card, the screen lit up, notebook booted, however no screen output. Well, that was't really a big surprise, considering that the card is defective But, overall the device seems to be working just nicely.
I popped in a 9300M GS DDR3 then, for testing purposes with a passive cooler on top, no issue, as the card barely creates any heat anyway. Notebook powered on, I got a somewhat "blurryish" picture (hard to describe, card only seems to work in 8-bit mode) , I could enter the BIOS, boot the laptop (old user left the OS on the HDD) up to the login screen, but after a few seconds, the laptop started beeping loudly around 12 times and then powered off.
Ok. No biggie, 9300M GS VGA bios/card seems to be incompatible. (it surely wasn't overheating or anything, it works fine in my Fujitsu PI 1556, unmodded Bios, even without the dreaded MXM error)
I then stripped a Quadro 770M from one of my Pi 1556s (with MXM structure error modded away), popped that one in with the passive cooler, powered on, got a crystal-clear, crisp Bios splash screen, could enter the Bios and read out the Bios revision number as 1.00.08, however, after a while the laptop started also peeping with this card, and eventually powered off after like 12 peeps. Also here, overheating of the card can be ruled out as cause, cooler was making perfect contact.
Same scenario with a defective 9600M GT I had lying around, laptop powers on just fine (no screen output., but that was to be expected), but eventually starts beeping and shuts down. So in conclusion, what to do?

Do I need a newer mainboard Bios version to run a 9000 series MXM II card in this laptop?
Or does the 770M need to be flashed to a 9600M GT? Don't think so, as my defective 9600M GT also beeped.

I burned 5793bv13s.iso Bios (seems to be 1.0013., the latest, right?) on a CD, but I am hesitant to try a complete BIOS blindflash with the semi-dead 8800M GTX inside, as I won't be able to get any feedback from the notebook (I'll try the oven-baking as soon as I get my soldering honey 'Löthonig' Löthonig ? Wikipedia , hopefully on Monday)
Also what keys do I need to press in order to initiate the update procedure?
Is it "F" for KBC, and "B" for Bios, as stated here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/317739-newest-bios-firmware-m570ru-u-sager-np5793-6.html ?
What's the expected behaviour during the update, does the notebook power off on it's own to signal update completion, or do I have to turn it off...?
I don't want to brick the mainboard Bios.

Thanks for reading, your thoughts about this would be much appreciated.

 

O.k quick update here. I managed to revive the dead 8800M GTX with heatgun and updated KBC and the mainboard Bios, Now, I have to wait until the 8800M GTX fails again to test whether a 770M will work as a replacement.

 

you dont HAVE to wait.....

 

Well, as long as the 8800M holds up, I'm not going to tear the machine apart again,
as the 770m would be the way inferior card and also need some
tinkering to fit the heatsink on, but I'll see. Or not....
So far, I haven't had a single GPU crash during test-playing COD4 or Race Driver Grid.
Temps are also within normal range and don't go beyond 68°C on normal fan control. Under forced full speed even lower, of course.
Seems as if the flux has done a decent job, but you never know.
Failure could be imminent within minutes
Next step would be undervolting the GPU, may help keeping it even cooler.
Any recommendations as to what can be expected being stable?

 

All right, since nobody seems to be reading this thread anymore, I'll continue my monologue in solitude. 0.9V turned out to be rock-stable under gaming conditions, below that the driver immediately failed upon entering Extra clocks. Can't really tell 100% sure how much that shaved off the max temps, but it seems like 3°C to me.
Is there going to be any point in lowering the 2D voltage?

 

What am I, chopped liver?

 

Oops, sry. Didn't mean to tread on your feelings, old buddy.
But apart from you, my faithful companion, there's only a lot of tumbleweed...
<btw> You know what brand/type of bluetooth module fits into this lady?
Anything to be taken into account, like connector and so on?

 

Hey everyone,

Long time M570 owner here. Mine is Mouse Computer branded one sold in Japan only version. I've read a few unsuccessful reports regarding using 8GB ram so I thought I would stop in and report mine was successful.

At first using bios 1.00.08J it would not boot. After flashing to 1.00.13aSL which I found in a different thread on this board it works just fine.

Now to find a Core2Quad! Although I don't think there is sufficient voltage and heat dissipation to support it. Has anyone had success doing that?

 

Hi all, I replaced the noisy A-Power fans with very quiet Forcecon models. Both are 5V, 0.5 Amps, and are a great fit, only some excess plastic hooks need to be ground of here and there, and the air outlet must be slightly adjusted to fit into the fan frames. Overall temperature on the GPU has risen maybe 2-3° C, (no change on the CPU) but the greatly reduced noise level is well worth the trade-off. Additionally, I lowered the throttling temperature of the 8800M GTX to 75°C with NiBitor, but the card always stays well below that level during gaming.
CPU fan is a Forcecon F5C7-CCW DFB451005M20T, GPU fan is the F6G3-CCW, DFS531205M30T model.

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Anyone know the pin layout of the casefan port (the one near the CPU fan), i.e. which pin is plus (red), minus (black) and the yellow fan signal pin?
Anyone ever plugged a fan in there?

 

i tuned on my m57ru this morning only to find it started beeping away just after the bios screen. i turned it off then on again, this time it started beeping when the ram checking gets done in the bios screen - the beeping stopped while the ram was being checked. im wondering why it did that, anyway now its ok.

it was a very cold day last night, could the coldness have anything to do with it? is my laptop about to break down? advice please. as i would hate to have this laptop die on me its done me very good.

 

Have you tried running something like memtest86+ to see if your RAM is going bad? You'll want to give it a couple passes (this can take an hour or two) to make sure you don't miss anything.

 

thanks will give that memtest a shot

 

Hello every one!
I recently bought a clevo m570ru from Plaisio computers sa. Its the version with t7700, 2gigas of ram and 8700mgt. I already upgraded ram and cpu with 4gigas and t9300 and im thinking of upgrading vga card too. I have found 9800mgt and 280m gt. Will this laptop support these upgrades?

 

9800M GT is compatible yes. 280M not (in a simple way)

Does anyone have a spare M570RU motherboard ??

Thanks

 

Does anyone know if a 9600m GT card will work? It should be faster than a 8700M GT.

 

Actually, not really. The 9600m GT is barely faster than the 8600m GT. So, in all reality, the 8700m GT is faster than the 9600m GT despite it being an older card.

Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List - Notebookcheck.net Tech

 

In case anybody needs a replacement for his dead 8800M GTX, I can supply a few replacement cards NVidia 3600M Quadro, which are equally fast (around 9550 3D Mark 06) and run around 68°C max under full load. They also shouldn't suffer from any premature failure, as they are latest production dates with greatly improved solder. Willing to ship worldwide, so if anybody is interested, send me a pm.

 

Hi does anybody have a recent link for the M571ru-u .13 bios and keybord firmware?

 

I don't know if thats true or not about the improved solder. I don't think it is, every g92 A revision still has some issues (a number of 9800m GT are A3 revision).

What is definitely true is that Quadro cards generally haven't been used as much as gaming cards, so they are usually in better condition.

I can also supply some quadro cards. Loopsters are better, but my 2700m, I will go 99$ shipped worldwide. I'm on Ebay too.
These cards are a step up from 8700m GT.

 

Hi guys, not sure if I am posting in the right spot for this but I hope so I am having some issues with my sager np5792 (I believe it is the 5792 I don't remember and is only labeled with Clevo M570RU-U). When gaming I am having the computer go dead. I loose sound and video and keyboard function so I assume that nothing else is working either. The screen stays back-lit and I have to power down by holding the power button. The issue is intermittent so I have been having a hard time figuring out what it is.

I have stress test the video card using FurMark. There where never any instances while doing this and the max temp my card reached was 60.

Memory has been tested with memtest86+ as well as the cpu and memory with prime 95. Again top temps were 60.

Tested HDD for errors using Hitachi's Drive Fitness Test. Pass.

Computer is clean and dust free (clean on a regular basis). Drivers are all clean installs and up to date. I am at a loss for what my issue is, any help would be much appreciated. System specs are as follows :

Intel Core2 Duo CPU T8100 @ 2.10GHz
4GB DDR2 (PC2-5300)
GeForce 9800M GTS 512MB
Hitachi HTS722020k9A300 200GB SATA
Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP2

 

This page:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/317739-newest-bios-firmware-m570ru-u-sager-np5793-6.html

 

Did you succeed ? I'm not keen on recompiling my kernel with a custom DSDT if it doesn't help...

I've been limiting myself to Knoppix during a long time, and finally made some room for Ubuntu (11.10 right now). Unfortunately, recent Ubuntu-packaged Nvidia drivers (namely 280.13) fail, with the following messages :

Code:

Feb 25 01:53:54 NovHak-p kernel: [   19.116398] ACPI Warning: For \_SB_.PCI0.PEGP.VGA_.MXMI: Excess arguments - needs 1, found 2 (20110413/nspredef-320)
Feb 25 01:53:54 NovHak-p kernel: [   19.116614] ACPI Warning: For \_SB_.PCI0.PEGP.VGA_.MXMI: Excess arguments - needs 1, found 2 (20110413/nspredef-320)
Feb 25 01:53:54 NovHak-p kernel: [   19.116827] ACPI Warning: For \_SB_.PCI0.PEGP.VGA_.MXMS: Excess arguments - needs 1, found 2 (20110413/nspredef-320)
Feb 25 01:53:54 NovHak-p kernel: [   19.116832] NVRM: nv_acpi_mxms_method: MXMS data invalid!
Feb 25 01:54:30 NovHak-p kernel: [   54.910406] NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus.

The X display becomes completely frozen. With acpi=off, ACPI-related messages don't show up of course, but the X display still freezes. I tried acpi_osi=Linux, acpi_osi="!Windows 2006", with no better result.

I suspect the same will happen with newer driver versions as well, since I met the same problem on Knoppix last summer. If a DSDT fix solves the problem I will certainly go for it... I know there are newer BIOS versions, but considering the changes address different problems I doubt it would change anything. I had a bad BIOS update experience in the past (that was with an HP machine), since then I don't consider BIOS upgrades lightly.

In case I'm not the only one interested, I will create a thread for this.

EDIT : I have a M571RU-U (i.e. M57xRU silver), BIOS : 1.00.07, with an Nvidia 8800M GTX, VideoBIOS: 62.92.19.00.a3

 

Hey all, I am currently having an issue with my Clevo m57ru. I went to go boot up a couple of days ago and the screen is totally black/blank. I tried connecting to an external monitor and for some reason that didn't work as well. When I start it up, everything is normal except for the screen, no beeping or flickering.

How would I know if its the display inverter? Could it be someone got unplugged, where is the inverter located so I could try to troubleshoot it?

Specs:
Killer Notebooks Executioner SR WUXGA+ 1920x1200 Glassview
Core 2 Extreme x7800 2.6 GHz
4GB DDR2-800
nVidia 8700m GT
160 GB 7,200 rpm
270 Mbps a/b/g/N
Dual Layer DVD Burner

If the video card is done, how much would it be to replace it?

Also, if I were to go this route, would it be a better idea to part it out and sell, or sell the whole thing together? What would my set up be worth, these days? Its about 3-3.5 years old.

Thanks.

 

Hi Jay,

I don't know more than you about this inverter thing, but as far as a replacement card is concerned. you can check MXM Upgrade Home Page. They have a 9800M GTS for sale here for the price of €175. They say 9800GTS, but I suppose it's a mistake...

On their site, from the menu bar, choose Platforms=>Notebooks=>1.3/2.1, you will get a list of notebooks including yours. They have a technical section too, about how to change your card.

This card has an MXM-HE connector, which means an additional power connector. While it should probably work even if your computer misses that connector, it may then fail under gaming conditions and/or some battery conditions. If you have an M57xRU-U you should have an MXM-HE connector (you can tell if you can read “Extreme Edition” on the enclosure, which is far from being certain considering your current GPU). Plus, you should make sure your BIOS would accept a different GPU... if it doesn't, an upgrade to the most recent version should solve this.

Hope this helps !

 

Hello; I am new...I have a Sager M57RU...don't know which NP model But I need help with my headphone jack; I can only hear from one side. If I hold it upward then I hear both...probably a short. But I want to know if I can install a new DVI out that can support audio? Thanks!

 

DVI port does not support audio, HDMI does. Which video card do you have?
Assuming you have 8800M GTX, the 8800M GTX Clevo vBIOS does not handle HDMI out, you will have to flash the 9800M GT vBIOS for M570RU.
Here are some relevant threads:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/499236-8800m-gtx-hdmi-output.html
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo/543866-vbios-update-8800m-gtx-9800m-gt.html#post7006342

The second thread has a link to the 9800M GT vBIOS for M570RU thanks to Tirenz, see the flash instructions in the bottom of that page.

You could also use the SPDIF / Optical Out for your audio.

 

Has anyone tried 8GB in a M570RU with the 13aSL Bios?