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    **M980NU (X1/Commanche SLI/NP9850) Owners Thread**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by Pman, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. maozdawgg

    maozdawgg Notebook Geek

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    Okay so here's another question. A close friend just received his Clevo M980NU (he bought it barebone from RJTech) and we are wondering if there is any bag/backpack that can fit this 18.4" monster?
     
  2. Neil@Kobalt

    Neil@Kobalt Company Representative

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    Np Moo, if we can help we will :)

    I know we are now shipping all 980NUs/Comanche SLIs with black shoulderbags so I would assume all resellers are also doing so or will follow suit. I assume as it was bought barebones they didn't include the bag (?) but you should be able to get the standard Clevo bag for the chassis from them or another reseller.
     
  3. maozdawgg

    maozdawgg Notebook Geek

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    He did receive a briefcase-type bag that does fit that came with it but it is very thin walls with virtually no padding. And a person would have to be insane to trust the transport safety of the largest and 1 of the most powerful notebooks in the world right now to that! :D

    I should've made my question clear which is: are there any quality bags with plenty of padding that can fit this 18.4" laptop? (aka good brands like swiss gear, and the such?)

    Probably not since the M980NU probably represents less than 0.01% of the laptop market and so I won't be surprised if no big name bag makers make any of these unless Dell/HP/Alienware/etc. decides to adopt this as the flagship platform to replace the 17" in the near future.
     
  4. kagey

    kagey Notebook Consultant

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    I'll let you know when the NP9850 arrives as I have a Targus TXL617 backpack waiting. I also have a 18" Rosewill notebook sleeve for it so hopefully it will fit in the backpack w/sleeve. Both from Newegg.
    Based on the actual inside measurements the laptop should fit but it's tight. I'll do pics too one way or the other. :D
    Also some customer reviews say they've fit laptops the size of the M980NU into this backpack. If not I'll be returning it.
     
  5. maozdawgg

    maozdawgg Notebook Geek

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    Aha. Thanks for the heads up. Looks like a couple of people on newegg did claim that this fits some kind of Acer laptop that's also 18.4" Again thanks alot for the advice!
     
  6. kagey

    kagey Notebook Consultant

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    NP and that's how I based my purchase but until I get it and it fits I won't know for sure. Hopefully by end of week and we will know.
     
  7. hottestzephyr

    hottestzephyr Notebook Consultant

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    I think Alienware Orion will fit very well if its dimension same as Alienware claimed. you'll get both Alienware and Sager. you can call them the most powerful laptop & All powerful backpack :D
     
  8. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    The m17x fit very easily for me with some room to spair but I can't garuntee a 18 inch ...
     
  9. kagey

    kagey Notebook Consultant

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    Into what Moo the Orion or the Targus or other?
     
  10. fatpanda

    fatpanda Notebook Consultant

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    :D

    i have been speaking with them over the past few days. At first they said they couldn't find anything wrong with it :mad: .

    But after some discussion they found one of the hdd's failed, and have replaced it. As it did with my tests, the raid 0 seemed to mask the HD error, and it was only when raid was removed and each hdd was scanned individually that it was found. :)

    However the gpu temperature issues are another matter. The tech i spoke to does not believe the cards can be/are running at 100c because the unit's surface is not hot to touch, and the air being expelled is not hot enough. She thinks it is a software issue tha is giving off false readings, as there was also some problem with a corrupt vista install - which has now been reinstalled. She had not retested the cards after the reinstall, when we spoke so i do not know if it fixed the results. This does not make sense to me however as the temps for the processor were showing normal range temps in the programs i used i.e. hwmonitor, speedfan, gpu-z and occt.

    The software they use to stress test is prime95 and burnintest, which although it was not made clear at the time, i'm pretty sure from what was said they seem to show no issues and are running with no errors on the system.

    I have asked her to use occt gpu test also as that was what i used to obtain the high temps. I also asked if they would run the tests on a comparable system to compare temps. I was assured that they would and they also reassured me they would not send the system back to me unless they were sure it was fine.

    Although the tech was very helpful and listened to my worries, i am still slightly worried that they have not replicate the temps i was getting, and therefore will ship it back claiming the cards are ok, only to have them melt on me a month or 2 down the line, not to mention damage the surrounding components and motherboard in the process :(

    I will hopefully get some good news tomorrow :)
     
  11. kagey

    kagey Notebook Consultant

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    Panda - Sounds like some good news that they replicated the bad hdd and that is fixed along with the OS issue. All you can do now is hope they will follow through on the GPU issue.
     
  12. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    tell em to run OCCT GPU or something that will stresss the gpu right up and then look at the temps

    Everyone elsse with a m980 not had a problem with incompatible software...
     
  13. fatpanda

    fatpanda Notebook Consultant

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    i was very happy when she said they found the problem hdd - no more annoying clicking/knocking/system beeps :cool:

    i didn't even know there was a os issue, i did not notice any problems at all :confused: but glad they fixed it though :)

    Just the gpu thing left ........ :)

    The tech said the burnintest stresses the gpu's to the max ( i have no experience with the program, but after reading about it it appears to be a well regarded and intense tester), but i did request she try OCCT gpu, on both my system and another system with 2 280m's to compare the results.

    I have not read about anyone else having software issues with occt/hwmonitor/gpu-z/or speed fan, but it is possible i suppose. Especially as the odds of 2 dodgy gpu's at the one time must be very high. It would seem more likely that it was a software issue. But i can only wait and see with high hopes and baited breath. :)

    here's hoping i get good news.
     
  14. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    ill be interested to see what they come up with, esp as you seem to be alot hotter then the rest of us
     
  15. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    Fat pandas usually are.
     
  16. Miss Malevolent

    Miss Malevolent Notebook Consultant

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    *ba dum dum* *cymbal crash*
     
  17. madpoet

    madpoet Notebook Evangelist

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    Been playing Batman: Arkham Asylum at full rez, physix on, graphics at the highest levels, and 4xAA. Averages 35 FPS. If I had newer drivers I'd likely do even better. Looks amazing.
     
  18. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    yes it does , i been playing for a week now as well
    :)
     
  19. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    They have a benchmark out now in the 1.1 patch . Would love to see what numbers you guys get at those settings.
     
  20. Malignant

    Malignant Notebook Ninja

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    So how's the screen on this monster... >.>
     
  21. kagey

    kagey Notebook Consultant

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    I think the colors are vibrant crisp and clear.
     

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  22. Malignant

    Malignant Notebook Ninja

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    so its pretty bright then and do whites have any graininess and call ya tell me what model it is? use everest.
     
  23. maozdawgg

    maozdawgg Notebook Geek

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    hey kagey, have you tried fitting it inside the targus backpack?
     
  24. Malignant

    Malignant Notebook Ninja

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    Ok so is the lcd in this dual lamp or not, on xoticpc's website it lists as dual lamp yet no where else is dual lamp listed.
     
  25. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    Don't shoot the messenger, but it is single lamp. :)
     
  26. kagey

    kagey Notebook Consultant

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    Yes I have and here are the picks. It fits snug but that's with the sleeve on it too. Now there's like two or three other compartments for other stuff. Plenty of room. Of course gonna be heavy lugging it around.
    8595aa pic shows it in the rosewill sleeve snug as a bug in the backpack and tucked in.
    8596aa pic (sorry little blurry) show laptop in sleeve and in bag opened a bit. No issues at all with sleeve fits fine without stretching.
    8597aa pic shows laptop in backpack about zipped up.

    I like the backpack and I'm sure my nephew will enjoy lugging it around when I turn the thing over to him.
     

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  27. kagey

    kagey Notebook Consultant

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    Here you go.
     

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  28. kagey

    kagey Notebook Consultant

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    Just wanted to say it has arrived!!! :D :cool:
    Received the Sager NP9850 on Thursday afternoon and been loading and messing with it when I've had time in the last 30 hrs. ;)
    First thing I did other than drool :p was to swap out CPU for QX9300 and HDD for SSD. Then started loading.
    Just got done with Vantage and scores are fine but seem a little low to other M980NU owners but that could be due to Win7 or the drivers I'm using, not sure. Everything has been run at stock no OC yet. Also ran OCCT CPU / GPU for heat and some benchies and will post as soon as I can but busy weekend so I'll get to posting and running more benchies sometime soon. :mad:

    Have not used on Cryo laptop cooler yet.
    Ambient room temp was 25c/77F so fairly warm IMO.

    OCCT CPU test - Avg Cores after 3 hrs was 70c. Highest was 73c. Starting CPU temps were 35c. GPU temps never went higher than 45c.
    Ran GPU test soon after so didn't let laptop cool down much at all.
    OCCT GPU test - Avg 84c after 20 mins. CPU ended at avg 39c between the 4 cores. Highest GPU temp was 88c. Starting GPU temps were 45c and CPU temp was 52c.

    Last but not least want to say thanks to Donald and PowerNotebooks for putting up with my emails, phone calls, etc. while we waited for Sager to release it. :)
     

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  29. r0me

    r0me Notebook Enthusiast

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    thx for the truth...when will a 17+ come with a true dual lamp or RGB LED.it seems like for the sake of cost efficiency it will never come.At least give us the option of paying for it...
     
  30. Pman

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    pala are you sure it is a single lamp my tech manual says dual lamp?
     
  31. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    @kagey: Which CPU did you replace with the qx9300?
     
  32. fatpanda

    fatpanda Notebook Consultant

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    :)

    got the beast back :cool:

    novatech replaced 2 harddrives, and both gtx 280m's.

    i ran occt straight away and there is a vast improvement with the new cards.

    the old ones reached 102c after 15mins on lower resoultion. These ones reached 93c and 91c after 1 hour @ 1920x1080, with 0 errors :cool:

    not 72c like pman, but they took 30mins to get to that temp then very slowly rised over time to the 93c and 91c

    the hd clicking is still there though, not as often but definately there. :(

    maybe its a powersaving thing or something.

    to anyone with 3x500gb 7200rpm hdd's and no clicking - what is your setup like ? raid ? partitions etc

    i'm delighted though, as the gpu's were worring me no end.

    also novatech replaced the gpu's to be on the safe side, although they didn't find any errors with the first 2 cards. Talk about good customer service :)
     
  33. kagey

    kagey Notebook Consultant

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    P9700 and the HDD was a 320gb drive.
    Not sure what I'm going to do with them yet. Barebones or sell.
     
  34. fatpanda

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    has anyone updated their bios to 1.05 ?

    what changes have been made from the original 1.01?
     
  35. D2 Ultima

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    I got a question for you guys with the M980NU, does anyone have 8GB RAM with it? And if so does the chipset really limit your RAM amount to 6.8GB? Because if it does limit it then I'd be forced to get the alienware should I ever need to buy a gaming beastie, and I rather like Sagers now XD
     
  36. Mandrake

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    I've run into the situation before where it was the controller was bad and made any hard drive you put in act like it's faulty. Rare but possible.
     
  37. fatpanda

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    mandrake can you be more specific ? what do you mean by controller ? software? how did you fix it?
     
  38. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    Let me know if you plan on selling the proc. I can help you recoup some of the money spent on the M980.
     
  39. Mandrake

    Mandrake Notebook Nobel Laureate NBR Reviewer

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    In your case it would be a motherboard replacement. Does it click while in windows? Maybe some stuttering when clicking?
     
  40. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Its the same exact screen the Asus W90 used and is Single lamp . Unless Samsung produced a Dual lamp version of the same panel which is possible i suppose but unlikely . From the pics though it still looks pretty nice :).
     
  41. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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  42. Pman

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    i can answer one question the m980 does support full 8gb

    re the screen i thought it was dual lamp, i mean the screen is easily the equal to any other laptop screen i have ever had and superiour to many many of them
     
  43. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yes from the pics it looks nice . I would love to see one in person but theres no resellers in Michigan sadly .
     
  44. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    it looks alot better in that pic then 90% of the other ones .....
     
  45. jlpfr

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    Okay, another followup to the bag question, and I posted this in the accessories forum but no one seems ot have any opinion on this.

    www.bigbadbags.com --> anyone ever heard of this company/product?
     
  47. Mandrake

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    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    That isn't the bios kaltmond had that was evidenally a special bios made for some reseller
     
  49. jlpfr

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    I dont know, have't one bios with O/C possible, I would like to find one :D
    if someone could do this for me...

    thanks ;)
     
  50. Pman

    Pman Company Representative

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    thats a beta bios that clevo were considering, there is another one that is oing the rounds with "advanced overclocking" options. so you have 2 ways of doing it the 5/10/15% way for ease and set of advanced options for those who want then
     
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