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    **M570TU/ETU (Sager 5796/5797) Owners Thread**

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by emike09, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. Soviet Sunrise

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    Try Kobalt. Shoot them a PM and see if they have any left.
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Oct 10, 2009
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  2. RealMJtm

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    thx. will try.
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 10, 2009
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    Is it normal for Speedstep to be stuck at 6.0X when running on battery?

    I have a P9700 2.8GHz but it never goes past 1.6GHz when on battery, even at 100% usage.

    I'm running Win7 x64.
     
    maydax, Oct 11, 2009
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  4. Eivind

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    I think the default power saver setting for the CPU are 50% on maximum processor state. Change it, and you should be fine, and the battery empty in a second or two :)
     
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  5. RealMJtm

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    Jep. me too. klick on the batterysymbol. you can chose between different energieplans.

    Balanced
    Energysaver
    High Performance (or else)

    by using the battery on Balanced and Energysaver you multiplier is set on the lowest count 6.0x

    This only changed if its needed by running highperformace prog. like games or 3dmark.....

    You can personalize your setting for every Energyplan, like you want.

    hope that helps a bit.
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 11, 2009
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  6. maydax

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  7. Eivind

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    It runs at 6x when there isn`t any need for full speed. Try orthos or something to see if the multiplier increases.
     
    Eivind, Oct 11, 2009
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  9. RealMJtm

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    Yeah. set the plan to highperformance on Batterymode and you will see your multiplier increases.

    @maydax
    Hey i saw your run the same CPU like me, but thees clock you use are not stable on my system. do you have 512MB or 1024MB and what driver do you have.

    I have 512MB and 191.07
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 11, 2009
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  10. maydax

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    Tried that too, still won't go any higher than 6.0X.


    I have a GTX 280M, 1024MB running 186.81 all stock.
     
    maydax, Oct 11, 2009
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  11. RealMJtm

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    Thx. Sorry my mistake. ment Eivind.

    Ok tried by myself and also hang at 6.0x !

    If you realy need 11.0x at Batterymode you can do it with Programms like RMclock or CrystalCPUIDx64 that works.
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 12, 2009
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  12. Athinu

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    Anyone have this problem:

    Windows7 update asked to download new drivers for turbo memory I installed it and it's only trouble: system hangs, turbo memory isnt recognized etc.
    I was using older drivers and it was np running those on win 7 anyone else have this same problem?
     
    Athinu, Oct 12, 2009
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  13. Blacky

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    I only use the turbo memory driver from intel's website.
     
    Blacky, Oct 12, 2009
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  14. RealMJtm

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    New Driver by Microsoft didn´t mean thats the best for your system.
    have the same problem with my Tv-Tuner and my Fingerprint-Hardware.
    If you wanne have real fun try the GPU-Driver which is Win 7 offering for you system. lol
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 12, 2009
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  15. DRevan

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    Hi!
    I was playing a game when suddenly the screen got really colorfull and I got BSOD and now after a 1-2 min when I start a game (even with new driver) I get the same thing...screen gets colorful and BSOD...think my 9800M GT died ? :mad: (Temp seems ok, but I cleaned out the gpu fan quite long time tho)

    (GPU-z still writes every info correctly)
     
    DRevan, Oct 12, 2009
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  16. Blacky

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    Sounds like a case of bad vRAM. Run a video memory test like OCCTP GPU test for example. See what happens. But yeah, it seems like it's dead -> the worst that can happen :(.
     
    Blacky, Oct 12, 2009
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    OCCTP? Never heard of that...could you please give a link?
     
    DRevan, Oct 12, 2009
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  18. Soviet Sunrise

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5368028&postcount=1145
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Oct 12, 2009
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  20. DRevan

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    got a lot of errors after 3min...I stoped error listing at 10.000 :/ So new GPU ?
     
    DRevan, Oct 12, 2009
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  21. Soviet Sunrise

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    What settings did you use? May you also provide a screenshot? Also, what drivers are you using, and are you overclocked?

    If your GPU memory fails VMT on a stable set of drivers and at factory clocks, then your GPU is dying.
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Oct 12, 2009
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  22. DRevan

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    from the log file:

    Changing video mode to 640x480x16...OK
    [2009.10.13. 0:10:19] Test started for "Primary Display Driver (NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GT)"...
    Trying 16bpp RGB:565 mode...OK
    Trying 16bpp RGB:555 mode...OK
    Error at [1F000000]: must be FFFF, but found 7FFF (bits: 1000000000000000)
    Error at [1F000002]: must be FFFF, but found 7FFF (bits: 1000000000000000)

    ...

    (same error continues)

    oh and DirectX mode.

    Using stock clocks and desktop driver (was ok before). But same thing with latest Nvidia mobile driver.
     
    DRevan, Oct 12, 2009
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  23. Soviet Sunrise

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    I have one more remedy for you: clean out the GPU socket and connector and reseat the card. If you still get errors after that, then your 9800M GT is dying.
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Oct 12, 2009
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    soviet is there any way to fix that gpu? if cleaning the socket and connector doesn't work?
     
    jupapri, Oct 12, 2009
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  25. Soviet Sunrise

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  26. Blacky

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    Yeap, bad vRAM. It drives you mad when this happens.
    As Soviet said, try baking the card.
     
    Blacky, Oct 12, 2009
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  27. RealMJtm

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    yeah, lets bake a 9800m gt, i wonder how it´s taste. :D
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 13, 2009
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  28. DRevan

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    Ok I will try that, thx.


    Another thing. I am also considering buying a GTX 280M, but I can't stop thinking about the reason why the 9800M is dying...
    I've got a few ideas:
    -OC: I runned the 9800M GT on higher voltage for a few months, but on stock clocks, only runed it on higher clocks for a few hours (I set back the voltage months ago)

    -faulty motherboard or AC adapter sent more voltage and killed the memories on the card

    -It is normal after 1 year of intensive gaming for a 65nm card to give up

    -Really bad luck

    Which one do you guys think? I'm worried about this mostly because if I buy a new GTX 280M, I would not like that to die too :/
     
    DRevan, Oct 13, 2009
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  29. DRevan

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    oh and does some1 know a reseller in the EU who still can sell GTX 280M separately? Kobalt can't sell them since they receive it with the chassis and Chili Green is out of stock :(
     
    DRevan, Oct 13, 2009
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  30. RealMJtm

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    I hope, thats my opinion, for myself, only was bad luck! otherwise would it mean that´s could happen to all who are playing Games on Laptops!?? that doesn´t sound good.
    But you´ve get a Point, i had too change my GPU 4 weeks ago after 9 month, did not overclock?? mystery :confused:

    the only way we gonna realy know is a check by nvidia´s hardwarecenter.
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 13, 2009
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  31. RealMJtm

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    same problem! even ebay havn´t one for Europ!
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 13, 2009
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  33. RealMJtm

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    thx. i know, but shipping to Europe + add Taxes is a bit too much.
    my Reseller "mySN" want 450€ , i was hoping around 300 or 350.

    I still have 1 year warranty left so i can wait for it.
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 13, 2009
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  34. DRevan

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    hmm, seems like the GTX 260M is much much cheaper than 280M...think m570TU could handle a GTX 260M? Or 260M is only solld for M860TU?
     
    DRevan, Oct 13, 2009
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    The 260M is sweet too. Lower therms too. Tough choice, but if you want the best of the best... 280M is the way to go I'd think. Hence my hesitation of which of the two.
    I really wish they'd hurry up with the next gen so we can see what's up their sleeves.
     
    sotoa, Oct 13, 2009
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  36. DRevan

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    I think I'm gonna sell my x9100 and go back to P8400 to get some money for the new VGA...hope I can find a buyer for the CPU (retail, not ES), planning to sell it for $300. Or this is too high price for it?
     
    DRevan, Oct 13, 2009
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  37. sip

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    dang it, RJtech raised the price of the GTX280 to 595
     
    sip, Oct 13, 2009
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  38. RealMJtm

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    jep, price changed on monday, saturday was 480$ and look for the 260m gtx :mad:
    the world is on money!!!
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 13, 2009
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    Too late for me buyed a T9800 one week ago, f..k :eek:
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 13, 2009
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    befor you go the 260m gtx way, shoot a message to "eastx" he also try to change his GPU to 280m gtx and is going to sell his old 9800m gtx. make sense helping eachother. lol
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 13, 2009
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  41. Soviet Sunrise

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    I second that.
     
    Soviet Sunrise, Oct 13, 2009
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  42. sip

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    I also have a 9800m gtx for sale, just called sager to replace it with gtx280m since it's now cheaper than RJtech's. sigh
     
    sip, Oct 13, 2009
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  43. eastx

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    Thanks for recommending me, RealMJtm and Soviet Sunrise.

    Guitar23801 may be buying my card. The only hitch is that he's putting it in a Sager9262 as a second card (SLi) so it won't work unless he can find an appropriate heatsink/mounting bracket for it. If he's unable to purchase the needed parts, I'll mention it here.
     
    eastx, Oct 14, 2009
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    Soviet Sunrise, Oct 14, 2009
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    Sweet, Soviet! That looks perfect. Hopefully it comes with everything he'll need. I see that they sell the SLi cable too, yay. :D

    And damn if RJTech didn't just raise the price of the GTX 280M by $100. Argh...
     
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    Sorry sip, didn´t know. was only trying to help DRevan.
     
    RealMJtm, Oct 14, 2009
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  47. sip

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    lol, it's alright. I'm sure there are other interested buyers.
     
    sip, Oct 14, 2009
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    I was hoping they'd DROP the price on the GTX280M, not raise it.
    I guess I'll wait some more.
    Makes the decision easier for an SSD. Er, next month.
     
    sotoa, Oct 14, 2009
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  49. eastx

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    Yeah, raising the price on aging hardware (the GTX 280M) is somewhere between evil and just too evil.

    It sounds like Sager has it for slightly less, if you can actually convince them to sell you one (their customer service is a mess, even without the language issues).
     
    eastx, Oct 14, 2009
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    Probably there was a high demand for the 280M GTX and that's why they've decided to rise the price.

    Companies that make desktop GPUs should start making laptop GPU's as well, I think there is great potential for this market :))
     
    Blacky, Oct 15, 2009
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