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    Clevo P157EM ;)

    Discussion in 'Sager/Clevo Reviews & Owners' Lounges' started by bonnie.clyde, Aug 4, 2012.

  1. GTMonster

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    Well the BIOS looks to have flashed fine, but for some reason the load screen is as far as I can get. It's probably something buggy with Windows!
     
  2. extide

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    I would have suggested to flash both with no reboot in between. Also try using just throttle stop to overclock.
     
  3. M.D.

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    Does anyone know if this will also work for the P151EM1?
     
  4. GTMonster

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    Well I flashed again with no break... I've looked in the services and have noticed that the Intel extreme tuning service is stopped. Can't seem to find out why!
     
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    M.D. Probably will :) try, you can always downgrade flash and ec
     
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    What type of win 7 you have got ?

    We test it on ultimate x64 and service worked.
     
  7. GTMonster

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    Its Ultimate 64 as well. I'm at loss as I really don't want to reinstall! All the other Intel devices are working fine as per the Intel guide...

    XTU software does not open
    If the XTU software does not open after installing it, check the following:

    Reboot the system after installation; rebooting allows the drivers to register correctly and communicate with XTU.
    In Windows Device Manager*, check that the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility Service is running. Try stopping and restarting the service.


    No tuning controls are available
    If no tuning controls display in XTU, check the following:

    Reboot the system after installation; rebooting allows the drivers to register correctly and communicate with XTU.
    In Windows Device Manager, click View > Show Hidden Devices. Then check for the following devices:
    Iocbios2 (under Hidden Devices)
    ACPI BIOS Control Driver (under System Devices)
     
  8. bonnie.clyde

    bonnie.clyde Notebook Consultant

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    Try to remove two RAM modules. :confused:
     
  9. GTMonster

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    I've just read that this is not isolated and has effected a fair few ppl and that the solve that has been found is to install Windows from scratch and install it XTM early on after! I'm thinking I may wait for Windows 8 before reinstalling! I tried Throttlestop and can only get 100% so no over-clock.

    No difference removing RAM...
     
  10. GTMonster

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    Can you describe what you did exactly to make use of the 2nd sata 3.0 port and where you got the parts from? Thanks
     
  11. bonnie.clyde

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    You must remove the four signal pins of SATA port 2 (SATA II) and jumper them on SATA port 0 (SATA III).
     
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    Thanks... Do you by any chance have a pic? I can't find a service manual that shows the MB anywhere. I'm wanting to make the mSATA sata III Thanks.
     
  13. extide

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    Seriously man just use throttle stop to overclock, then you can have profiles too.
     
  14. bonnie.clyde

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    I have no pictures. Simply cut with cutters pins 1,3,7,9 (port 2) and connect their ends (on the other side of the bridge) to the corresponding pins 11,13,17,19 (port 0).
    It is not possible to change port for mSATA.
    [​IMG]
     
  15. GTMonster

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    I've tried... I can't get the clock values to increase above 100%
     
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    Something has gone wrong with your flash... try everything all over again

    Try going back to the original BIOS and then reverse into the P170EM BIOS, if it doesn't work then... yeah nothin' to do mate
     
  17. extide

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    Heh, thats not how you overclock with it :) Press the TRL and TPL buttons. TRL adjusts the multipliers, and TPL adjusts the power limits. I would set the limit #1 to 65-75 and limit #2 75-85. Adjust the multipliers up in TRL, you should be able to jump each one by 4.
     
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    Oh and thanks guys, am pretty happy again now!
     
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    Make sure Speed step, and C1E are ALWAYS enabled. Also make sure Set Multiplier To is set to Turbo.
     
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    RogerCD Notebook Guru

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    You people might want to read this thread: P170em + 3720qm + Xtu = Oc?. It's the only thing preventing me from doing the P157EM.
    I can't understand how is the P170EM cooling system diferent from the P150EM, having intel XTU would be a nice feature, I really want to see those extra 400MHz from my i7-3820QM, I'll watch how this thread evolves until I take my decision :D
     
  22. bonnie.clyde

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    The cooling system in both models (P151EM also) is identical (like PCB). Technically, except the power adapter and power plug, there is no difference between them.
     
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    So what happened with Mythlogic's "fried" systems? Clearly something went wrong. I'm afraid to touch something like this if Mythlogic fried a machine doing so.
     
  24. bonnie.clyde

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    Since even the new users of the forum have managed, and no one found any problems that mean that Mythlogic do not know what he does or does not tell the whole truth.
     
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    Mythlogic is a company that builds and sells Clevo laptops and tests above and beyond what Clevo or Sager typically do. It would be nice to know exactly what happened and how it happened though. And if this is truly working, then it would be nice to see Clevo/Sager whomever come out with a BIOS for the P150EM to add these features.
     
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    I will talk to Myth and see if they can share their tests and results with us... I would like to be able to have XTU too, also the Nvidia turbo boost would be nice...
     
  27. bonnie.clyde

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    Since you say that Mythlogic is perfectly professional reseller, in his and our (users) interest is to provide a simply and secure method for P150EM flash BIOS (without hard flash) with unlocked features of course. ;)
     
  28. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Mythlogic's own supplier as well as Clevo themselves won't give any warranty to machines with such a custom BIOS or a crossflashed machine...so even if an unrelated problem arises it wouldn't be covered any longer...I can fully understand if people make this decision for themselfes (I did it with my own P170HM3 and soldered a socket to the board), but I don't think any reseller would take such a risk for a whole product line. ;)
     
  29. bonnie.clyde

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    You sound like a reseller, rather than the bios modder or simple user. The problem is that Clevo and resellers do not listen what we users/custommers ask. They want to make money without take any risk. Except, that We (users) spend the money and we have to be satisfied.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Ha ha ha.. More like someone who is receiving mail daily from helpless resellers regarding all the stuff they have to face from Clevos BIOS lockdown...believe me one word from the size of Sager or Eurocom and we would get an open BIOS covered by warranty from Clevo tomorrow...many resellers want to bring you all the goodies, but they simply ignore all but the big 3. ;)
     
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    Are you saying a cross flash with no hardware mod would void warranty?
     
  32. extide

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    They probably loaded up CPU + GPU with at least the CPu overclocked and possibly the GPU also. Personally, CPU perf is more important to me, so I am running a CPU OC, but the video card is 100%stock. I may bump up the video card a little bit but it will stay on stock voltage. These Ivy Bridge CPU's are amazing, I am running 42, 42, 40, 40 multipliers for 1, 2, 3, 4 core turbo respectively, I know the CPU would do more but it gets a little bit toasty :) I need to go ahead and re-paste my cpu, heh.
     
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    Why would Clevo care I wonder if it works? As it seems the MB for 150 and 170 are identical.
     
  34. Meaker@Sager

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    Well I killed one 180W brick, so IMO the power brick is just not able to keep up with an OCed CPU + GPU.

    Bring on my Delta 230W brick :D
     
  35. tdididit

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    Congratulations :) Think about change power plug port on MB

    P150EM plug is 20V 7A only (info from part datasheet)
     
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    That can't be right as that only equals 140W :/
     
  37. tdididit

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    Yes it is enough for 180W PSU, but when you're gamer or overclocker you will need something around 300W to be satisfied :D and plug can melt
     
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    I'd not be surprised if any of the issues arising from this BIOS mod are due to the additional thermal heat load which can not be suitably dissapated by the P150EM heatsinks... my CPU is cranking out temps of 101oC clocked and stressed... my GPU is cranking out temps of 89oC clocked and stressed therefore I have no idea how high that will go with full utilisation when/if AMD get their fingers out!

    I'm just in the process of getting a spare undercover and modding it with some mesh to improve cooling by.
    1) Opening up the airvents in the underside of the notebook - I calculate that only about 25-30% of the area of the fans are directly exposed to the vents below.
    2) Adding a few more heatsinks .
    3) Adding a small low current low profile fan as by opening up the vents below the main fans less air will be sucked through the rest of the vents.
    4) Doing the Beefstick mods.

    I'm hoping that as a side effect the noise of the of airflow will also be reduced as well as the load on the fans.
     
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    Get a notebook cooler.. it'll do wonders, trust me, especially when you are playing around with OC's
     
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    Nah, unless you mod the back cover it does not help.
     
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    I would assume one who does such things would take the time off to mod his cover towards better future temps..
     
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    Have you seen my handy work with tools? I never can make it look good lol.
     
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    a notepal u3 + copper heatsinks reduced my CPU temps by 7C and my GPU by 5C. All i did was line the fan blades up so that they covered the GPU and CPU intake vents as well as the vents above the GPU Vram and the CPU itself. I did not mod my case at all. my +400 mhz 3720 runs at 79C in IBT and my 680m has yet to break 77 degrees at 854/2400. as long as you line the fan blades (NOT THE CENTER OF THE FAN) up with the vents on the case it can make a huge difference! I also have Gelid extreme on there which reduced temps by 2C over ICD7.
     
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    Lol
    10char
     
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    Any chance you've got any more info on the override tdididit?
     
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    @moral hazard: need to wait few days more :( company delayed my order for new soldier station.
    Shuld be at my place monday.

    btw. my family lives in Victoria :)
     
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    It doesn't have to look good. Look at this handy work of mine, lol.

    [​IMG]
     
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    looool hahaha good work!
     
  49. HTWingNut

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    I was a little too anxious with the dremel, lol.

    Nobody will ever see it, well I guess I just ruined that with my photo... but I digress. :p
     
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    Who cares if it looks good, it's the performance that matters. Good job
     
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