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    Official Coffee Lake Refresh Thread/BIOS for ALL Clevo Laptops - RTX CARDS NOW SUPPORTED

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DaMafiaGamer, Oct 25, 2018.

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    No. Install windows normally and that's it
     
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    Only if cpu supports it
     
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    Currently running 9700 non-K, would switching to 9900K do the trick?
     
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    Thanks
     
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    Possibly. Most likely someone else can confirm it with that model of laptop. Wait for further feedback
     
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    You might have to flash @dsanke Nvidia BIOS to make G-Sync work, did the trick for me when i went from 4K 60Hz to 1080P 144 Hz monitor
     
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    Anyone with a working dump of this version of 1070 card?
    I tried several vbioses but, with some I have backlit, others nothing. P751DM beeps with the card.
    I would appreciate a working vbios which works on the Dsanke BIOS mod.

    edit: card posts but with artifacts and the laptop beeps. continuing
     
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    Hi Guys,
    I tried to update a 775dm3, with the following:
    - with nvflash I have upgraded the vbios's gop version
    - flash the latest rtx dsanke bios in the laptop - it said it was succesful.
    I did the updates with a 6700k and after I have replace with a 8700k (pin modded), but I have black screen on boot. I have tried fn+d for 30 sec to reset the bios but nothing.
    Could you help what else I can try? I was working with the 6700k + 1080gtx, so the what I can imagine to redo everything with programmer (i do not have).
    thx!
     
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    Flash the bios with a spi programmer. Which file did you use for the 8700k?
     
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    P7xxDMx_RTX.rom - 1.07.27

    It said successful, but black screen. I made a mistake - I dont know if it counts - but I restarted the machine after bios flash with the 6700k. This rtx bios version is not backward compatible with 6/7gen based on the xls.
     
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    You now need a spi programmer to flash the bios. After that you should be fine :)
     
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    OK, I think I have no other choise. However it is strange that it said it was succesful, but what else I can do :)
     
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    The same happened to me with my 8700k that's why I said you need a spi programmer. Did you flash the bios without battery like it says in first post and unplug the AC charger afterwards? That might have worked but you need a spi programmer now and you are good to go. My 8700k and my 1080 are running great so far. No complains :)
     
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    Yes exactly. Battery out, after successful flash I took out the cable to hard shutdown :) still not working. Anyway I will ask my friend to flash it with the programmer! thx for the help I will get back when it is fixed :) It was working, so with flashing it cannot be ruined I guess :)
     
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    @matyee : It might be worth a try with a different memory configuraiton; I've had issues with a replacement P775-DM3G board with DDR-2666 where it looked like a bad BIOS/EC failure (it was behaving similarly to the 'failed' BIOS/EC attempts on the prior P775-DM2G board). Once only two sticks of DDR4-2666 were fitted (one under the keyboard, one under the bottom case, or a DDR-2400 stick was added in combination with 3 sticks of DDR4-2666 (to force the lower speed), the system would come up. Might be worth a try.
     
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    but it was working just fine. have u had this issue right after the mod bios flash? thx
     
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    I had the failure on the old P775-DM2G board, and eventually gave up and stayed with the reflashed (through SPI programmer) original BIOS and 6700K. Eventually, the DM2G board died and the replacement DM3G wouldn't come up with the DDR4-2666 memory. Per the supplier of the replacement board, the support for DDR4-2666 is hit-and-miss and depends on a number of factors. I wish the old board had not died - I'd love to know whether it was simply a memory support issue in the early days. You're going to have to dismantle the machine to get the BIOS re-flashed anyway, so the memory check might be worth a go along the way.

    The replacement board had the last EC/BIOS from Clevo applied by the vendor (since I was very nervous about doing the EC thing myself as that really does make the board into a paperweight if it goes wrong). The EC updates scare me; the BIOS is a simple 8 pin 64 Mbit EEPROM so you can fix it more easily, noting that the chips are (from what I can see) all operationally compatible with each other. You'll need to check; in my P775DM2G it was a Gigadevice chip; in the P775DM3G it is a Macronix part. They turn out to be entirely compatible (check the datasheet - this site was also very useful : http://www.treetoptech.com/index.php/gigadevice-cross-reference-guide)

    Now, the replacement DM3G is running the dsanke BIOS (1.07.something, which restored G-Sync) and three sticks of 2666 with one stick 2400. CPU is a 9700K. It's working fine. The flashing methodology was exactly the same as in the notes.
     
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    Anyone knows how behaves a pascal MXM when it has vRAM errors, does it communicate SMBUS temp or not?
    I see mostly the same case as in desktop, card hangs a wile and after that posts with artifacts but SMBUS temp not reported, tried lots of vBIOS versions but same behavior.
     
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    Hi guys,

    First of all thanks for this awesome mod to improve my old and still beloved Clevo P870DM-G

    I did updated the Bios throught CH341 mini programer (after a big crash trying directly with USB).....for p870dmx-rtx version) and it's 99% Okkkkk! :).

    The 1% is still I cant have sound on the internal speakers...I can have in Bluetooth Stereo ones and even on the PS2 Stereo Out....but no way no matter what on the Laptop Speakers!'

    Actually in Windows I tried a lot of Install/remove/Install again old and new Drivers...but nothing work!

    There is a correct BIOS Sound Configuration?

    Any help there please?!

    Thanks in advance...

    Manuel.
     
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    Nothing to disable the internal speakers I am aware of.
     
  21. matyee

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    Wrong bios I guess. I had the same when I flashed a wrong version to my 775dm3 :) I had no sound no matter what I did. I needed some time to realize the problem, but after good version of bios It worked like charm
     
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    Physically the internal speakers are well connected, there is a message that the sound is out through "SPDIF DIGITAL OUT" and that is can't change even after trying lot of drivers and config.

    I noticed a lot of new option in BIOS in " HD SOUND CONFIGURATIONS "

    I had similar problem with the Wireless and I solved in BIOS but I'm stuck in the no speakers working.

    Btw: my first try to update the BIOS was with the USB option and the laptod crashed (blank screen) after a few sad days of waiting then arrive the CH341 SPID Programer I dismounted and with the Mini Programer tested 3 BIOS option included the Backup Original one...then the P870DMx...later and finally the P870DMx-RTX

    I will Upgrade this:

    1- i7 8700 K (to avoid future temperature issues, but the i7 9900kK still on my radar)
    2- GTX 1080 (will serve for at least a year or more, my goal is working with CAD more than games)
    3- SSD M.2 1Tb for system ( not sure if the system support in just one module)
    4- SSD 1Tb (just for backup files and programs)
    4- DDR4 2666 2x8Gb (not need for more)
    5- Full HD 144hz G-Sync IPS screen

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    My system: Clevo P870DM-G, i7 6700K (for now), 16Gb DDR4 2133 (for now), GTX 980 8Gb (for now), 1Tb SSD , 1Tb 7400 HD.....and the new BIOS for the P870DM-G - RTX version (working fine in anything besides speakers not working)
     
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    I'm think so, but as I said there too many options in BIOS about HD Sound and was just one of this to modify.

    Sound Okkk in Bluetooh Stereo, or in the 3.5mm Stereo Audio jack.

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    My system: Clevo P870DM-G, i7 6700K (for now), 16Gb DDR4 2133 (for now), GTX 980 8Gb (for now), 1Tb SSD , 1Tb 7400 HD.....and the new BIOS for the P870DM-G - RTX version (working fine in anything besides speakers not working)
     
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    update:
    Did another GPU pull, reball and solder, same result.
    Could be the new memory I soldered is badly soldered, will try to pull it and try again.

    Time now to use nvidia mods tool to check memory, but because the P751DM EC thermal management does not work with the card, it switches off right after a minute, so I can't try this thing.
     
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    Double check none of the passives have shifted as well.
     
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    Visually the pasives match with same black PCB 1070, but double checking would be about some measurements, not sure if some passive resistor has a different nominal for the GPU to understand some config value as in older cards. From what I seen, there are 6 config resistors in desktop cards, could be same thing in MXM, and maybe this config tells the GPU about memconfig, so that new soldered memory is ignored.

    nVidia MODS launches, reports fail but it's not enough time to check which memory bank fails because clevo shuts down.

    edit: managed to make the HP motherboard to work, got the dev ID now 10de 1ba1 0000 0000
    and, can't make the HP motherboard to post to vga port always, it tries to give control to MXM with its displayports which do not work ofcourse.

    latest edit: found actually missing SMDs regarding the last 2 vRAM chips. will try to identify and solder them

    edit again: soldered missing SMDs, and the missing mosfet is placed with a similar one but not identical, card behaves the same
     
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  27. IllusiveMan

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    Anyone knows to which vram this belongs in pascal MXM? Is it so that A [31:0] belong to M1 and A[63:32] to M2 and so on?

    SUBPART RANK0 RD ERR RANK0 WR ERR UNKNOWN ERR
    ------------- ------------- ------------- ------------
    FBIOA[ 31: 0] 0 0 0
    FBIOA[ 63: 32] 0 1318762 0
    FBIOB[ 31: 0] 0 0 0
    FBIOB[ 63: 32] 0 0 0
    FBIOC[ 31: 0] 0 8152 0
    FBIOC[ 63: 32] 0 0 0
    FBIOD[ 31: 0] 0 0 0
    FBIOD[ 63: 32] 0 8152 0

    edit: found the issue, a K4G80325FB HC25 memory chip needed, anyone selling?
     
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    You could look for salvage cards on the members market or ebay. Worth seeing if any desktop card uses the same chip too.
     
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    Sure, looking into finding some desktop cards with at least alive memory chips, but seems that samsung is very rare, all which I found are with hynix or micron.
     
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    Might need to enquire to a place like ali Express if nothing comes up.
     
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    Got the bios working great on my P751dm. However, it has a bit of an issue though.

    Any time I connect the touchpad it makes the laptop not boot. It just stays on a black screen with the EC being responsive as fans ramp up and down. Soon as I unplug it it works great again.

    Edit: It randomly stopped doing that but, now my touchpad isnt working. Looks like it doesnt show in device manager
     
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    Check the cable and pads on the cable.
     
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    I did that and it didnt look too bad the cable. However I replaced it with a nearly identical cable with the same pin count from an e5440 laptop just in case and I am not seeing a difference. The touchpad worked prior to the flash. I am able to recreate the issue with stock firmware and a 6700 CPU.

    Just hoping somehow the touchpad didn't die via the flashing (does ME have firmware for the touchpad? Possibly some weird version conflict?) I can only find one place with a touchpad and they want 100$ and I'm not even sure if it'll fix the issue atm. Ugh
     
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    The bios/ecu will be involved with them.
     
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    Just updated the EC via UEFI (since CSM doesnt work for some reason with this bios?) The EC update for EC1&2 went fine however it only incremented them up one version and didnt fix the touchpad. Any other ideas possibly? I will say this thing was bought 2nd hand off reddit like a week or so ago and it is a chinese variant apparently from shinelon and my seller from hardwareswap said it had a modified bios to support kabylake originally except I don't believe it was the kaby lake bios on this forum. Trying to get the original from him to test again. I am at the point where I am ready to shell out 100$ for a touchpad if need be but I really would rather not if possible. Just not sure how the touchpad would have died from a bios flash.

    Edit: On that note, if anyone knows where I can get just the touchpad and the cables just in case the pins are wonky even on my replacement cable for cheap I will be in your debt. I paid 250 for this barebones. Really not looking to spend roughly half the cost on a touchpad if possible. Especially since I shelled out for an 8700k and a 980m already :(
     
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    Local resellers should be able to quote for the upper assembly and touch pad.
     
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    I managed to obtain the original bios on this laptop. Anyone able to tell me what's up/different with this bios if I upload it?

    Edit: I said **** it and swapped cpu and am flashing it now. Heres to hoping its something funky with the bios

    Edit2: So yeah.... bios definitely isn't the culprit and I found a 3rd cable and it isn't it. So it's either the touchpad or the motherboard. ****ing yay
     
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    Have you inspected the areas around the connectors and the pad?
     
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    I have and nothing looks blown, the connectors on the cables look fine. The only thing I can think of if it isn't the touchpad at this point is that I must have shorted something it needs from when I was trying to find the bios chip to do my first reflash due to the first bricking the laptop somehow. I searched the strings off the 8 pin ics I could find and it wasn't making sense at first so I started clipping onto any 8 pin ic and seeing if my ready light lit on it.

    It makes no sense to me honestly why it's like this. I work on laptops and other systems as my day to day job so I'm pretty delecate and nothing looks damaged. The cable pins also look aligned in their connectors
     
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    Try checking the activity on SMBUS pins on the TP connector, could be that one or both pins are no longer connected to the PCH chip. If you have at least audio then it's a easy fix.
     
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    I do have audio.

    Also, I figured out the thing can actually see that something is detected. For some reason it decides to hide in device manager the touchpad. Had to unhide it apparently.

    It's throwing a code 24 and using the generic driver or any variant of the synaptics one didn't work.

    I am curious about measuring the smbus activity and that potential fix you mentioned
     
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    If you can see it in Dev manager then there is activity. Bad signals will result that is not detected at all. Error 24 is unknown to me.

    Definitely a better way is to just test another touchpad just to figure out which one is having a problem, or yours on another machine.
     
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    Yeah that is what sucks. I can't seem to source a touchpad, at least not at a reasonable price and I've tried resellers locally. Basically I am looking at 100$+ with no return policy just for a touchpad.

    Code 24 is the error that states the device isn't present or has wrong drivers loaded. A bit of an older error.

    I do see that the touchpad apparently sits on the ps/2 bus? At least that is the generic driver it is trying to load
     
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    Hey i got an CLEVO N95TP6 and i try to get this GOP version,but he dont recognize my videocard and what UEFI version he got,i got only unknow??
     

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    Run command line as administrator...

    Enviado do meu ASUS_I001DC através do Tapatalk
     
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    I did that,and this is what i got.
     
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    In that screenshot above you aren't running command line as administrator
     
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    Is is the same error 24 when touchpad is completely disconnected? What about fingerprint scanner, does this one work?
     
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    Yes you right,but i cannot open this as administrator,i try to install the windows again,creat another administrator account but wont open that as administrator,this is very strange!!!!
     
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    Maybe your account doesn't have admin rights but user only. Create a new local one with administrator rights and try
     
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