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    Official Coffee Lake Refresh Thread/BIOS for ALL Clevo Laptops - RTX CARDS NOW SUPPORTED

    Discussion in 'Sager and Clevo' started by DaMafiaGamer, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. Tryner

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    Yes you get a unlocked bios but with bug……
     
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    You welcome !!! :)
     
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    Anyone with this particular card in a Clevo laptop? I am into soldering process from a 1060 die to a 1070 one, memory already soldered but can't seem to find a proper vBIOS for it.
    Can anyone help me finding the proper vBIOS?
    I want to install it into a P751DM with latest BIOS from this thread.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Don't forget the missing power phases.
     
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    This one is not my card, but it seems to be identical to the 1060 except missing vRAMs and the die, not sure why 1070 does not have all mosfets soldered.
    Anyway, missing mosfets are on the way, should arrive and will be soldered.
     
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    Speaking of power phases do the motherboards of the 775TM and the 870TM have the same number of power phases?

    I think I read somewhere that the P870TM has 4+1 power phases but I haven't read anything about the P775TM.
     
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    If you mean CPU power phases then these are the same in these models. Not completely sure if it's 2x1+1+1 = phases (4 physical coils with their mosfets, one phase doubled).
     
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    I was under the impression that power delivery for the CPU was more or less comparable but I was wondering about power phases avialable for everything else. If I remember correctly the P870TM has one instead of two Thunderbolt 3 ports, one more m2 NVME slot and one additional USB 3 type A connector so I would think that overall it is more capable than the motherboard of the P775TM. I am aware that this isn't important for most people and portability obviously suffers when going from the P775 to the P870 but the more periphery somebody connects the more important this may get.
     
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    Each are the same with 4 phases with doubled high/low sides on a single inductor per phase.
     
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    Thanks, that is interesting - would have thought that Clevo may have beefed up the P870 compared to the P775 given the fact that it used to be available in SLI configurations and with added connectivity.
     
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    That makes no difference to the CPU.
     
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    Indeed, CPU power phases would have no effect on this or to put it more positively the P775TM should do quite well in the CPU department unless the GPU is also running at or near its maximum capcity.
     
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    Just to give ya an example since i own a P775DM3-G with a 8700k and a 1080. Even pushing a little more for the GPU with some little overclock and GPU at stock voltages.. it never passed 90ºC :)

    Yesterday i was testing some settings and got near 20k (less than 200 points to hit it) in FireStrike:

    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21452716

    i believe with the P775TM1 coper cooler i believe i'd get even lower temperatures..

    Please take in consideration that i was running at stock voltages.. In a daily basis i run the system with CPU Core and CPU Cache -0.139mV which runs even cooler! So i doubt anyone has any issues!
     
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    Sounds good, how is fan noise with undervolting and what clock rate do you achieve?
     
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    Doesn't bother but it is a bit loud! Normal in this kind of chassis since i spare no efforts in performance :)
     
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    Yep, that's the price we have to pay for maximum performance. The only time that I could really not stand the noise level from my GT75 with the GTX 1080 was when I really maxed out the graphics - once the fans kicked into high gear it was unbearable without headphones :)
     
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    Yeah it is but undervolting the gpu and cpu is a must for daily usage :) and I use control station software with fan control from Obsidian pc which helps a lot when modding the fan tables
     
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    Yep, I will always go for undervolting in everyday use if possible, got to be very careful now to avoid Intel or Microsoft sneaking a plundervolt fix by me...

    The Obsidian Software is fantastic and the easiest way to make the Clevo fans behave, I also use it to undervolt my P870 so overall a great job by Obsidian!
     
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    There is a PWM2 and PWM2A, so I agree that there are 4 phases.
     
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    The 1070 die is a little chipped, not sure if it even worked before. Thinking if it's worth soldering it or no.
    upload_2020-1-7_9-30-44.png

    But still, anyone with the right vBIOS for this card?
     
  23. mirt81

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    You Solder 1060 Die to 1070 PCB right ?

    Look my Card there some Hard Scratches but is Good .

    Great to see a P751DM User maybe we can share Experiences :)

    MayBe you have to Check if G-Sync or No-Gsync PCB .

    Good Success !
     

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    Nice to see someone more!

    Actually I cannot know if my chip is G-Sync or not since I cannot see it's dev ID, I am not sure which vbios to flash in it. Planning to power up it maybe with blank vBIOS in this HP motherboard so that I can see the dev ID if it will pass to windows just like the desktop cards do.

    Your PCB is the green one, and it has some different SMD placings, and one MOSFET present, in the black version that MOSFET is replaced by a 0ohm resistor. Not sure vBIOS is compatible between these 2, desktop cards on the other hand, work fine with cross flashing (assuming TDP to be similar and the power setup).
    Your card still works with such big chips on the corners?

    Yes, soldering the 1070 die on the 1060 card, basically everything is now ready for the chip swap. And yes, the heatsink will be also modded to fit with this card type.
    upload_2020-1-9_8-41-55.png
     
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    Small chips to the top are usually ok, the main issue is if it causes a fracture into the active layer at the bottom of the chip.
     
  26. IllusiveMan

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    Yes.

    My 1060 has a really bad one in the lower right corner, as result, chip is dead, no activity on the vBIOS chip. Power management though works fine, sequence 0.8 -> 0.69V vCore, 1.5 -> 1.35V on memory.

    I hope the 1070 die is 'alive'.
     
  27. mirt81

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    If i right if G-Sync or not is not the DIE thats counts even the PCB .

    Because vbios there are often MSI ones they are good . . . 86.04.31.00.0C is a no G-Sync vBi0s im using on my card .

    Your PCB maybe from a Zotac ZBoox 1060N .


    You are using Ds@nke bi0s to use a CoffeeLake CPU or to have unlocked bi0s for a Skylake CPU ?


    To stay me clear im self not that Hardware Modder like you . . . a Project you are doing are some Numbers above my knowledge but hope can bring content thats help You :)
     
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    Hello just got the n95xkp6 but there are 2 bioses. 1is n95xkp6 and other 1 is +125mv. With 9400 which 1 I should flash
     
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    Yes, it seems to be the Zotac card, and there are both 1060 and 1070 on the techpowerup. Planning to try maybe this one:
    https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/212278/212278

    I'm on the Ds@nke BIOS, which worked fine with a 8086k and the 780m card, except that vBIOS was not very compatible.

    What to do if these laptops are not quite finished, and some parts cost still a fortune (vga MXM).
     
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    +125mv sounds like a built in over volt which seems a bit excessive to start with?
     
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    What i know by moding my P751DM 1070mxm they Original is for Clevo are . . . my card was formally in a other Clevo Model (dont know which) with an vBios for Clevo but in my Clevo P751DM that Clevo vBios wont work and i had to use the MSI 86.04.31.00.0C .
    Flashed MSI vBios on my 1070mxm with SPI-Programmer - after that Dumped vBios from my 1070mxm with SPI-Programmer and Reflashed own Dumped vBios to Card and than they GPU was Useable . All that maybe because different Checksums of vBios files to Download @ Web and my own Romchip .

    My reading @ Web has shown me that even Users with Zotac GPU´s have some times to use the MSI vBios for there Clevo Models to bring it 0n .

    By Using Ds@nke bi0s and 8086K you had no problem when Shutdown P751DM and it Autonom Restart with AC plugged in ?

    Have you ever Updated the Thunderbolt Firmware . . . i ask because it seems it have different P751DM with different Hardware Vendor Components and maybe thats the reason for me that i cant run a 8700ES or update Thunderbolt to V16 or above :-(
     
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    Please help me i flash vbios gtx1060 n95tp6 card not working
     
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    You have solved your Isue . . . * * *

    When not try a blind flash from a USB Stick .
     
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    So you reflashed your own saved dump and it worked?

    I think this was so in my unit as well, this happened when it booted on battery and afterwards when plugging power and trying to shut down it did a restart.

    No, no any other updates except BIOS. Might be so, and these firmwares are nowhere to find.
     
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    Yes thats i had to do !
     
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    USB-C issue

    i9-9900K is running nicely (after the chop in of the P870TM1 CPU cooler and replacement bracket and delid and die sanding, Using the modded Bios that is RTX compatible. As the TJMAX is wrong in the 1080 version (or was at the time of flashing)

    SO...Anyone having an issue with the USB-C ports?
    Mine will not detect the USB 3.1 Host controller unless I boot with a device plugged in.
    Then if i remove it the host controller disappears next boot.

    Here is what i see when booting with my ASUS ROG PHONE II (any other USB-C 3.1 device) plugged in on boot up
    [​IMG]
    shows up. can transfer files to and from the phone. business as usual...


    When i unplug it I hear 2 device unplugged sounds... then plug it back in and...
    [​IMG]
    F***'n Gone :( Only charges.

    Tried uninstalling all hubs and host controllers and rebooting. seemed to work this morning. Now back to acting the same.

    Any ideas guys?
     
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    @KKthebeast which method u used to fit TM's CPU heatsync? The one with totally new TM's bracket or the one with cutting KM's one?
     
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    New bracket. (From Clevo Computer in Germany. I had to reach out to him to get pre-auth to ship to the states, but he seems to have a pile of hard to find things. Good guy, even tossed in some sweets lol)

    Just used the girlfriends hair dryer to warm it up, wiggled a plastic tool from a cell phone screen replacement kit in there and put a plastic pen under it perpendicular (to act as a fulcrum) came right off.

    Truly, I was really nervous about pulling the mobo, Just took some pictures and made sure everything was plugged back in. It was really easy, just time consuming (all though there was the one part where i was SMH all the screws where out and the little F***er didn't want to come out). Took about a 12 pack to get it done. the first half was for courage :p
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    SO...Anyone having an issue with the USB-C ports?
    Mine will not detect the USB 3.1 Host controller unless I boot with a device plugged in.
    Then if i remove it the host controller disappears next boot.

    When i unplug it I hear 2 device unplugged sounds... then plug it back in and...

    F***'n Gone :( Only charges.

    Any ideas guys?[/QUOTE]

    Dont know which Win10 Version are in use but @ 19o3 and above USB 3.1 Thunderbolt problem are marked by MicroSoft .

    By P751DM is Thunderbolt not Showing in Device Manager but USB 3.1. . . both are inclusive :-(
     
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    Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.1)

    Any news or work-around other then rebooting with the device plugged in to make it work for a while?
     
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    turn in bios the thunderbolt to legacy normaly is works !
     
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    Possibly/probably dumb question with regard to ' Make sure you DO NOT UPDATE your Intel management engine firmware at all, this will block cannon lake CPU recognition, the BIOS flash will update the ME firmware accordingly!'

    In Obsidian PC's updater application, it offers an Intel ME update (installed is 1815.12.0.2021; latest is 1931.14.0.1323). Is this an update that should be ignored at all costs to avoid the 9700K being made unusable?
     
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    True. Every machine with bios mod is stucked at old Intel ME. I was even told that update could cause a brick.

    So ye, be aware :)
     
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    Intel ME is a piece of software driver from Obsidian pc. It doesn't flash ME. I did update mine with obsidian pc update tool and didn't brick it
     
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    We are talking about firmware. Like the one before bios flash.
     
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    The tool from Obsidian pc doesn't flash the ME. Only installs the drivers (that's what I'm saying).
    Beware of Intel ME firmware update tools though
     
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    If you flash with that tool you will brick your machine with 100% of certainty. I did try and had to use a spi programmer to reprogram my BIOS with a backup that I did.

    Hope this answer your question
     
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    Hi guys,

    I have one question concerning Windows 10 reinstall:
    If I reinstall Windows from scratch on a CoffeeLake modded P870KM1G, do I have to care about something that could afflict the CoffeeLake compatibility? Or ist everything just BIOS and Firmware related?
    Thanks for your help!
     
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    Isn't G-Sync supposed to work with the AUO329D on P870DM-G using any of the Coffee Lake BIOSes?
     
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