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    Razer Blade 15 RTX update

    Discussion in 'Razer' started by Joikansai, Jan 7, 2019.

  1. Xenrail

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    40 pages is a lot to go through, so was hoping someone could help me with this. Does anyone know if they fixed the plastic anchors in this update (the copper heatsink would melt the anchors in the 10 series)?
     
  2. Joikansai

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    It won’t melt the anchor, if it’s so there will be huge problem for them. Mostly I saw user who tightened it too tight and broke it when they try to access cpu and gpu for repasting. My 2018 model still not melted yet over 10 months gaming usage, and I play demanding titles like Tomb Raider, Assassins Creed, Far cry, Division etc with Turbo Boost set max 3,9 (4,1 default) and on long session often hitting 90 ish on some core, you can imagine how hot the vapor chamber.
     
  3. HAMSTERS

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    They reinforced the plastic anchor with a little more thickness and width around the screw hole.
     
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    Has anyone tried Cinebench r15 out of the box? I am getting really low scores (750 on default and 900 on gaming). I wanted to get a baseline before I undervolt but my results are even lower than the low scores on notebookcheck review!

    Also I get the same gpu scores on default and gaming modes. I thought gaming mode also overclocked the gpu?

    I have the rtx 2070 version
     
  5. JRey

    JRey Notebook Evangelist

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    Here you go.
    https://www.theeverydayenthusiast.com/home/review-2019-razer-blade-advanced-w-rtx-2080-max-q

    It shows all my scores out of the box, then with undervolt.
     
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    Yes, in gaming mode.


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    Ah perfect so mine seems normal then
     
  9. JRey

    JRey Notebook Evangelist

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    Yea. Getting 1230+ consistently is only possible if you can adjust the bios. While you may not be thermal throttling, you will be current/power throttling.


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    Thanks, I might look at the bios once I have had a good play with the laptop.

    Ps great review by the way
     
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  11. Joikansai

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    You should definitely undervolting the Blade, they overvolt it plus limiting tdp per power limit on ec firmware. With undervolting even there’s power limit you should get around 1150 range
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    want more you should moding the Bios as @JRey mentioned and unlock cpu VR setting etc but I prefer thermal on default bios on my 2018 model. Here’s the tutorial if you want to look or try :).
    About OC I think gaming mode on rtx model doesn’t apply OC on gpu, you can check it by choosing gaming mode and open afterburner, if it’s on default overclocked, it’ll show like this.
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    If not you should doing it manually.
     
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    How will i know if i have coil whine? I got the 2070 version from the Microsoft store. It seems perfect. Havent gamed too hard but ran 3d mark demos for a few hours and ran Star Citizen and Starcraft in gaming mode which seemed to push he heat to the max.

    If i didnt hear any coil whine in 10 hours of testing and gaming does that mean i am in the clear?
     
  13. Joikansai

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    Than it’s great, if you didn’t notice that, try to put on gaming mode and put your ear near the keyboard if you want to check it on idle, on max load set the Fans to max rpm on Synapse. If you hit high cpu temperature set it to balance, to lower the tdp and get better temperature, for those games I think it’s still butter smooth even on balanced mode.
     
  14. knibbler

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    Pu
    Pubg at 1440p external monitor i usually average 1380mhz with a 125mhz clock increase.

    Using the 1080p laptop screen i can average much higher.

    *** If you jack up the Vram speeds as most people seem to do, the overal GPU power will be too High and you will be throttling at 90watt sooner.
    Hence average clocks in the 12xxmhz range
     
  15. JRey

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    We’re talking about Cinebench R15 scores, not GPU clock.


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    Mu
    Ouch. Thats what i get for reading posts while im on the toilet. Sorry
     
  17. quickie

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    So I just received my 2070 blade, has very minor light bleed on a spot on the bottom, not noticeable unless it’s a dark room on a black screen and I’m looking for it. I played ff xv for a about 5 minutes and I heard some coil whine it died down towards the end though. Hopefully it goes away. I undervolted it 125 and dropped the boost to 3.2 and on high settings I got a solid 60fps and the cpu temps were low 70s.
     
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    Amateur comparison RTX Blade 15 vs GS65 2019, it’s more build and size comparison for helping buying decisions since it’s different rtx card model.
     
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    Hi Everyone,

    I have a 2080 Blade and having some trouble with a RAM upgrade.

    Thought to ask this community. I have upgraded RAM to a G-Skill Ripsaw with 3200mhz. Whenever I start a game with the RAM set at 3200mhz the game freezes. This is any game. When I reduce to stock clocks or 2400mhz for these sticks every game plays fine.

    Razer Support said this is a known issue with RTX 2070 and 2080 Blades with no resolution in sight. I updated to the latest bios, EC and Intel but still freezing when XMP is enabled.

    Any help is appreciated.

    Update: Razer Support is stating this is a known issue with no resolution date available.
     
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  20. HAMSTERS

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    Do you guys have problem when updating to BIOS 1.04? My situation is that the updater stuck at 99%, and system do not reboot. I wait 30 min but no work. I have to do forced reboot.
    The update is suppose to fix coil whine issue.
     
  21. struselix

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    A lot of users in the Razer Insider forum have this issue as well. Still no fix for this.
    Some say it might be dependend from the order of installation of the ME update and the BIOS.
    I am waiting until the "official" fix is published.
    https://insider.razer.com/index.php...-blade-15-ft-nvidia-geforce-rtx.45823/page-20
     
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    I see. There were no instructions telling me that I have to update BIOS and EC before updating ME at the first place, so I proceed the ME update before updating EC and BIOS. Now, they have a instruction that tells users to update BIOS and EC first. Razer did not organize the process well before they post any updates.
     
  23. Joikansai

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    Yeah bios update is something that should be waiting if you don’t have any issues with current bios. They’re working on it btw, i don’t have any stucking issue on any Bios update before, most probably it has something to do with intel em update since it’s vulnerability related and maybe it somehow disturbing the update.
     

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    I`ll wait untill an answer from Razer appears saying what to do when EC and ME have already been updated.
     
  25. rinneh

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    Ordered the new Razer Blade 15, lets see if Razer has their stuff in order now with the new revision.
     
  26. Joikansai

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    There’s update coming, see other thread.
    Edit: seems PC world too early uploading it ;)
     
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    Saw it popping up past afternoon, but those are with the expensive Oled panels etc.

    Got a good deal on Amazon UK. The price for the 2070MQ was lower than the 2060 actually.....I take that any day.

    Alienware unfortunately doesnt offer mid sized laptops anymore and the M15 isnt what I wanted. So taking the plunge for a Blade. Currently got a Triton 500 but I will return it. The thermals arent ideal because a bad paste job and the motherboard is reversed.
     
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    Think you will be happy mate, I tried a m15 and Area 51m before settling with this one. I was worried about Razer cs which was the main reason I bought from amazon but the extremely good price on the 2070 was the icing on the cake.
     
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    Thanks for your insights! I hope so. I liked the previous 15 inch versions. But the M15 just doesnt offer a lot of benefits for the size increase currently and the 51M is just way too much of a tank for my uses.
     
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    Hi there, do you think that 2060 version has less chances for coil whine than the 2070 or 2080?
     
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    Don't know if anyone saw, but Razer just updated their site with the new units.
     
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    Well, my Blade was delivered this morning. I got a little case of buyer's remorse after ordering last Thursday, and I figured I would find some excuse to return it. Not a chance. This is, without a doubt, the best gaming laptop I have ever owned, and I've gone through quite a few. The 2070MQ 144hz 512 was on sale for $2,399, and I got a 5% student discount and extended 3 year Razer care, total was $2,682 after tax.

    After a few hours, I can't find a single flaw. No screen bleed, perfect panel, co coil whine, 15,551 firestrike stock with max temps of 79 CPU and 71 GPU. I am super pumped about spending at least 3 years with this baby. Well done, Razer, far exceeded expectations on day 1, I hope I remain this impressed in the days to come!
     
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    Just wait till you give it a slight undervolt. ;)

    I just got a Firestrike score of 16,135 in gaming mode with -130 uv. Max CPU temp 83C.

    Incredible
     
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    I'm in the same boat as you. I'm so happy with my 2070MQ 144hz. I only went 256gb SSD as I ordered a Samsung 2TB 970 Evo Plus. I was thinking about returning mine as well since it's been a bit over a week but decided the slightly improved CPU wouldn't make a huge difference in this chassis and I don't think I'd ever hit above 144hz refresh on the go - and when I'm at home I play on a 144hz super ultrawide 49" monitor anyway.
     
  35. Paul16

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    Hi.
    Can owner of mercury white laptop send some photos here,please? I like silver color of laptops but on all commercial photos of Razer it looks... ah... not great
    Thank you
     
  36. Joikansai

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    Is there any update for the BIOS issue?
     
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    Hold your ponies, according my mate they’re on testing phase. Bios update is pretty sensitive and may bring other new issues if published too rush. No ETA yet but close I think.
     
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    Still loving this system, got a 16,021 Firestrike score after UV in gaming mode, that's probably the best I'll do. Happy with all game performance, thermals, noise, build quality, etc.

    My only criticism - and maybe someone can help me with this - is the Synapse software. As far as i can tell, there is no way to store my lighting profile offline. Whenever I try to use the machine without an internet connection, it switches to the default lighting profile. Is there a way to store my setup locally?
     
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    Does anyone here play World of Warcraft and if so can they check to see if there is any audible coil whine during gameplay?
     
  41. rinneh

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    Just tested my blade 15 2070MQ. Performance is good, temps are good too but the chassis itself does get very hot, I worry about the battery longevity because of this.

    Also the more I read, the more I see issues popping up about the Blade 15. Not sure if I want to keep it. Got quite a bad backlight bleed spot on the right side as well. For 2500euro that kinda sucks....

    Bit of an annoying thing, that the case itself looks and feels great but user comments on forums dont give me confidence that this laptop can last about 3 years.

    When installin gmy own SSD's I noticed that the screws are super tight as well, felt off.
     
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    I will, thx!
     
  43. Joikansai

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    With that feeling I would return it back I think now for more €100 (german and France Store price) you can get 9th gen new cpu, 240Hz (apparently world first) ips Panel.
    I noticed first time like a month or less upper keyboard area was hot, couldn’t put my hand on it for like a minutes or so, but after that till now I could put without feeling hot, warm yes. I think because new hardware or maybe some software optimization that made the machine run hotter, or maybe because it take heat better than 2018 model. My cpu max gaming temperature 91 degrees averaging mid 80 or lower depends the title with no Turbo boost limitation.
    Yeah BLB i habe as well but minimum, didn’t disturbing playing Exodus, Vampyr etc that has a lot dark scenes.
    Yeah I saw also users reporting tight screws on rtx model. My ssd swapping time record still under 5 minutes, 11 screws isn’t too tight and also not loose.
    Yes I always wanted to test my laptops longevity, but damn every year comes cool things that are quite tempting, max my Blade usage was 2 years but it was fine when I sold it.
     
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  44. rinneh

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    I could resolve the backlight bleed, I warmed up the bezel/adhesive underneath where rhe backlight bleed was present and slightly lifted the bezel on that spot and carefully pressed it back in place. Seems to have fixed it.

    The temps are around 75c on GPU and 85c on CPU which is pretty good for such a thin machine. But the whole chassis acts like a heatsink.
     
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    I heard that on the chassis heatsink. Palm rests are a little toasty, but that's literally the only problem I have found so far (other than the earlier posted synapse local saving, which I still haven't solved). Still trying to decide if the hot chassis is a deal breaker. I never have my laptop on a desk, it's on a lapdesk 100% of the time I'm using it, so it might be a problem is the Alabama summer comes along.
     
  46. Joikansai

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    I see i think I heard song saying something with hot Alabama ;), yes ambient temperature play also big role. Last summer here in Germany I think wasn’t too hot didn’t notice above 40, probably mid 30ish Celsius. Last week was a bit warm around 23 degrees in non AC room (we mostly use only central heater, summer for most poeple like me only use ventilator), I didn’t feel uncomfortable playing far cry new dawn 2 hours or more, last summer I noticed a bit sweat using the keyboard. Probably rtx Blade Transfer better the heat to cassis since my cpu temperature for fat cry is high 80 and mid 80 on Division 2. Maybe I need to repasting it since it’s already 10 months gaming usage.
    What do you want to do with save location? On my 2018 model there’re two location Synapse 3 folder, on programs file and users/appdata/local, both on Razer folder.
     
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    I want to be able to save my lighting program locally so it will still activate if I am offline and cannot connect to Synapse.
     
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    I've had my first Razer laptop (Blade 15 w/ 2060) for about two weeks now.

    I've been using it mostly for web development, but also like to use it for gaming.

    Is there any simple way to have it change between 144hz and 60hz refresh when I go from games to productivity?

    Whenever I game I am plugged in, but when I am working I need to be able to move around, and would like to maximize battery life.

    Is there a go-to guide for setting this thing up right? I feel like it should have done this by default from the manufacturer, but I'm not opposed to tweaking things.
     
  49. Wonkyfinger

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    Open Synapse, I think you got to system > performance. Should be a box where you can switch between 60 and 144.
     
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    Sure can easily. In the Synapse app go to the performance tab. On the lower right side below the fan speeds you can select 144hz or 60hz.
     
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