***The Official MSI GT 70 w/GTX-680M Owner?s Lounge***

NICE! Welcome To The Party Abula!

Thanks Ken! As always, this is a big help.

That's better, but something is still not looking right..... not even close to the 680M's OC potential. I guess as we discussed earlier, we'll have to wait on MSI to release new MB/EC firmware.



FYI:

New version of GPU-Z, v0.6.4., 10 Aug 2012:

•Changed sort order of devices to put devices with connected monitor first
•Fixed memory size reading for NVIDIA cards with 4 GB or more
•Fixed AMD Trinity Fusion clock readings
•Added support for NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti, GTX 660, GTX 650, GT 610, GTX 680M
•Added support for AMD FirePro 2270
•Fixed ROP and TMU count for Intel GMA 3600
•Changed sensor label from "VReg Temperature" to "VRM Temperature"
•Fix for sensors displaying Fahrenheit not being saved properly
•Added VRM temperature monitoring for CHL8228 based cards
•Fix for various crashes

 

What does the vbios do? haha. I want to OC only to reach 7k tops in 3dmark11, I don't want super high clocks, I just want a small nice boost to use in gaming. So far I am at 810/2060 or so.

 

yes was tested with stock 276US and stock driver and turbo disabled.

the stock BIOS without OC score is around 20K is it's about 10% gain. GPU max at 84C.

No problem.

I only did one test yesterday, I'll do some more test today.

 

Ken,

Any news on the Touch Pad issue you were going to look into for me?

Thanks, Scott

 

Scott, I am working on it.

Update: confirmed the 1762 barebone touchpad does not have scroll feature.

 

Welp.. I am a new MSi GT70 680m owner. Order is being built and hopefully out soon. I changed from an Alienwarwe 17x because of its shipping delay. After researching it and now the free backpack, mouse and headset deal I was sold on MSi.

I was apprehensive about the whole super raid deal thing.. would have just preferred a 256g Samsung 830... but I think I will be fine. I just hope I can hook up my old Soundworks Gigaworks speakers up to the laptop somehow.

Wife also got the GT70 w/ the 675m card... both of our comps died in the past 6 months and we finally decided to order replacements.

 

on the GT70 is the MSI logo on the back change colors or is it white only?

 

It's only white but you can still modify the color.

 

What a huge difference.

Tested with Barebone unit and your vBIOS, No overlclock but I did update the driver to 306.23 also I will test it with OC later:

 

Ok then I believe you're right, there's something up with the msi oems...that's strange - any software like nvdia overclock tool could be causing trouble? They do share the same mobal and bios+ec so it doesn't make sense..

 

Hey guys, first time poster, long time reader here. I own a GT70 ONC-004US.

I'm trying to re-install Windows using F3 during booting, but it doesn't work. I think it has something to do with the fact that I changed the name of my D: drive. My C: is still named "OS_Install", but my D: is named "Data" now. Can anyone tell me what was the original name of my D: please? And I surely hope it fixes my F3 recovery function...



Thanks guys!

Cedric

 

That is a total bummer, the laptop is almost perfect other wise. The very basic touch pad is almost useless, Shame on MSI for cheeping out on a small detail like this.

 

You get what you pay for. Its not MSI that is cheaping out. There is a reason barebones cost less than branded models. Touchpad scrolling is not the only thing 1762 lacks

 

From a hardware standpoint the only other item it is missing is the multi-color keyboard, which I tried to upgrade but, it does not recognize the keyboard. After using the blue black light I am fine with not having the fancy colors. I rarely use my puter where the back light gets much use anyway.

The main reason for my choice of a bareboner was I needed as fast as possible CPU that is within a reasonable cost, and I already had Memory, 830 SSD and Windows. With the upgrades I choose my cost was still less than the 0NE-416US model.

So in the end I am okay with everything.

 

Gentech...

What are the generally accepted settings in vantage for the screen shots posted here. "performance"..."extreme"...etc. Thanks!

 

Yep! Now that's more like it! This confirms our suspicions..... MSI limited OC for the branded models, and didn't bother with the barebones units. Thanks Ken!

Yeah, from the beginning we knew MSI was playing it safe with the 680M branded models (GT70 & GT60, alike), and in earlier correspondence they indicated this was done through the MB/EC firmware. I wondered the same thing about the MSI NV VGA OC tool. Anyhow, weeks ago this was turned over to MSI R&D, and I have been expecting new EC firmware...... but now I am growing doubtful they have made a decision to do so.

 

:hi2: FYI:

New S-ar software is available for download, version: 21.012.04278, dated 09-13-2012.....

SBar20_21.012.04278.zip

 

arrrr.....my new notebook is stucked at custom....damn it.....
by the way kinda surprise that ground ( UPS standard ) service comming through faster than I expected.

 

NIce! hoping ours ship out today :thumbsup:

 

Hi guys, I need your comments please....,
I just received my MSI MS-1762 with GTX680M -GT70 Barebone 2 weeks ago from GENTECH PC.

The specification as following below:
- Screen: 17.3" 1920x1080 Full HD (Matte-type) Anti-Glare
- HDMI: HDMI 1.4, 60Hz/120Hz output 1080P, 3D Ready
- Graphics Controller: nVidia GeForce GTX 680M 4GB GDDR5, DX11 with nVidia Optimus Technology
- Processor: 3rd Gen Intel Ivy Bridge Core i7-3610QM, 2.3-3.3GHz, 22nm, 6MB, 45W
- RAM: 8GB DDR3 1600 Dual-Channel (4G X 2)
- Primary Hard Drive: 500GB 7200rpm 2.5-inch 9.5mm 16MB SATA II 3Gb/s
- Secondary Hard Drive: None
- RAID Configuration: Hard Drives RAID setting is disable
- WiFi: Bigfoot networks Killer™ Wireless-N 1103 with two antenna
- Optical Drive: 8X DVDRW DL Super Multi (Standard)
- USB 3.0: Two USB 3.0 Ports 4.8 Gb/s
- eSATA: Built-In External SATA Port
- Webcam: Built-in 720P HD Webcam with microphone
- Audio: Dynaudio Premium Sound Technology

Device Manager and basic info



System information



Benchmark with Graphics driver 306.23

3D Mark Vantage (Disable PPU) ---> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor, MS-1762 score: P21816 3DMarks



3D Mark 11 ---> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor, MS-1762 score: P6115 3DMarks



Resident Evil 5 Benchmark



Any comments please to improve or anything

 

oh dear... my mistake...thought my notebook is at candian custom but my package data (document) was there for clearance. my notebook just departed from Roseburg, OR, United States....

 

It's excellent If you have great temps in addition, that's all good!

 

So, how do I OC the core? I have no problems overclocking the memory so far, but the core always seems to game at 758mhz. Sometimes it drops for a second to low speed like 324mhz then back up to 758.... I don't see why considering it's not even overheating (I haven't seen temps higher than 81C gaming yet).

Also I have issues running 3dmark11, it marks an error which seems to be related to having two gpus, and it gets fixed by selecting just one instead of auto, problem is that it only shows Auto/Intel HD4000.

Any info/help is welcomed! I want to get this beast up and running at it's best potential.

 

the nVidia OC tool doesn't seem to make any difference, I've disable it and enable it and got the same result.

It was just standard benchmark.

 

Is it possible for the barebones folks to post elsewhere? This thread is dedicated to the MSI GT70 0NE owner's, and the whitebook MS-17626 w/GTX-680M is not a GT70, and it is somewhat a misnomer when referred to as such. Both hardware and software differences do exist. Perhaps a whitebook MS-17626 owner wouldn't mind creating a dedicated 'owner's lounge' for your model's proper designation..... and this would be helpful in avoiding any confusions.

Here is some helpful whitebook info, and a good place to start:

MSI Whitebook (msiwhitebook.com)

The MS-17626

The 'performance' setting is most common.

Your specs and benchmarks all look good to me.

I think what you are seeing all has to do with Optimus. If you look at all other 3DMark11 screenshots here, you will see they show the Intel HD4000 chip, but the 680M is still being tested during the benchmark. Perhaps FutureMark will make this less confusing in future 3DMark11 releases.

 

Fine I'll go elsewhere and make my own thread eventually

Does anyone have the 680m vbios that allow overclocking? Meaker pointed me in such direction to fix my current issues. This shall be my last post! PMs are welcome.

 

Hey, no offense intended..... just saying..... and the occasional post here is fine, ya know?

I have both vbios versions you are looking for..... PM an email address. They do not work for branded GT60 & GT70 680M models, but work fine for barebones units.

 

Hey ryzeki. I don`t see the problem with barebone people posting in this thread

Here are a link to the vbios. The Saltius VBIOS is the one you should try. It fix the GPU clock fluctuations and make them a lot more stable. Stock clocks for the 680M with this is 900/1100 and it runs on slightly higher voltage. It adds only a few degree celsius than the +135MHz you get with stock vbios, but you can overclock it even more than 900/1100 using afterburner and such. Let us know the results

http://forum.notebookreview.com/sager-clevo-reviews-owners-lounges/677055-htwingnuts-sager-np9150-clevo-p150em-review-lots-680m-benchmarks-7.html#post8751730

 

Haha no offense taken, sorry I should have placed a smiley or something at the end. I understand your point man, so don't worry!

Besides I have to work on my review and when done, will post it so that it can be the main thread for this specific model I own.

Just in case, PM is on the way!

Thanks dude! I will try them out later tonight when I get home from work.

I will try the 900/1100 vbios and see performance/stability and temps. If they are okay I will remain with those clocks! I don't want massive OC I just want a small bump for that free extra performance. Specially on the memory side since its quite underclocked on stock.

 

Sent! Check your email!

I look forward to reading your review.

 

Am I sensing some Bareboner envy?

 

hey guys, i understand from reading some posts that the power light fluctuates from orange to white depending on whether the nvidia card is in use.
the problem i have is that the orange light on 99% of the time, it is only white at the logon screen. Once logged on it stays orange the whole time. i have no gadgets on the desktop. The fan also goes on times that I'm doing nothing at all to stress the system, and i wonder if it is related. Is there any way to easily control how optimus and the video card integration works?

 

Find your own place to hang Bareboner! We can't help it if MSI put condoms on our 680M's.

 

Just wanted to jump in the mix and say I ordered my unit yesterday with Gentech and I'm patiently waiting the arrival of a beast . Lightly changed but here's the specs



MSI GT70 0NE-276US: Intel Core i7-3610QM | nVidia GTX-680M | 17.3" FHD LED Matte Screen | 16GB DDR3-1600 | 256GB mSATA SuperRAID | 750GB WD Scorpio Black | 6X Blu-Ray RW | Bigfoot Killer Wireless N - 1103 3x3 | MSi Red Logo Mod

 

Well I only did mild testing with furmark. The tested vbios are Saltius it seems at 1.037v 900mhz/2200mhz memory. I gotta say I got a bit alarmed since my GPU temps raised up to 93C and then it began throttling to keep temps in place, so this current flash is not working for me

Anyone else got vbios that are less aggressive? I was thinking of something mild.. like 820/2100 at stock voltage or something like that. I don't know the limits at stock voltage but this current vbios doesn't work for me as temps get too high.

 

Check in the nVidia control panel that the default grahpic processor is NOT set to the nVidia one.
You can change this setting in : (I'm not sure about the exact English translation, mine is in French)
- 3D Parameters
- Global parameters tab
- In the drop down list, select Internal Graphics.

But be aware that some games will not run by default on the nVidia card, you will have to create specific profiles in the driver to correct this.

 

If you want a vbios with lower clocks, you have to ask Saltius to make it for you. Or SVL. They both help the community tremendously

93C is a bit weird though, since people tend to get only a few temperature increase with 900/1100. Have you applied good paste over the GPU?
Well when I think about it I know a guy with Sager who also got low 90s with the Saltius vbios. I don`t know if he got it fixed with a new repaste though.
What temps do you get with +135 on the GPU and a overclock of the memory with stock vbios btw?

 

I sent you two versions. Did you try the one that was 1.012v? Also I think running FurMark with these is a bit x-treme. What do your temps look like when gaming or running Vantage?

 

Well I ordered with IC diamond but I guess I should repaste it. Originally furmark didn't even run correctly, always self throttling since beginning so I only had like 78C top temps after a long while.

Also, originally, I couldn't even overclock the core, only the memory. I was able to game with 2200 memory and 758 core on stock voltage and the highest temp I remember seeing was 83C degrees.

Maybe since I originally had fluctuating clocks I never noticed I had high temps to begin with? I underclocked to like 800/2100 and still got 93C after a while in furmark.

I installed the one you labeled 1.012v and it runs on 1.037v hahaha I have no idea wth is happening there. If I underclock a bit to like 850 core etc, it does say it's running at 1.012v though. Even underclocked to 800/2100 I still reach 93C with furmark albeit on a much longer period.

Maybe I should repaste, or use a vbios with stock volts and very slight OC.

Too bad I had some issues with nvflash to make it work, due to incompatibility with the files I got first etc... long story short, flashed successfully but I forgot to make a copy of my original vbios....

anyone have the original vbios around just in case? LOL

 

While i wait for my order to ship, maybe some owners can confirm something for me.

According to Microsoft, Windows 7 Home Premium only support up to 16GB of RAM

From my days with windows xp with the limitation of 4gb (from what i remember), this limitation was for total memory, including the gpu video ram (again not sure, its from what i remember), regardless as this is not xp, idk with the above statement, if 16gb from the ram and 4gb from vram will be recognized by GT70 under windows 7 hp. Just looking for some insight from people that are running this config.

 

Are you using the latest NVFlash? I have the original MSI 680M vbios download on the lead post of the thread..... in the 'Other Downloads' section.

 

As far as I remember, that 16GB limitation is only for RAM, and thus you can have 16GB of RAM and your 4GB GPU without problems. The Windows xp limit of 4GB had more to do with actual 32 bit addressing limits of 4GB total memory. With 64 bits the limit is much more massive, and the 16GB limit on the OS is because MS sucks.

As long as your OS is 64 bit, you will be fine.

 

Yeah I am, but I was a bit rusty with it. I had problems with the bootable USB because the download DOS sys file I used was not compatible with nvflash, freezing my bootable attempt. After getting trusty old Win98 bootable DOS file, I used nvflash, but lo and behold, I had a version that didn't recognize my gpu (had downloaded the latest one, but it seems I also downloaded an old version when I downloaded the DOS files in a package and didn't notice)

After all was done, I typed the commands, but then I had the wrong index, was using index 1 instead of index 0. Since it was 3am I was a bit sleepy and tired...

But alas I now have a correct version of nvflash and bootable USB, so flashing shouldn't be a problem.

Got hold of the original vbios now, thanks, so I will flashback to original after repasting and checking temps again. Maybe repasting will help me a bit to see where I stand with OCing.

What I don't like of original vbios: Clock fluctuation and unable to OC core clocks. I ran a test with crysis 2, standing on the exact same place, I had fps drops randomly on intervals, and temps never got over 83C. So I wanted to fix that and remain with stock voltage etc.

 

Actually, now that I think about it, I am not sure the vbios is the same for branded and non-branded units, alike. The one I have posted is for branded models. I'll get with Ken and see if they are the same.

KEN!!! KEN??? KEN!!!

 

Hahahah don't worry, Ken already helped me with the original vbios for my machine. He is the best and I have him on walkie talkie so I bother him all the time ahahahaha

Gentech FTW.

 

As far as I know...nowdays it doesn't matter how much ram on video card has..in OS has certainly give u limitation how much ram u can installed...you right about Win7 hp has 16gb limit but if u upgrade OS to Windows 7 Ultimate - 64-Bit , u can go as much as 32gb max. Depands on how u use ur notebook...if this going to use personal uses, not work places like need to be connect to server/ running private networked server...u should be fine with Win hp( 16gb memory). Im sure if I'm wrong, experts will chime in and help u out.

 

Hello Forum,

I am about to buy a MSI MS1762 and I have to get an answer for this question before I proceed,

Has anyone run Windows Server 2008 r2 x64 Standard (or Enterprise) on these notebooks?
Are there any driver issues?
What are the driver issues?

 

Yey another example why we need a dedicated Barebones MS-17626 thread.

ryzeki ?

 

To be honest I don't know. The core elements of both OS should be the same so there should be, in theory, not many problems to get it fully working.

The only testing with any "enterprise" version OS I have tried is windows 7 enterprise and it works without problems, so I don't know how it would work on 2008.

Tsk tsk, this proves nothing! *rants around*



I promise I will make the thread soonnnnn

 

If I had time I would open a thread, but I am just to busy to work on a good thread that would do it justice.

I do look forward to having a thread that we guys\gals with the rocking Bareboners can go and post our goodness.