***The Official MSI GT 70 w/GTX-680M Owner?s Lounge***

Got mine today, branded (thank you gentech!)

Been following this thread and i just want to confirm... my OC option are still limited barring some release from MSI.

We think this isn't going to happen (warranty reasons our who knows what / why)

Thanks

 

Congrat....Hope mine arrive here soon ...it says " Prince George, BC, Canada at 07:55am " that is 10hrs away from my work place...I hope they could push it to deliver by today.....
Can't wait to receive my new notebook...
I was thinkin about OC but it won't be good idea for me to overheat mine...I have to work with this for 8 hrs/day + playin game ( 1 ~ 2hrs ) = 10hrs X 6days/week.... +/- 2hrs

 

Curious as if any of you have used the Esata port much ? Was about to grab an external drive and use for both storage and running some VM's for testing on it and wondered if better to go Esata or USB 3?

I know the esata should be slighlty faster but have heard of folks claiming their esata experiences were quirky etc.

 

I don't have my GT70 yet, but this is my experience with USB3 n eSata with external docking stations with my old desktop n current laptop, esata is marginally faster but usb3 is close enough to for ease of use, specially once you get into 2.5 hdd enclosures that are powered via the same usb conector.

 

Mystery solved! Want to thanks to Keith helped solved this mystery.

the Throttlestop has to be running in the background so when overclocking GtX680M the CPU won't throttle.

180W adapter is enough for normal use but not extreme overclocking, it might shorten the adapter life (had damaged quite a few adapters in the past).

When I was testing GT70 w/680M the AC adapter shuts off quite a few times on me with Throttlestop running that's why I couldn't complete the test, and I found out the adapter on the table was from another company not form MSI.

So today I grab another 180W adapter from MSI and run the test again got very good result, also I want to remind everyone just like CPU/GPU the same 180W adapter are not created equal, one perform better than the other so not everyone can complete this test:

 

Thanks , exactly what was looking for , as throw in the more widely available and cheaper USB 3.0 options and looks like a no brainer to go for that instead of esata for what I'm looking for in this case.

 

I can't believe you guys did forget to use Throttlestop ! Shame on you !

By the way, glad you sorted it out!

 

Never have to and I did, was using Throttlestop with 180W made by other manufacturer keep shut off on me.

 

2days ago my current laptop shut off and no power come back on....found out that my adapter's socket plug melted and make no connection with laptop...I need my new laptop very soon...
Damn...why UPS holding mine there wearehouse one full day..and still not moving.....they are 10hrs from my work place....can't understand holding near 48 hrs on there.... sigh;;

 

Download ThrottleStop 5.00 if you have a 3rd Generation Core i CPU. Previous versions of this tool do not properly support the newer CPUs.

This will unlock the TPL button. I am not sure if the values in this window are locked or not with this laptop. It's up to the bios writers to decide if the Turbo Power Limits will be locked or not.

 

Hey ken does the gt70 one, throttle the CPU without OCing?


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Thanks unclewebb, will try ThrottleStop 5.00.

No I don't notice throttle without overclocking.

 

Quick question - what mSata drives are being used by MSI in the GT70?

 

It's the MemoRight MS-701 128GB mSATA.

 

Please click and read the following post (#1) ......

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...70-w-gtx-680m-owner-s-lounge.html#post8727826

..... and you may be interested in this post also:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/msi...-w-gtx-680m-owner-s-lounge-6.html#post8764589

 

Just got my MSI GT70 with a GTX-680M but I'm running into a strange problem...

I have an (rather old) Logitech Z680 sound system that I have been using for quite some time. Anyway, I went to plug in the 3xstereo plugs into my laptop, and found that for whatever reason, I can't use a microphone at all.

Going along the side of the laptop, front to back, I assume it's Rear L/R, Center/Sub, Mic, Front L/R audio jacks.
Well, in order to get the correct audio, I have to plug it into the 3 towards the rear of the laptop (center/sub, mic, front l/r jacks) and I cannot use any external microphone. I've tried a few versions of the driver and looked around online, but I can't find any information about anyone having the same problem. Is my laptop just bad and do I need to send it back for service?

 

I have a pretty noob question
I bought a GT70 0NE-416US. Love everything about it but it only has the one 128gb msata ssd, and I wish I had more memory. Is it still possible to add a 2nd msata ssd and put it in raid-0? I've never done anything like it, but I'm willing to try. Can I use any msata 128gb ssd to put it in raid-0 with the current one?

 

Well well...I've got my new notebook today....woo hoo~~
Lookin so good....fast and quiet...I'm installing Diablo3 right now...humm it's seems so slow..installin it from disk. I might have to leave power on untill it complete.

Thank you Ken.

 

Yes, you can do this with no problem. Any of the custom resellers here can assist you with this. You can use any other 128gb mSATA, but it is generally best to 'pair' your drives for RAID0.

Yes, it's a good idea to leave the system plugged-in when doing installs or updates, and especially when gaming. If you attempt to do anything that requires use of the discreet GPU (680M), and you are 'unplugged', your frame rates will suffer dramatically.

 

I just got my GT70 0NE-281 this week and noticed the
same thing with installing diablo 3 from dvd.It was so
insanely slow I thought the built in blu ray drive was
defective, but I got the same super slow result using
an external asus usb 2.0l dvd drive, so I downloaded
the d3 client from blizzards web site and that installed
fast. I am guessing that something in the d3 dvd install
is conflicting with something MSI installed on the GT70.

Anyone else finding installing d3 from dvd super slow?

 

Ya .. I thought I'm the only but u too..I went and look for updated driver for BDRW, I couldn't find it yet.
I have a MSI branded 276US....I thought my touch pad has scroll function...no?

In the device manager, I don't see/know manufacturer name so which company or driver to install.

 

For the track pad you need the synapics driver@ msi website. That adds the tray app and properties for features like 2 finger scroll etc.

 

humm.. I went to 276US download page...it says about the synapics driver is " Description This device uses the native driver bundled in operating system."
and there is no link for download...so should I go directly Synapic webpage, download driver and install it? Shouldn't I worry about bugs??

 

I went msi > support> laptop> gaming> gt70

Then choose my OS, selected drivers in drop down.

There are all the hardware related drivers there.

I've got the same model you do

 

I kind of had your same problem with the mic not working when i plugged it into the second headphone jack. The thing that fixed it for me was going into the Realtek HD Audio Manager and changing the speaker configuration to stereo instead of 5.1 or 7.1 surround. If you look on the right side of the realtek program you should see circles which are your audio ports. You should be able to hover your mouse over each of them and it should tell you what each of them does. The second one down under Analog should be your microphone jack. Make sure that says microphone or it wont recognize it as a mic. Im pretty sure stereo and quadraphonic both work with microphones. Good luck.

 

Seeing some problems with the keyboard, I can run forward and strafe left and jump in WOW and GuildWars 2 (W for forward, Q for strafe, space for jump) and that works fine, but I cannot move forward, strafe right, and jump at the same time. (W + E and then space to jump_ Almost like a design problem in the keyboard buffer. I see this problem in Borderlands 2 as well.

Can anyone else confirm theirs is doing the same thing? Hoping mine is broken and its not just how the keyboard is.

 

There is no driver for optical drives. what you need is DVD/BD softwares to play movies:

MSI Global – Download Center

The WinDVD MSI provided might be little old and can't play newer BD movies.

 

Humm... before this page...I wasn't make point to say movie is playing slow...I was talkin installing Softwares from BDRW are slow....my old dvd burner wasn't this slow..so I thought maybe I need a proper BDRW driver to operate.

 

I think the difference is you are using Windows 8 and I am still on Windows 7. I see what you are getting now.

When you go to control panels and mouse properties, there is no synaptics tab or advanced options then?

 

Confirmed - your keyboard is not broken, it is just the way it is...

Go here: Microsoft Applied Sciences Group

Try out the keyboard combinations you use, and you can see that with shift + space held "E" is not registered..

Sadly...this is keyboard ghosting...which is one of the big reasons I picked MSI over Alienware or Sager / Clevo. Steelseries made it's reputation on handling ghosting. Ghosting gets brought up a lot in forums.

Here is the semi-good news. The Clevo / Sagers and Alienware models are MUCH worse with ghosting - ghosted keyboard combinations right in the major WSAD group. Ghosting the main WASD group is completely unacceptable in a gaming machine. Dell / Alienware in particular hasn't listened to users for YEARS now.

We SHOULD be able to use whatever keyboard combinations that we prefer and are comfortable for us - so I say the following with sympathy because I feel you pain, and we shouldn't have to compromise:

You have options...

Bindings

If you shift your strafe keys to A and D, those keys ARE NOT ghosted with (W) forward and (SPACE) jump on the GT60/70 - also (SHIFT) is recognized for sprinting as well.

In WoW, consider mouse turning - it is much much more responsive, it is WORTH adjusting to if you aren't doing it already. However; you still will run into issues if you bind other actions you use less often on those E/R keys - but only when holding SHIFT (perhaps for a Modifier key) AND Jump.

So...

Behavior

If shifting bindings isn't enough and you still want something else on that (E) key it is going to miss unless you release (SPACE) or (SHIFT) briefly before you hit it. You have to let up on one of those. So, I would say (SPACE) as a jump key would be easy to just tap.

All you have to remember then is to release SPACE just before you hit those keys - if you are going to use SHIFT as a modifier key.

Last option... if you just can't let it go...

Hardware

Get an external keyboard made to eliminate ghosting as much as possible. This is also much talked about. Some people say they can buy a $10 keyboard that elininates the ghosting on key combos they want. Others go for the $$$100-200 Steel Series / Razer models built to supposedly "eliminate" ghosting.

Again, you shouldn't have to adjust your binds for a unit you spent so much on - and on one where the keyboard maker brags about eliminating ghosting.

All that said...it is still redick to see E ghosted but not R when doing a SHIFT + SPACE combo. Everything on that Right hand should ultimately be ghostfree...

Trust me though, we still have the best ghosting solution with MSI / Steelseries.

 

Does anyone know if Provantage sold laptops (GT70 specifically) are covered under warranty? They are not listed on the etailer listing on MSI (but that doesn't necessarily mean anything).

 

First, when I got this computer there was only generic MS mouse driver..there is no any word/ tap for synaptics..

Second, after I made a post about there is no download link for it..It was my mistake..lookin at Win8 page but when I change to win7, downloaded and installed it. now I'm ok.

Thanks for help.

 

Hey, soon to be GT70 276 owner (tomorrow hopefully) coming from a GX740 235US. Hoping to see some awesome performance differences.

Three questions:

1. Would it be a bad idea to run Windows 8 on there when I get it?
2. This is just for (hopefully) bragging rights. My friend has an early 2011 Mac Book Pro which has something like a 3720QM in there. It's 100MHz slower but has same boost as the one in the GT. Which machine is faster, by how much, and why?
3. Could this be made into a hackintosh?

 

So is the upgrade to the 72% gamut screen worth it?

The stock screen is a 60% gamut, correct?

 

No, the stock matte screen is 70-72% color gamut, and actually quite nice. So much so, I would recommend you see it before considering ANY screen upgrades. I have the 90% color gamut (gloss) screen on my GT783, and though really nice, I wouldn't say the benefit was necessarily worth the added cost. MSI made a pretty good choice for the stock screen.... as matte screens go.

You can find the notebook's stock hardware info listed HERE.

 

Still waiting for XoticPC to ship our damn GT70s.. sucks more because we are without PCs.

 

Soon to be proud new owner of the GT70. Researched everything and couldn't find a gaming laptop that had the GTX680M, good speakers, good keyboard and good cooling. I was close in pulling the trigger on the Sager 9170 but read some very bad user reviews on the speakers and also sound output. Also it seems that Sager has poor keyboard reviews as well. I liked Asus' G75 series for its design and cooling/noise but it doesn't come with the 680M. Alienware's design is too flashy and it's dell soo ya know..... All things considered i came to the conclusion that the MSI GT70 was the best compromise of all the things i needed.

One question though is that i am considering upgrading the mSATA drive to the 256 GB Mushkin one. It's a pricey upgrade ($345) but all of the reviews i'm reading on the Mushkin is that it is hands down the best mSATA drive at the moment. I just don't know performance wise, is it really worth it as a my primary drive?

I welcome all input, thanks guys.

 

Your GT70 should come with the Super Raid feature which is a "Card" that you hook 2 equal sized mSATA drives onto and then plug it into the primary HD slot for a faster overall SS drive and it doesnt share the 2 drives data but treats each as its own space so you would have buy two of those 256 GB Mushkin drives and hook them into your Super Raid card thing and it would end up at 512gb!

I dont know which model you have of the GT70 the cheaper one has two 64GB mSATAs and the top of the line one has 2 128GB mSATAs. If you have the 2 64gig ones totalling 128gigs then it would be a huge upgrade to buy the 2 256gb Mushkins and get them in there I think.. it would be pricey tho.

Mine is coming with the two 64gigs and I am going to keep them unless the space becomes an issue.. which I doubt. I only need 2-3 games installed at a time at most and I dont have movies/mp3s anymore on my comps. Plus the other 500gb drive with the system should hold any extra crap I need.

As for the Mushkins I didnt research any mSATAs yet, I am sure someone else has more infos on which are good ones to replace for Super Raid.

 

$345? Amazon and Newegg are now listing the 240GB Muskin's at $250 each, or $500 a pair. If you purchased a GT70 0NE model with just one mSATA SSD, I don't think I would bother with a single mSATA upgrade. The stock MemoRight mSATA SSD is a decent performer, in and of itself. The cost benefit for such an upgrade will be negligible, and real-world performance differences barely 'perceivable'.

If however, you are considering upgrading to 'a pair' of these, and ergo advancing to mSATA SuperRaid, this will make more sense. You will be maximizing your primary SSD drive capacity to 480GB, and essentially doubling your speeds over single SSD performance.

I have stock MemoRight 256GB mSATA SuperRaid, and believe me, it's FAST! I was considering upgrading to a pair of Mushkins, not so much for the added performance, but increasing my primary SSD capacity.

Before I spend more money or do any upgrades to this system, I have further testing to do. Currently I suspect these units (the GT60 0NE included) are insufficiently powered (180W PA) and experiencing CPU throttling. Presently my GT70 remains 'stock', and I have not flashed the 680M vbios with any mod. When I have time, I will be running several games with ThrottleStop logging in the background. If 'stock' throttling is verified, I will not be doing any upgrades to this machine, and in my view, it will be considered technically design flawed. When this occurs, it is normally due to 'cutting corners', wherein the manufacturer has failed to adequately consider necessary power requirements (or enough head-room)..... when both the CPU & GPU are under significant load. Thank goodness for apps like ThrottleStop, but no one should receive a factory original notebook that is throttling. If my suspicions are correct, hopefully MSI will proactively address the issue, rather than ignoring their customers, as other manufacturers have done. <'cough'.... Asus!.... 'cough'>

 

I`ve studied the two screens very much since I had the same issue as well.

Here are a review details both. Stock screen is the iBuyPower. The 72% gamut is the Razer blade.

Personally I went for the stock screen due to better colour accuracy. Have no idea if that was the right choice

 

Yea i am getting the GT70 (ONE-416) and the standard hardrive option is the 128GB Solid State Drive (Super RAID) mSATA - [ In Primary Hard Drive Bay ].

so does this mean it has two 128GB msata drives in the primary drive or just one 128GB in the primary and i have to get another matching 128GB msata in the secondary drive bay?

Right now the standard is showing that i get a 500GB 7200 rpm drive in the secondary bay.

The reason i was going to upgrade the primary to the Mushkin was i thought that 128GB for the primary would be too small.

 

Super raid 128 would be 2x 64gb msata drives on the system primary. RAID 0. (back your stuff up regularly!)

It all depends on how you want to run your system.

I think the intention was for the msatas in super raid to support the system drive and for documents etc. while the secondary would get program / game installs.

Storing games on the super raid is said to benefit loading times only - so any other benefit is debatable. The mechanical drives in these things have fewer platters and are faster than they used to be (even 5400 rpms).

If you still want to install games /programs on the msata super raid (OS included), I would recommend more storage.

I went with the mushkins, but I also wanted a larger SSD pool to draw from for photoshop and video editing. Even for those reasons many would say I'm nuts!


For gaming only, the 128gb as the system + light storage is plenty. Use the secondary for installs. This unit is pretty easy to upgrade where HD's are concerned BTW.

 

ok, thx for clarifying. So i guess i can go with the stock Super raid 128 msata as primary and then the 500GB 7200 rpm drive as secondary. In this config, would it be ok to install stuff like MS Office and Itunes etc.. on the mSata for increased performance?

I get alot of emails so on my current computer when outlook is synchronizing, it makes my laptop sluggish.

 

You should have plenty of room for that on the msata's. Not sure how much of an improvement speed wise you will see.

Most of the time outlook is slow for me because my mail server is slow.

Worth a shot tho...let us know what your results are!

 

If you read my Sig.....I have a larger space than stock mSata drive...my reason being chose to larger space was what Gonzorito said...I want to install few games and photoshop to save time to process when I'm workin and have some fun.

 

Cool but for the primary drive, these are the only options i have:
128GB Solid State Drive (Super RAID) mSATA - [ In Primary Hard Drive Bay ][Stock]
128GB Crucial Solid State mSATA III (Primary Drive w/ O.S. Installed) ( + 149 )
128GB Crucial Solid State mSATA III (Cache Drive) ( + 149 )
256GB Crucial Solid State mSATA III (Primary Drive w/ O.S. Installed) ( + 249 )
256GB Crucial Solid State mSATA III (Cache Drive) ( + 249 )
240GB Patriot Solid State mSATA III (Primary Drive w/ O.S. Installed) (BACK-ORDER - ETA: Mid-October) ( + 349 )
240GB Patriot Solid State mSATA III (Cache Drive) (BACK-ORDER - ETA: Mid-October) ( + 349 )
240GB Mushkin Enhanced Atlas Series mSATA III (Primary Drive w/ O.S. Installed) ( + 369 )
240GB Mushkin Enhanced Atlas Series mSATA III (Cache Drive) ( + 369 )

I'm confused because the "Super Raid" term only appears on the stock choice (128GB SSD mSata) but not on the other upgrade choices. So does that mean i can get the super raid feature on all SSD options or only on the stock SSD option?

 

Also.. just FYI the second HD slot is SATA II speed only.

 

Ah...I see now. I believe these are the selections available thru a reseller like xoticpc or such. That confused me too. I had mine configured with Ken at Gentechpc - they had more options for keeping the super raid.

I'm sure you can always call them /email and discuss what you want to do.

 

I want to thank Ken at GenTechPC for the great configuration and build. The system was put together and shipped in 10 days or less. Impressive. As others have said, Ken is quick to respond and knowledgeable. Price was competitive, even after sales tax.

My unit arrived with a dying 680m, which between posts here, and Kens help got diagnosed pretty quickly. Ken had a replacement out to me within 3 days. Optimus can be irritating but I was able to keep going with this unit while my new card arrived!!!

I've had lots of little questions since and Ken always has an answer or suggestion.

Things are chugging along nicely, loving my system. Thanks Ken, and thanks to the good people here!!!

 

Thanks man!