***The Official MSI GT 70 w/GTX-680M Owner?s Lounge***

Looks like I made a mistake. I sent off an e-mail to Ken to drop the Seagate drive and just ship it with the stock data drive. I ordered the GT70-0NE-276US.

 

Could you tell me, What is read/write speed on SATA II on GT70 ( Samsung 830, 512gb) ?

 

I just want to add to the chorus of happy customers of GenTech. Ken just sent me an email letting me know he would be shipping my laptop Monday! I had ordered a couple upgrades but then my work laptop died so I needed the new one asap and Ken came thru.

 

Wish that 2nd bay has SATA III not II....damn.
Humm...I just wondering how the MSI warranty works... says on GenTech " MSI 2 Year North America Limited Warranty / 1 Year Global Warranty " Those 2yr north america limited warranty applys Canada too ? Sure may be I'm safe for 1yr by global warranty but how about follow year in Canada? It's been awhile purchasing new laptop from US.

 

I agree, it is really a stupid place to be stingy on parts, because in 2-3 years, when SSD's price and capaticity levels are at a price that are attractive, one would consider upgrading the secondary hard disk. Ah well...

As for the garantee, because of the high malfunction rate on laptops (even my keyboard that came with my GT70 laptop is faulty), I can only recommend you buying an extra year of warranty with the laptop, so appart from the 2 years warranty, you get 3 years. It will save you a lot of money in the end.

 

I haven't ask for it but on their webpage, no option for extra warranty that I can buy it.
Ken, is it possible to put one more option that I can buy extended warranty? like xjotic pc. Just wondering...wish I could buy it with reasonable price..^ ^

 

Sorry, but I am a little at a loss why you feel you need SATA III performance, for a secondary 'Data' drive. I really don't see a real problem here. The primary slot of GT70 0NE-276US is already equipped with SATA III mSATA SuperRAID0, which is upgradable, so why is SATA II a problem in the secondary 'Data' slot? Not to be critical, I'm just curious what your thoughts were......

I can understand what you would like 'ideally', but there really isn't anything wrong with the GT70 0NE's current configuration. I think the Samsung 830 is a bit much for the secondary slot, and this is certainly your choice..... but believe me, even at SATA II, performance will be SMOK'IN!

Perhaps this will ease your mind a bit......

Upgrade Advice: Does Your Fast SSD Really Need SATA 6Gb/s?

and more specifically within this article (Part 7) ......

Real-World Tests

Anyhow, SATA III is a fairly new standard, and as it become more prevalent, I'm sure it will become more common in all drive slots. I hope this helps......

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with that drive. If that's what you want as a secondary drive, go for it! It's just when I saw the Seagate Momentus, I was'nt sure which GT70 model you purchased.

Anyhow, Welcome To The Party!

 

If you read my post you would already have an idea why =)

In my case I work professionally with 3D graphics, and especially when doing video editing, having an SSD instead of a HDD, makes a world of a difference. It would be nice to have the possibility of upgrading the secondary HD slot in the future when prices and capacities on SSD's becomes more reasonable.

 

I wonder how long the bank transfer takes? Mine have been in the "pending" state for quite some time now. Hey Ken if you are reading this, send me an email msg whatever when you have recieved my cash

 

Hey -=$tR|k3r=-

I'm not complaining on notebook or MSI....Just thought( Wished that) it would be great that 2nd HDD has SATA III... Since I often move files like size of 1GB ~ 5GB and I'm learning photography.. I do use photoshop and illustrator, takin pictures all RAW file format and save on second hdd.
I know that this 276us smokin faster than my current notebook.....Thank you for your thought and help always welcome.

 

Oh geez..... I reply to Androidsyrup, and a knekker wants to give me his two bits.

Actually knekker, I read your earlier " stingy on parts" post, and didn't feel it in need of a reply..... but you have my attention now.

Now, let me ask you this..... who said anything about SSD vs HHD? Did YOU read my post, or the article I linked? I think the point of my message was that Andriodsyrup should not feel so badly about the SATA II secondary drive slot. There is absolutely nothing stopping you from upgrading the secondary slot with an SSD, and even though it is SATA II, in the real world, it will still be SMOK'IN. Got it now?

Furthermore and since you raise the HHD topic, most here are not working 'professionally with 3D graphics', and an HDD will suffice nicely for their secondary 'Data' drive needs. Isn't most professional 3D graphics work done with much higher-ended hardware, in a graphics studio someplace? Just curious, what affiliation do you do this 3D graphics work for?

I'll give you this knekker, you certainly know how to make an impression.

No problem, and understood. Again, my point was SATA II really isn't so bad in the secondary slot, even if you use that Samsung 830. Did you read the article? You will still be SMOK'IN for those file x-fers. I realize we would ideally rather have it SATA III.

 

Just received an e-mail from Ken that my computer will ship today and should be here Tuesday! Also, from 9/15-9/30 MSi is adding an MSi Backpack, Steel Series Headphones and Steel Series Mouse to sweeten the deal even more!! I can't speak highly enough of the customer service at GenTechPC.

John

 

ya...I'm reading them right now.
After spending good chunk of my saving to get this notebook...maybe I was greedy..think that has to be perfect.
Ah well.. the technologies...I have to catching up to do....so I may ask all noob questions here....if you don't mind, help me out?

 

I am jealous! I didn't get the backpack, headphones, or mouse. Also, don't forget the $100 MIR..... I didn't get that either, dang it! Again, Welcome To The Party!

Feel free to ask all the questions you want, and no 'noob' question here......only a mutually shared learning experience.

I would only suggest you try to stay well-read on the thread, or Google first, to avoid repeat questions.

ENJOY!

 

Blargh missed the freebie bundle by like 4 days! ><

 

Where is info on the freebie bundle? i have looked everwhere. just ordered gt70 on amazon sunday due to using prime to get it in my hands fast. Would I be elible?

 

I think the offer applies to authorized custom MSI resellers only..... not the big-box store retailers or e-tailers.

Click HERE to see an example of the offers. Since I got mine, the price has reduced $50, now an additional $100 MIR, backpack, mouse, and headset.

 

#Striker
First of all I think your overreacting right now. Given you did not reply to my post, I simply just reminded you to read it, in case you wanted answer to the question that you asked. I thought you accidently missed it, but now it's apparent that you did indeed see it, but for some reason my point was not valid in your eyes, so you thought to completely ignore it.

If you just cared to reply to the post that i went out of my way in order to answer your question, I would probably have gotten your point much sooner. But If you feel that I made you look stupid, my apologies.

Sure SSD will work with SATA II, and will be a lot faster than a regular HDD, but you seem to forget that a SSD running on SATA II, will unable you to get the most out of it. So i guess what we disagree on right now is, is how much we expect of our laptop. I think it was a bad descision by MSI to skip on this part, because I do not think it would of cost them anything significant to compliment the laptop with second SATA III instead of SATA II. You might not feel the need right now, but in two years time when there are higher hardware requirements to handle data, I am sure you will start to get a different opinion of this.

As to your question regarding 3d work being done at a studio with access to work stations. The short answer is yes you are right, but I also do other smaller projects in my free time.
So while traveling, it's good to have the best laptop available.

As to your second question, I mainly do VFX in the film industry, but I've also done scinematics trailers for consol games.

My bundle also included the 1 year extra garantee.

 

knekker
I just wondering what you mean by you got the 1 yr extra garantee?
Today I have spoken to Ken that there is no other extra warranty but " MSI 2 Year North America Limited Warranty / 1 Year Global Warranty ".
Are you referring to " One Year Accidental Damage Protection (Product must be Registered within 30 days with MSI) " ? It's been there all along in configration.

 

Here's a link to the Extended Warranty, if you go down to point 4. it explains exactly what it covers.
MSI Global - Warranty Information

From what I understand by reading on MSI website, the Extended Warranty covers the same things as the 2 year Warranty that automaticly comes with the laptop purchase.

Here's a link to where I ordered my laptop, it's a german site, so if you use google chrome as browser, you can have it translate the site into English for you.
Produktsuche Notebooks Laptops billiger notebook.de

Here's a translation of the red blinking text that explains what the free promotion pack includes... " free promotional package worth 300 euros including: Steelseries Gaming Headset, Gaming Mouse, Mouse pad, Gaming Backpack, Gaming T-shirt and 3 years warranty"

 

oh ok...I will look into that at MSI.
Thanks.

 

If you look back at some of my earlier posts I also have this problem with eSata drive on this laptop - the system won't boot when it is plugged in, but works find when Windows is already booted - but next reboot causes the same problem.
Suggestion was made to update firmware on my eSata HDD, but there is none available for my model, so you might want to give that a try if the option is available to you. Ken who is one of the regular posters tried an eSata and it worked fine for him on the GT70 0ne, so it must only be a problem with some eSata disks. I'm not holding my breath for a BIOS upgrade to fix it, so having to use the painfully slower USB2 interface my HDD came with...

 

This is an annoyingly common behavior I have experienced on many systems. It has been present for far too long (win xp at least).

I've seen it where it refuses to post the system (frozen on the logo screen) and where it seems to override boot order preference in the BIOS (no matter what order you choose).

Not sure if this is caused by BIOS, motherboard, or the enclosure of your external.

See if you can enter the BIOS and check your boot order.

Try a different enclosure for you external drive...however this can be difficult because many makers use the same innards and the same interface chips.

For me this winds up being one of those less than ideal things I just have to know about and work around.



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Many years ago when I got my 1TB Lacie HD with esata connection. I never managed to get it to work with my stationary computer. Reading that you guys are having problems with esata, makes me think there's generally a lot of problems with esata. I am using USB 3.0 now with my External HD, and it works flawlessly with the GT70 0NE laptop.

 

Oh my Oh my.

Last night at about 11:30pm I finished with my notebook, shutdown and closed the lid. I heard a loud scruntch! Somehow the plastic ripped open and I just normally closed the lid. It's as if the hinge froze and when closing normally, the front and back screws tore off where they were mounted. I'm including a pic. I took the laptop to my seller and they took some pictures and sent them to MSI rma. In 2-3 days , MSI will let my seller know if I get an exchange unit of have to send it in for repair. The damage is on the bottom left corner. Only reason that I can think of is that the plastic isn't too sturdy there and maybe the hinge tightened abnormally causing the tear when closing normally. Maybe the area wasn't secured right when built ... I don't know.

So I recommend being careful when opening and closing the lid. This could be a rare case but I'm concerned of how sturdy that area is since I've been extremely delicate with my wonderful expensive machine!



Update: I phoned my seller because I wanted to press for an exchange and not a 3 week repair since I did not break the unit of my own accord. The tech told me he already received a reply that MSI would exchange my unit when we spoke. Just a big thanks to MSI , NCIX and definitely a +REP for customer service! I'm so relieved! :thumbsup:

 

So here is a screen shot of temps on my latest vantage run with my memory clocks at 2200MHz. I had already closed 3D mark vantage when I remembered to hit Prt Scr. My maximum temp was 79 degrees C. This is with out turbofan running. I played with turbo fan on a previous run and temps were around 62 degrees C. I don't recall what the CPU temps were, I will rerun that and take another screeny.

Pic of Temps:



Here is my vantage score:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3820QM Processor, MS-1762 score: P23783 3DMarks

I am a little hesitant to push the memory further to break the 24000 mark.

So anyone who claims the cooling on this machine is weak has no clue what they are talking about.

 

Gee Wiz, here we go again! I especially like the part where you suggest, " But If you feel that I made you look stupid". Really? Where did that come from?

Look, was I, or was I not, replying to Andriodsyrup? Did I, or did I not, ask for HIS thoughts? I was trying to assess HIS needs, so sorry if you felt you were overlooked. Was my point to him, or was it not, that under real world conditions, SATA II is not that big a deal for the second drive slot? Have I, or have I not, already made it clear that SATA III is a fairly new technology, and that 'ideally' we would rather have SATA III in the secondary drive slot? Who was it, whom suggested I was not reading? Who was it, who brought 'SSD vs HDD' into the discussion? Was SSD vs HDD ever the point of my post?

NOW, you want to explain yourself discussing the merits of SATA II vs SATA III in the second drive slot, right? You have even gone so far as to suggest MSI made a mistake in this regard. I think I have covered my thoughts on this already, but at the risk of being repetitive, just for you, I'll highlight these again:

1.) MSI has given us upgradable SATA III mSATA SuperRAID0..... use it!
2.) SATA II in the secondary drive slot is not really so limiting for SSD's, as cited in the 'Tom's Hardware' article I linked.... HERE and specifically HERE.
3.) SATA III is a fairly new technology, and yes, ideally we would like to see this in the secondary drive slot..... and as SATA III becomes more prevalent in the industry, we will most like see this in the future.
4.) For most, a SATA II HDD will suffice nicely in the secondary drive slot.

I've already made all these points clear, so again I ask, are you reading? Perhaps go back and re-read all the previous post. It's all right there!

and lastly, my final thought on the matter.....

5.) I do not necessarily see MSI choice of SATA II for the secondary drive slot, 'a mistake'..... and I think it doubtful 'knekker's special needs' was a consideration during the planning, production, or marketing phases of this model..... and again, I direct you to #1 through #4 above. MSI's target market for this model is gamers. A few may find this 'a mistake', and most really won't care. As in all things.... nothing is blemish free, because there is always the critical eye.

Anyhow, am I clear now? Are we done with this yet? I mean, if everyone here is entertained, we can continue this squabble.

Oh my, INDEED! This is the first I have seen this, in this series, or the GT780/783 series. I hope this gets resolved for you as soon as possible.

Thanks for sharing, and do please, keep us posted!

All of your numbers are looking great. This gives me an idea what to expect when we finally have an unlocked GPU.

Thanks for the heads-up!

 

Wish I have money to affort 3820qm....gee.

 

hey _=$tR|k3r=-
Got a question for you....how do I keep optimal speed on SSD? some says I have to reformat SSD to regain the speed. but that would be too much work I think.
how do u do?

 

Guys, just flash with the MSI FD (ES) vbios and get your GPU unlocked ! NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680M video card benchmark result - Genuine Intel(R) CPU @ 2.70GHz,Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-1762 score: P26403 3DMarks (with 304.79, expect a 5% boost with 306.xx)

 

The SSD Optimization Guide Redesigned

Hey pau1ow! How's it going! Off and on I have been watching your barebones work..... interesting stuff, and nice benchmarks BTW. Send me a link and I'll have it tested. Do you know of anyone having success with this vbios, with a branded GT70 0NE. My understanding is that there is more to it, than just the vbios..... that also the MB/EC firmware comes into play here. Ken & I have been waiting on a fix from MSI, for several weeks now. Other vbios have been tried with no luck, but I am uncertain of this one.

Thanks!

 

Hey -=$tR|k3r=-, nice thread and work you done, Im about to order mine, seems really amazing laptop, but i been trying to read all the thread to search for problems or issues before comitting $2500 on a laptop. So just wondering about your comment

Is this just for OCing the GTX680m? of bieng locked? or is it another issue with gpu? Im probably gona run it stock, the GTX680m shoudl have enough muscle to move d3 max settings, SC2 HOTS, BF3. But i do fear things like BSODs or instabilities, so just wondering if stock all should be fine?

 

Yeah, MSI decided to play it safe with their branded 680M models, by locking or limiting the GPU. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the GTX-680M, and it fully performs to spec...... so not to worry. Some of us just want to OC them a bit, that's all. You'll like!

 

It came from the fact I have obviously hit a nerve on you, and you have lost your coolness that you have displayed up and until now until I started to disagreing with you. You've managed to degrade your self to the average emotional joe, which is unfortunate because given all the assistance you have provided in this thread, I am sure many people here are thinking your better than that. My advice to you (whether you want it or not) is to refraim from using emotional phrases like the one quoted above.

I know you were asking him, but his opinion does not matter more than anyone else, as it's still a fact that SATA III in the long run, would be a much better option. And as I already said in my previous post, you might not see the need now, but in a few years you will.

I sense so much emotional frustration in these sentenses. You shouldn't let a random guy on the internet, get you so whirled up. We are just talking, relax dude. =)
Who cares who brought what and when into the discussion, just relax and try remember to take everybody's points into the discussion, cause IMO so fare they have been relevant.(even though you do not agree with me) and purposely Ignoring people is just a bit rude.

You tell me, are you going to make another emotional post, desperately trying to point out how wrong I am? I understand your points, and I agree that my needs does probably not match the average gamer out there atm, but that does not change the fact that it's a damn shame to skip on parts, that I think doesn't really cost them much. =)

 

WOW! LOL! This is HILARIOUS! The drama saga continues..... blah, blah, blah.

GEEZ, It's 6am. enjoying my first cup of coffee, and again, the first forum post I read is a ' knekker' trying to save face. NOW, on one hand he's telling me I've; " managed to degrade your self to the average emotional joe", and on the other hand he implies I am " emotional", and I need to " relax". I guess it would be nice if he made up his mind.

Personally, I think this 'knekker' dude just continues to dig a deeper hole for himself, but whatever, just my opinion. Obviously he is having difficulty letting-go, and a deep inward desire for personal recognition..... but you know what? I am done with this.

 

I am confused, are you talking about me or your self now?

 

Thanks for sharing pau1ow! This is a big help. I received the unlocked vbios versions you sent, and forwarded them to Ken. He'll be testing them today on a branded model, and hopefully they work. We'll let you know!

 

Hihi - that's great ! This should work fine!

 

Forward it to me please

 

Forward me your email address and I'll send them to you =)

 

Well my GT70 is now on its way. Can`t wait to try it out

 

You will most certainly love it. Very good build quality IMO. I have the barebones and I love the look without logos and overall finish. I am going to transfer all my games today and start working on the review. So far with a bit of OC of +40 core +100 memory, furmark got to 80C, hovering on 78C for 15 mins. Pretty nice.

 

Nice build This is a true beast.

 

Well my order is placed, as always Ken was pleasure to deal with in GentechPC.... not many upgrades just WIFI to Bigfoot Killer 1103.

 

Out of the blue question , as this is my first RAID 0 with SSD's , was curious if anything special needs to be done to keep performance/life of drives optimal over time - as in do the built in disk controllers or RAID controller or even the Intel RST software manage them as needed or is there something in particular that would help say each year I do a complete OS wipe is there a special way at that time to help keep the SSD's in top shape or just wipe and go as would any other drive?

 

Congrats Abula. I also bought mine from GentechPC. Didn`t upgrade much either, hope you also picked the free 8GB RAM upgrade

 

Hi cloudfire, nice that you also bought this great laptop.

On the 8gb, I didn't remember, but when click frm the main screen with the backpack bundle, it automatically sets the 16gb, thanks for the reminder.

The laptop seem a dream, full high end stuff In all slots, I was going with the sager9150 out wanting something more portable to work/play on my trips, but as soon as i saw the dual msata I had to make it work, found a roller that fits it, so it should be fine.

The only thing 2 things that I would love to change,

1) ssds to crucial m4 (this I might do later on)
2) i7 3720qm

But both upgrades where too expensive to be worth, then again this is only my perception.

I even was toying with the idea on waiting for haswell, but everything timed right, the gtx680m, dual msata n raid, great looking screen n keyboard, good cooling.... I just couldn't resist.


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Tested the first vBIOS that pau1ow used on a GT70-0NE-276US and here is the result:

 

Is that tested on stock 276us? after you have done it...have u try turn on the turbo....how much performances gained? wish I can gain performace with hitch...just simply install vbios.
PS. What the temp. like?

 

Thanks Ken for the continuous work.

That's weird - why can I see +135 and +280mhz in MSI AB ? If you could run both 3dmark11 and Vantage with stock vbios (902/1100, no o/c boost) and re-size MSI AB so we can see the GPU utilization, core/mem clocks - it will give us an idea of how it reacts.
For instance, by looking at your MSI AB, there was a gpu use peak down at some point, not sure if that's thermal throttle or something else.

Thanks for testing by the way - as I also have the MSI GT1762 (with GT70 0NE BIOS), it should work for you too