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    ***The Official MSI GT 70 w/GTX-680M Owner?s Lounge***

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. dale350zman

    dale350zman Notebook Evangelist

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    Thats not good I'm glad I built my gt70 and put my own ssd's in it now.
     
  2. fantomasz

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    This laptop have optimus or not?
     
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    Yes it have Optimus
     
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    I have been right clicking on programs and saying run with nvidia card and some programs do and some don't. The default is also set to nvidia. I have adobe CS3 products and none of them will run with the nvidia card they all use the built in intel graphics. Why will they not run with the better graphics card?

    Thanks
    Philip
     
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    Are you performing functions that can be accelerated? Also you should select the EXE within the drivers themselves.
     
  6. Darman

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    Hey people,

    Im owning a GT70 for about 3 Months now and just found this forum.
    Im always looking for ways to increase the performance of this machine, so I hope someone can give me some tips for beginners here.
    I checked the download section on page one but didnt want to install everything there without knowing if it is useful for me. For example what would a BIOS update do or what effect would a firmware update have?
    I also read about that RAID 0 thing. Will it only work if I insert a SSD? Or could this also improve my performance right now? How can I use this?

    My stats:
    Ivy Bridge Intel core i7 3610QM 2.30GHz
    8GB Ram
    Nvidia Geforce GTX 675M 2GB
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
    Killer e2200 network card

    Win7 64bit
     
  7. deskdollars

    deskdollars Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi,
    Does anybody know how to enable recovery option by F3 during Boot?
    Pressing F3 does nothing.
     
  8. mikeypinero

    mikeypinero Notebook Consultant

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    am experiencing some problems with my Medion MSI barebone GT70-0ne.

    1 The notebook is really noisy in idle
    2 without turbo mode the gpu fan reaches 89-90 ° C eg Diablo3
    3 The core clocks speeds are 771Mhz GPU core, but usually works to 758Mhz, and even increase the frequency 758mhz always works

    I'm thinking of returning my Medion X7821 and buy again an Alienware M17xR4 with HD7970M ...
     
  9. dale350zman

    dale350zman Notebook Evangelist

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    May have forgotten to apply heat sink paste when manufactured.
     
  10. bouuman

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    edit: deleted
     
  11. kessomatt

    kessomatt Notebook Geek

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    Hi guys, I recently did a clean install of windows 8 on my gt70 one 276. Seems to be working well so far. Are there any recommendations on upgrading the firmware and bios? That stuff is stock still.
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    If you don't want to overclock there is no point.
     
  13. kessomatt

    kessomatt Notebook Geek

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    Thanks. One other thing regarding the ssds. Is there anything I need to turn on or off in windows 8? I already turned off the defragment schedule.
     
  14. joe.ibrahim

    joe.ibrahim Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey guys, does the MSI GT70-276 support 2 HDDs other than the SSD or is it just one HDD and one SSD.
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

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    If you are sure you wont restore you could look into turning that off to save space, just make sure you have a good backup in case of issues.

    The GT60 and GT70 can either be fitted with:

    2x mSATA (Gen3)
    1x 2.5" SATA (Gen2)
    1x Optical SATA (Gen2)

    or

    2x 2.5" SATA (1xGen 3, 1xGen 2)
    1x Optical SATA (Gen 2)

    With optical to 2.5" converters HDDs or SSDs can be placed in the 2.5" or optical slots, on the mSATA models you have one less potential 2.5" slot but can put two Msata drives.
     
  16. mikeypinero

    mikeypinero Notebook Consultant

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    Continuous running tests.

    Core speeds are 771Mhz.
    I have noticed that sometimes the gpu runs at 758Mhz and sometimes 771Mhz randomly, I can not control anything.

    When work at 757Mhz with fan Turbo mode off GPU reaches 84 º C, but when working at 771Mhz temperatures increase

    Here a capture after 1 hour playing Diablo 3 with the core running at 771Mhz:


    [​IMG]

    My notebook comes with 180W AC adapter.
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

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    That could benefit from a repasting from I can see.
     
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    Download the Pro version of CPUID (free trial), choose "start log" and play for an hour and it will make a graph of the temperature of all hardware. Then come back and post your graphs for 680M and 3610QM here :)
     
  19. mikeypinero

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    Without Turbo-Cooler about 88-89ºC of gpu (max temps), and 82ºC of cpu (1h playing BF3).

    With Turbo-Cooler, about 72-74ºC (sometimes less)
     
  20. TheBlackIdentity

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    If you're on the stock thermal paste than change it to some nano diamond stuff! Antec Formula 7 or ICD 7 should do the trick.
     
  21. dale350zman

    dale350zman Notebook Evangelist

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    If it isnt running right and your still in your exchange period then change over your machine before its too late. If you take it apart and start messing with it yourself you will void your warrenty.
     
  22. Cndian

    Cndian Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi all. I have the MSI GT70 Dragon Edition 0NE-610US . Runs great but one thing... When I press the power button to turn on laptop, it takes a minute or a weee bit more to boot up to when I can log in. Any tips on shortening that boot up time?
    I have not modified or overclocked the laptop yet.
    THanks
     
  23. dale350zman

    dale350zman Notebook Evangelist

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    could go in your bios settings and edit your systems boot proccess that should speed it up.
     
  24. Cndian

    Cndian Notebook Enthusiast

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    On the rare occasion, it will boot up fairly fast (within 30 seconds). I also noticed that if you hold the power button down a little longer while turning on, you go to the bios settings. Is there different functionality to the power on button? For instance, momentarily pressing the button, to holding it down a little longer, to holding it down a longer time (which gets you into the bios)
    What I usually do is hold it down longer until I get into the bios settings, then exit without saving. That seems to boot the computer up faster that pressing the power button momentarily and then sitting around while it boots to Windows.
     
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    You could look into doing a UEFI install of windows 8 on an SSD which is the fastest boot option around.
     
  26. Cndian

    Cndian Notebook Enthusiast

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    Windows 8 is installed on the SSD.
     
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    Cndian Notebook Enthusiast

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    As I am am extremely new to this laptop and configuring it, can you let me know what UEFI boot is and how I can set it up?
    Also, I am a little hesitant on updating the video driver for the 680M I have installed. How would I go about installing the driver?
    Thanyou very much for your help
     
  29. TheBlackIdentity

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    Do a clean install of windows to get rid of the bloatware. That will cut your boot time in half.
     
  30. Cndian

    Cndian Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, figured out updating the video card. Laptop still taking a couple minutes to boot up though. Oh man. A clean install of windows 8? Does that mean I have to wipe out the whole harddrive and all I have installed?
     
  31. dale350zman

    dale350zman Notebook Evangelist

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    im surprised it takes anymore than a minute even on the standard setup.
     
  32. Cndian

    Cndian Notebook Enthusiast

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    I will shut down computer now and then time it. I'll let you know exactly how long it takes
     
  33. Cndian

    Cndian Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yep, it took 3.08 minutes to boot up.
     
  34. Cndian

    Cndian Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok, I just found out that while I have a portable harddrive or two plugged into the laptop, it takes 3 minutes to boot up. I unplugged the portable harddrives from the laptop, and it only took 20 seconds to boot up
     
  35. dale350zman

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    theres something really wrong there. I think a 15 year old laptop would boot faster. You should reinstall the os like Meaker said.
     
  36. Cndian

    Cndian Notebook Enthusiast

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    I am fairly computer illiterate :)
    what is the easiest/fastest way to reinstall the OS (Windows 8) and still keep all my files and programs?
     
  37. Meaker@Sager

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    It wont help with those external drives, there is some sort of usb conflict going on there, maybe shuffle which ones they are plugged into? Or just wait until the machine is started to plug them in (maybe use a usb hub so it's just one cable).
     
  38. dale350zman

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    Your problem is its trying to boot from your usb drives. Go into your bios and change your boot settings. 20secs is about right so theres no problem with your install of os.
     
  39. Cndian

    Cndian Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the info.
    Ok so I just downloaded the MSI Afterburner. I have the MSI GT70 Dragon Edition 0NE-610US with the GTX 680M.
    How far can I go with the Afterburner. Anyone have some good setups I can try on both Nvidia control panel and in Afterburner?
     
  40. dale350zman

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    +80 and +600 works good for me you can go a lot more with the modded bios apparently.
     
  41. Cndian

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    So, 80 is the GPU clock and 600 is the Mem clock?
    What is the modded bios?
    Remember, I am extremely new to this :)
     
  42. Cndian

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    So, I've downloaded MSI Afterburner and MSI Kombustor
    I didn't do any OCing, but I did run Kombustor. I ran the Furry and Tessy Test (GL4). After 2.5 minutes the following was displayed:
    Core going from switching from 770MHz and 192MHz and back.
    GPU throttling from -5MHz to -635MHz
    Mem 1800MHz
    VDOC 1.012
    GPU Load was at 98%
    GPU Temp was at 90deg C

    Why was it throttling?
    That temp seems a little high for not being OCed
     
  43. dale350zman

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    Was your laptop plugged in, was it using Intel or nvidia gpu?
     
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    I recently bought a GT70 0NE-446US and I have been running into some strange issues. I am not sure if this is hardware related or software (I think hardware but it's hard to pinpoint it). Long text ahead, sorry.

    When I got the laptop, first thing I did was wipe Windows 8 and install Windows 7. Everything went fine, but on next day I started encountering weird USB issues (I installed MotionInJoy drivers for a PS3 controller). It would seem that it was constantly resetting USB device. In device manager, I saw that something was up with Bluetooth driver (Atheros) so I went ahead and uninstalled it. That was a bad mistake on my part and after that I was greeted by various BSODs related to Bluetooth driver (I tried Intel drivers and it didn't help, I even tried re-installing Qualcomm drivers but it also resulted in a BSOD). I think I made a huge mistake in installing the beta drivers here, I should've went with stable ones.

    At this point, I decided to reformat since I only had 7 installed for a day and didn't really install all software I needed. So this is a 2nd Windows 7 installation and I get random registry errors (permission related) when installing Visual Studio 2012. This happened almost right after I installed Windows 7 so I decided to bite the bullet and just re-install it again (only 1 hour wasted here).

    Now, I am on 3rd installation attempt of Windows 7 (current). Installed all drivers (save for button for WIFI/radio which seems to be a Windows 8 only driver, no idea why) everything looks good, no random errors (except few minor ones with Avast), I decided to try out a game to see how well it'll run it (Sniper Elite V2). It runs great, I minimize a game for a second and see a performance warning. Strange, CPU and memory usage are very low (CPU at about 10% and memory is at about 10~15%). I exit the game and noticed first issue: it took about 2min for game to finally close. I then decided to extract a large RAR file and this is where I started to take notice: it took nearly 10min to extract a 1.4gb RAR archive. Something that should've taken no longer than 2 minutes on this laptop's hardware.

    Quick Google search pointed me to a possibility of a bad RAM stick and/or hard drive failure so I fire up Windows Memory Diagnostics first. It runs fine until it hits 21% on pass 1 of 2 (or 10% overall). It almost freezes on it. I opened the menu and it was very slow (took 30sec to render the options page). I exit the menu and it seems that entire test has stopped. I burned a MemTest v4.1.0 on a blank CD and ran that. But to my surprise, there were no errors. It only did 1 pass but that should've been enough (in my experience, if there's a bad RAM stick, it always showed up/was detected on 1st pass). I ran chkdsk, Windows error checking utility on both drivers, no errors. I also ran HD Tune on both drivers, again, no errors. I went as far as running Intel Burn test (doubt CPU is the suspect but who knows) and it ran just fine, no freezes or anything.

    I did not flash BIOS or Firmware so that's at stock (what laptop shipped with). Only thing I disabled in BIOS was UEFI (switched to Legacy mode) because I switched to Windows 7 and didn't feel like experimenting with the two (Windows 7 on UEFI).

    So now I'm at a loss. I am not sure what the issue is. The fact that Window Memory Diagnostic froze hints that its a hardware issue but the question is: which one? I bought this laptop from Newegg exactly a week ago so I have 3 more weeks to exchange it and after that I'll have to deal w/ MSI directly (I prefer to go Newegg route because they'll be quicker in this regard based on my previous experience with their RMA process).

    Thank you for reading my novel. Any help is greatly appreciated.
     
  45. WhatsThePoint

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    @Nite6
    When your Windows 7 installation completed did you install the Intel Chipset Installation Software and NetFramework 4.5?

    Did you install all the Windows 7 updates before installing games and other programs.

    Is your Windows 7 installation media good.
     
  46. Nite6

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    When I installed Windows 7, first thing I did was install chipset drivers that I downloaded from MSI drivers page (for Windows 7 x64). I then reboot the laptop and install other drivers. I install Intel HD graphic driver pre-last and nVidia driver (which I got from nVidia site, not MSI driver page) last. After this, I usually install .Net Framework 4.5 and Windows updates after.

    I usually install games and other applications (including S-Bar and KLM) after all drivers and Windows updates have been applied.

    By Windows 7 installation media do you mean the DVD? Then yes, it should be good. I burned a DVD from Windows 7 SP1 64 bit ISO and I don't see anything wrong with it.

    Thanks again for the help.

    EDIT: Did some research on WMD (Windows Memory Diagnostics) hanging/freezing at 21% and it seems to be a known issue (only happens on extended test). Since memtest86 didn't detect any errors, I am now thinking that its more of a software issue (maybe a driver). That's still vague though because I was not able to reproduce the symptom from before (performance degradation in Windows).
     
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    Is Windows 8 really that bad?
     
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    I have taken a couple screen pics without any OCing
    Screenshot (2).jpg Screenshot (1).jpg Screenshot (3).jpg
    I started Kombuster through Afterburner. As you can see, it is showing the 680M at upper right and the Intel graphics card at upper left. I have both Afterburner and Kombuster set for the 680M in Nvidia Control Panel.
    The pictures were taken with Kombuster running about a minute, so these temps are not that hot, but after 2 minutes, the temp would be over 82deg C. Close to 3 minutes, temps would be a little over 90deg C
     
  49. GenTechPC

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    It throttling to protect the power adapter.

    MSI has release beta EC Windows 7 and Windows 8 models to stop throttling :

    BETA EC for GT60 (16F3) & GT70 (1762)



    Maybe it's your hard drive or SSD read/write issue, try download Seagate Seatool and run the long generic test see if it will pass the test:

    SeaTools for Windows | Seagate
     
  50. WhatsThePoint

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    @Nite6 ,did you try setting the power mode to High Performance?

    Is the primary drive formatted and all partitions deleted using the Disk Options Utility on the page right after Custom Clean installation is chosen in the Windows 7 setup?
     
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