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    OMG: MSI is coming with a GTX 980M SLI notebook!!!

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by Cloudfire, Oct 12, 2014.

  1. Terrablade

    Terrablade Notebook Evangelist

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    Well the question states taking into account the currently available products from both end. I take it that the latest AVAILABLE MSI is the GT72 2QE DOMINATOR PRO ( 980m ) and the Latest M18 being sold at the moment. Leaving aside the ( this is MSI forum or Alienware forum ) in all Honesty which one outperforms the other in most of the aspects. ( The MSI catches my eyes because the MXM is upgradable ) You can bring into the equation the Gigabyte and the Aorus and the ASUS too.
     
  2. Killerinstinct

    Killerinstinct Notebook Evangelist

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    Can't you do your own research and come to a conclusion your self? Why take the word of others when you are spending $2000?

    First the M18 only offers the 880M , only HIDevolution or something like that offers the 980M SLI, currently I would take the m18 since it offers a pls screen and sli.

    Overall the gt72 loses compared to a M18 unless you want a 17"
     
  3. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    I guess where I am having a problem, is you come into an MSI forum thread, where the topic is about an upcoming, unavailable SLI model, and ask, 'Which one is better, the GT72 or AW18'?

    Since you seem inclined to the GT72, I recommend find the specific model which most appeals, and is within your price range. Then find the most comparable AW model, and compare specs, warranty, and price, and then see how you are inclined. Once you have done this, and if you still have questions, then go to the specific thread for the model in question.

    Simple!

    :)
     
  4. Terrablade

    Terrablade Notebook Evangelist

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    And I do get your point but I lack the knowledge you guys have. I can only compare what is obvious but can not get into detail of them, You guys can easily gut out every aspect all the way down to the latest pin. Hence I asked here. It was going to be the same if I asked in AW forum. So thats why I asked in all honesty considering the aspects of them down to every screw which one is better hands down.

    If you dont have the knowledge its close to impossible to cross-reference the aspects. You go to a doctor to see whats wrong with you and you trust his word ( sometimes ). Same if you go to any professional thats why they are professionals and thats why I came to you folks regardless of the forum I posted in. I would take your advices since budget is not an issue for me.

    last paragraph was aimed at KillerInstinct
     
  5. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hey, when choosing a notebook, it is ALWAYS different strokes, for different folks, so it does require a little bit of work on your part. What is often one persons 'no-brainer', can be another's 'deal-breaker'.

    I can tell you the GT72 is pretty AWESOME, and is definitely a performer..... I love it. Have you read post #1 & #2 HERE? Also, take a look at this review, HERE! If a gaming notebook is your cup of tea, and I placed this notebook in front of you..... You'd Like!

    :)
     
  6. Terrablade

    Terrablade Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes I saw those links and thats where I say for ME they look the same, the difference I saw is the better cooling system on the MSI and that the MXM is upgradable to future specs. But thats all i can notice. You guys can see the soul out of all of them.

    So take away the personal liking away, and put them next to each other The latest MSI and the latest AW. Comparing power, speed, screen, resolution, and the other perks which one would you say, this one wins?

    Ive been an AW since day one, but if there is something better I can easily swap sides. ( The thing that attracted me the most was actually the colors u can put on AW and the MSI does it ) hence I say, keep the personal liking away.
     
  7. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Ok, well you are missing an important point here, and that is, you've come to the wrong place, and this discussion is off-topic for this thread. Take this to the GT72 thread..... I'll take the time to look over the current AW listings, and offer an opinion in PM. But give me a moment......

    :)
     
  8. Terrablade

    Terrablade Notebook Evangelist

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    No problem. Ill drop this discussion not before thanking you guys for the time spent helping me with this headache.
     
  9. Killerinstinct

    Killerinstinct Notebook Evangelist

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    You can still learn what we know, the stuff we mostly talk about in this forum is nothing like getting a comp sci or engineering degree , just look up the discussion that are made and try to follow them, when you run into something you don't know look it up. I am sure you found this site by googling something related to laptops. If someone else has the knowledge then you can gain that same knowledge.

    Give an man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat forever :)
     
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  10. Starlight5

    Starlight5 Yes, I'm a cat. What else is there to say, really?

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    This keyboard looks so lovely! Amazingly lovely, I'd say.
     
  11. Ningyo

    Ningyo Notebook Evangelist

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    Kind of like the mechanical keyboard idea. In a large 18" case they have the room with the newer more miniaturized components.

    On the other hand I think it was a bad idea for a different reason. On a laptop your viewing distance on the screen is directly related to your typing on the keyboard. Moving the keyboard out 5-6 inches from the screen will obviously therefore increase the viewing distance by that 5-6 inches. Now my eyes are about 30" from the screen on average, raising that to 36" is an increase of 20%.

    An 18.4" screen is 18% larger than a 15.6", but when you take the added viewing distance into affect it will appear to be about 1% smaller than a 15.6" display.

    Also moving it 5-6 inches further from you will push it back on desks making it take up a lot more space.

    .|. Edit: better yet -=$tR|k3r=- I wasn't even right, I thought it was an 18.1" but its really
    V 18.4" :thumbsup: All fixed now.
     
  12. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Really? Well, this confirms it...... I guess ANYTHING can be over analyzed. :D
     
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    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    There are no limits, Striker :)
     
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    aethelbert Notebook Evangelist

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    I think it looks OK, it's just not your traditional laptop setup.
    Sort of wish they just took they GT72 chassis and extend it remove the optical drive and install a 2nd GPU + fan.
     
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  16. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Amen!

    That is exactly what I wanted. Bigger GT72 casing and one more fan. It wiuld have been perfect.

    Not this frankenstein that looks like a crash between Commodore and a modern laotop. Just look at the design. So much space wasted
     
  17. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    I want to see some better hi-res photos, and opinions may change somewhat when we see this.

    With current images, to me the GT80 is butt-ugly, but I suppose if the features and performance are there, you can learn to love anything. It’s not exactly a design that draws you in for a closer look.

    If I were liken it to an actual weapon, I see the GT80 like an AK-47….. ugly as hell, as compared to a modern M-4…… but once you start shooting the AK, you realize it’s pretty bad-@$$, and it grows on you, LOL!

    Rather than a modern look, to me the design looks more ‘retro’, like past designs….. almost like early 80’s Commodore, Timex, Atari, or Apple PC systems.

    Anyhow, I am betting I own one of these before Cloudfire does!

    :D :D :D
     
  18. Killerinstinct

    Killerinstinct Notebook Evangelist

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    This picture could have been prototype pic they wanted to release lol they are probably looking at everyone's reactions hopefully
     
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  19. Splintah

    Splintah Notebook Deity

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    When I see that picture I get the strong urge to destroy it to make sure it never reproduces.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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  20. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Agreed, this is why earlier I noted how targeted the release/leak was..... seemed to be very specific. I would not be surprised if this notebook doesn't take on an entirely different look, by the time of it's release.

    :)
     
  21. ryzeki

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    So much hate! I absolutely love the design. I don't mind the keyboard placement, because I never use palmrests anyways (I game with an external keyboard) and now we get a full sized gaming mechanical keyboard... count me in! All In all, I like this new design. I want to know and see the middle part housing and how they are accommodating cooling inside that thing.

    As long as the rest is top notch, in cooling, components, upgradeability and performance, I am fully approve haha :)
     
  22. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hey, no hate here..... AK-47's are awesome, but still butt-ugly, LOL!

    Absolutely! If performance, cooling, and fan noise meet the mark, it will be a winner..... but still butt-ugly!

    And I bet I own one of these, before you too, ryzeki.

    :D :D :D
     
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  23. GenTechPC

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    I wouldn't say that:

     
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  24. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Hahahaha. Maybe that's what they have in plan lol :D
    Excellent video skills btw Ken lol
     
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  25. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    LOL! Yeah, a tail-gate party in a notebook....... it's GENIUS!

    :D :D :D
     
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  26. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    I'm probably among the few here that has actually hold and shoot with AK-47 and I'll say function >>> form :) Same goes to the GT80, or whatever they call it. As an added bonus it seems to be perfect MoBo donor for an M2010 resurrection project :D Yeah, I love kinky stuff :p
     
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    Now that's exactly what they should have done! Made that keyboard + trac/numb pad wireless.
     
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  28. ryzeki

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    I knew GT80 had the best features! Excellent video Ken hahaha :D
     
  29. 1nstance

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    I'm impressed.
     
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    HMMMMM challenge.... Let's see what happens :D but it looks very expensive...

    *I don't need a house or car anyways* :)
     
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    To me it looks like they sat down and said:

    Do people tend to use an 18 inch machine the same as a smaller one.

    The answer is no, they tend to be left on cooling pads away from the user, most of the time they have an external mouse. So they have changed the design to accommodate that.
     
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  32. triturbo

    triturbo Long live 16:10 and MXM-B

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    Precisely and I've actually tried to play with the touchpad a few times (didn't want to get the mouse out of the bag for 10min, or its batteries were out). Of course I'm not going to win a tournament, but a touchpad like the GT80's one would've been quite handy.
     
  33. 1nstance

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    I have to admit that one thing I do like about this laptop is the touchpad a la Razer Blade style. Actualy, the position of it is what I like the most.
     
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  34. Ningyo

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    No bigger GT72 casing and one more fan would have been very nice.

    This would have been perfect:
    Ultra narrow bezel 15:10 ratio 20" Display (Like the Panasonic Toughpad) G-Sync enabled 100% sRGB (This could fit in an Alienware 18 form factor)
    i7-4910mq (or i7-4970k maybe)
    2 x GTX 980m SLI
    Ultrabay like lenovo y510 to give option of Optical drive, HDD, or a THIRD 980m for SLI
    Great cooling system of course
    Could look like the picture below though a little thicker probably.
    [​IMG]
     
  35. Support.1@XOTIC PC

    Support.1@XOTIC PC Company Representative

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    Hey Everyone!

    Officially announced and all that good stuff!

    Check out the MSI landing page here

    Feel free to google out our own landing page, but here is the information provided so far. We'll update our page as more information is provided.



    MSI Unveils World's First Gaming Laptop
    with Mechanical Keyboard
    18-inch trailblazer with Dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M video cards sets an unprecedented bar for portable gaming
    City of Industry, Calif. - November 3, 2014 - MSI Computer Corp, a leading manufacturer of computer hardware products and solutions, unveils the GT80 Titan, the world's first gaming laptop with a mechanical keyboard and SLI graphics solution.

    First of its kind, MSI's GT80 Titan ushers the future of gaming by integrating a SteelSeries gaming keyboard with Cherry switches into the 18-inch gaming beast. The GT80 also features dual NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M GPUs in SLI, Intel's latest mobile CPU and a variety of other high-end gaming technologies.

    "Performance is key for gamers and the GT80 Titan will forever change the mobile gaming experience," says Andy Tung, president of MSI Pan America. "We are proud to be at the forefront of the gaming evolution and will continue to provide solutions that deliver the most outstanding gaming experience in the world."

    The GT80 Titan will be the first gaming notebook in the world outfitted with the world-renowned Cherry switch mechanical keyboard, guaranteeing outstanding tactile key feedback and eliminates key jamming even during the most heated battle sessions. It will also be the first MSI gaming notebook armed with a very powerful NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M SLI configuration, boosting performance that goes well into the range of desktop graphics cards.

    "The GT80 Dominator blends the performance of a high-end gaming desktop with the mobility of a laptop," adds Tung.

    To receive the latest news about the GT80 Titan, including specs, availability and pictures, check the teaser page for the GT80 Titan here: GT80 TITAN.
     
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  36. Ningyo

    Ningyo Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks Derek, your second link for the specs seems to just go to the same page as your first link though, and only has a picture of it.
     
  37. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    Yup, because specs are not released yet and they're the same link. For now you'll pretty much only find that information but the actual specs should be made available here in the coming weeks. Once they are we'll be updating our page (which I can't link directly but if you want to google it and post, power to the people), MSI will likely do the same.
     
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  38. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Ok it doesnt look that bad from this view. Cant wait to see this fully unveiled :)

    [​IMG]


    @Derek: Any hope we might see it ship this year?
     
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    Do we know if this will be released with a real socketed CPU, an Intel Extreme CPU option and real honest-to-goodness MXM modules, or will it just be another BGA Ultraturdbook with a second GPU?

    I might be interested in snagging this machine if it will support a fully unlocked CPU and they didn't cheap out on the BGA crap. It looks snazzy enough.
     
  40. Killerinstinct

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    I starting to think, that it might have a desktop cpu :D ... maybe
     
  41. Support.1@XOTIC PC

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    I'm thinking so, we typically only see 2-3 weeks lapse from announcement to shipment. More details will be coming shortly I'm sure. I can post back as soon as I hear.
     
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    Everything hinges on CPU socket, Extreme CPU support and MXM slots and I'd be on it right now since Alienware has dropped the ball.

    If it is BGA on either one it will instantly be a deal-killer and I won't even touch it with a 10-foot pole.

    Looking forward to finding out if it meets these minimum hardware prerequisites. Looks really nice.
     
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    it actually sounds like something made by gamer for gamer
     
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    That's exactly why MSI comes to meet with us! They specifically come to our facility and get our feedback and this is one of the things we suggested they look into about a year ago, all due to the feedback of our customers and those of you here on NBR. Lo and behold, here it is for everyone to enjoy! :)
     
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  45. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Cloud, how you are always able to break news is beyond me :D
     
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    Really want to know if it's all soldered. Despite having just bought a P170 w/ 980, that might find it's way up for sale shortly...
     
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    Worst case scenario is 4980HQ Mr Fox. Yes its not replaceable but 4GHz CPU will offer a lot of power for most. Me included I think. With some tweaking you might get some decent overclock with it as well. For me it is the GPU that matters most and MSI will undoubtly use MXM cards,

    Im very curious to see whats underneath the huge area above the keyboard. Some sick heatsinks and fans perhaps. Interesting time ahead :)
     
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    Well, I certainly hope not. If we're stuck with any boring HQ permanently welded to the motherboard it's going to instantly fall off my list of potentially acceptable options. It also needs to be able to be upgraded to GTX 1080M SLI next year without replacing anything except GPUs.

    Bummer :( ... I was even getting excited there for a few minutes. Wonder if it will even have enough of an AC adapter to accommodate the kind of extreme CPU and GPU overclocking that I would demand of it most of the time?

    As thin as it looks in the images, I suspect that area between the hinges and keyboard is where they have stuffed MXM cards. I'm a bit worried about it being too thin to be awesome. There's zero wiggle room in the chassis of the M18xR1/R2 and this looks much thinner. If it has a CPU socket and PCI-e slots, that must taken a lot of thought and creativity, or maybe it just looks thinner. There has to be room if you want great things. Should be interesting to see how it is built.
     
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    Awesome. This thing just moved up in my to-buy list :)
     
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