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I wonder how you got it to stick when others didn't? Any ideas?

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I did notice it was 64GB 4x 16GB memory, and it posts and you can get a reading, but is it stable for usage long term?

Can the memory be pulled from the hard to reach spot and the new fast memory run as 2x SODIMM's from the easy to access location - in case it's not stable long term and the new owner wants an easy access point for further fast SODIMM testing?

Then once he finds a stable make/model @ 2x SODIMM's, he can upgrade the hard to reach slots - and hopefully 4x SODIMM's config is stable too.

 

All you have to do is enable XMP in the BIOS, says so on G.Skill's spec too, runs at 2800Mhz at all time:

 

Yes it was the 16GB X4. It's stable with no issues at all.

The hard reach spot will be the 2 slots on the other side of the mainboard, you need to complete tear down the unit to reach it.

 

so you just set it to XMP 1 and it ran @ 2800 MHz?

 

Yup, that's it.

And you can also do custom XMP.

 

ok I've changed my order to include the 2800 MHz G.Skill RAM then

Thank you so much

 

As expected. Sorry bro

 

I don't have 3000MHz to test right now but I think it will work too.

 

Order changed for the 20th time, I told them to put the 3000 MHz RAM. Ill try to figure it out

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/ordered-a-msi-gt73vr-7rf-titan-pro-425-from-hidevolution.800581/page-24#post-10445372

 

Dude, nooooo!!

Start with as much known stable configuration as you can, then you will enjoy the experience now, and not return it!

I'd still go with the stock configuration and run that for now. Long term you can improve things as you find multiple supporting reports for specific make/model faster memory with actual owner performance reports to see if it's even worth the trouble.

At worst, go for the 2800mhz memory that's reported to post and work, but don't go for an untried untested part... even if it posts at 2400mhz the 3000mhz might not be stable long term.

Smooth slow moves man, slow and "stable" wins the race

 

if it was easy to open the laptop I'd gree with you. But since it needs the motherboard to be removed. I'll take my chances with the 3000 MHz RAM. I'm sure I can figure it out if 2800 MHz works

worst case scenario, if it runs @ 2400 MHz. then that's what the default RAM is anyway so

 

If it doesn't run stable, there's noting to adjust so then you gotta replace it, which means you'll send it back... sigh... maybe at least back off to the 2800mhz that @GenTechPC sees post at 2800mhz speed, maybe it will be stable too.

 

no I can go to MSI support in Dubai and have them replace the RAM

that's the good thing about ASUS/MSI, they have outlets that are authorized service centers. ASUS has its own service center

 

Please http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...rom-hidevolution.800581/page-25#post-10445403 @Phoenix I know you can do it!! I have faith in you. At least this time

 

Phew!! That's better, although you still need to wait to source the right memory and have it delivered.

I hope the 3000mhz posts for HID and you

 

If you mean you killed any possibility of @Phoenix having a pleasant GT73VR experience by introducing early instability (and eventual irritation) into the configuration, then yes I agree

 

@hmscott

you guys will love this, Papusan is in the middle, click on the spoiler: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/clevo-overclockers-lounge.788975/page-989#post-10445427

 

HIDevolution just tested again, while it does show 2800MHz in the BIOS like you showed me here, in Windows, when you check in HWiNFO it only runs @ 2400MHz same with the 3000 MHz RAM as well

 

It might be the hwinfo version, use multiple apps to check / verify / confirm.

....Pssst, reinstall the stock memory and stick in 2x more for 64GB, you'll love it

 

Trying to kill off BGA, one Fluffy Bunny at a time

 

At least. They should test so you can get the fastest possible ram. They can test 2 of them in the easiest ram slot. Put in all when they have the numbers.

 

we are testing all RAMs now, I am with them on Skype, testing with AIDA64

now testing 2666 MHz.

 

2666 MHz RAM not booting at all

 

ok 2666 MHz RAM booted now and it runs @ 2666MHz but with 18-18-18-43 timings. Benchmarks on the stock RAM were better so I am sticking with the stock 2400MHz Kingston RAM. Enough of this headache

 

So i'm reading about this ram but I do not see what memory test were ran to verify it's stable? Or did I miss a few post??

 

Only benchmarks and none memory tests I think. And he go for the stock 2400MHz MSi use http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...rom-hidevolution.800581/page-24#post-10445352

Edit: @Phoenix http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt73vr-titan-017.html?startcustomization=1 offer 64GB (4x16GB) CORSAIR Vengeance DDR4 3000MHz for MSI.

 

Given some time there will be others going through the headache of testing through a bunch of higher speed memory options for the new Kabylake GT73VR, running on them day to day until they finally find a stable 2x and 4x set - then they will post it and you / we can reap the benefits

Fluffy Bunny Saved

 

Have you seen my post?↑↑↑

 

That's a great find, but I'm wary about such a high speed success from Corsair while G.skill is failing; especially with all the offerings topping out at 2400mhz at XoticPC; I hope XoticPC tested enough with it...I'd still wait for owner reports from the field.

 

I did not say these work... But it *may* exist alternatives!! Buy full package low end ram stics for full price now, is not my recommendation sir As said previous... 2x8GB is enough for now.

 

Right, I'd actually recommend living on the original stock memory, and leave the slots open for when we can nail down a stable high speed recommendation.

@Phoenix and HID can probably come to an arragement to swap the old memory as partial credit for the new shiny stuff later

 

I fix it for you my friend

 

Hmmm, it comes with 2x8GB stock... I thought it was 2x16GB...maybe pick the MSI stock 16GB SODIMM used in other stock configurations for the MSI GT73VR 7 series as a placeholder for now.

 

Not changing the RAM anymore guys. I've had 3 days of headaches and constantly swapping RAM i'm sticking to the Kingston 2400MHz which is the stock RAM

 

Sorry bro

 

No need for others to try when it can be done now and find answers in as long as 12 minutes or as little as 10 seconds.

I'm not one to wait for months before problems are found out. I rather find them out sooner than later.

 

@Phoenix Have you read this?

"stock thermal pads on vram are very low quality....with 100% continuous use of GPU, you should change the thermal pads of GPU vram with better quality like Phobya or Minus 8....
suggestion / opinion from more expert users are on the way....."

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...cussions-lounge.794968/page-287#post-10445569

 

Yeah, it's too bad nothing they had in stock was working. It sounds like they tried what they had and still no luck, even at reduced speeds.

That's why I suggested moving the stock memory to the easy to access slots under the back panel, so @Phoenix could order a bunch of sku's to test on his own right away, pull the stock memory and test using the back slots.

I also recommended to use 4x16GB of the standard stock 16GB SODIMM that MSI ships in their preconfigured models, that way you know it works long term, and the benefit of higher performance memory is lost in day to day use anyway.

For me, and most people I help, stable operation wins out over the negligible unnoticeable improvement from higher performance memory in these laptops.

 

The problem with that is...It might need to be placed in the 2 hardest lots to actually power on.....

And even stock ram can have problems unfortunately.

 

@Phoenix Have HID examined whether there is a MAIN RAM slot in this machine? May be that such slot can accepts faster memory.

 

Yeah, that's what I was wondering while this was going on, how were they testing it and what slots were they using.

IDK, I've had many years on stock memory, and high speed memory as sku's that are stable are found, and so far no failures long term.

I have seen more than a few memory failures looking for help turn out to be gingerly placed memory not going all the way in the socket.

Usually describing the bottoming out of the memory stick in the socket and then rolling it into place till it clicks solves 99% of those

 

Yeah, I saw the original post and his response. It sounds like a bad GPU batch more than anything. The other laptops he based his decision / choice of MSI on haven't failed, and the 2 he got were the same batch.

I wasn't going to comment, they are already working on it. If the VRAM pads theory pans out, then I'll be interested

 

After lengthy agonizing over the decision, I ordered one of the new EVOC 16L-G-1080 machines from HIDevolution today. It's due to ship in approximately 3~4 weeks.



(Photo credit: Eurocom and HIDevolution web sites)

This isn't going to be a gaming rig, but rather an engineering and programming workstation. Yes, I'm a gamer, but this will mainly be my work machine. I have a full tower rig where I do most of my gaming. That being the case, the specs below may surprise you a bit if you're used to seeing a gaming rig optimized for FPS.

I'm moving to this new laptop from an early 2013 Macbook Pro Retina. The new Macbook Pro doesn't have the GPU power or RAM capacity I need, substitutes a gimmicky TouchBar for the function and ESC keys programmers need constantly, and has what I consider to be a lousy keyboard.

SPECS (SUMMARY) OF MY MACHINE:

• Bin-picked Silicon Lottery CPU, Core i7-7700K LGA Kaby Lake, delidded, repasted, and undervolted/overclocked by HIDevolution to approximately 4.8 GHz
• NVIDIA GTX 1080 GPU, 8 GB VRAM
  
• 32 GB (2x16) G.SKILL Ripjaw 3200 MHz RAM
• 15.6 inch 4K Samsung PLS display panel
• Samsung 960 Pro 2 TB NVMe SSD in Slot 1. Slot 2 and SATA bay empty for now.
• Intel 8625 WLAN card
• Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (because I need disk encryption and some of the admin tools)
  
• A couple of spare power adapters and other miscellaneous items

MY APPLICATIONS FOR WORK:

• Programming in C#, Python, and other languages
• SQL databases (local to the machine, for mobile data analysis) of fairly significant size
  
• Tons of sysadmin work, testing, and use of custom data analysis tools from a command shell
• 3D modeling and CAD work using Blender, 3D Studio, Substance Designer, Substance Painter, GIMP, Audacity, and other tools
• Visualization, rendering, and simulation using Unity game engine and related technology
• Extensive use of Linux and Windows virtual machines in VMware Workstation for testing and to do things in Linux that are much easier than in Windows
• Creation of lengthy (100+ pages) and complex-formatted technical analyses for customers in MS Word
• The usual office productivity apps
• Video editing in Lightworks, and audio editing in Audacity
  
• As a side project (outside my day job), creating Unity tools and assets for sale on the Unity Asset Store

NON-WORK APPLICATIONS:

• Game development in Unity as a hobby
• Modding of The Elder Scrolls (Oblivion and Skyrim) -- have published a very large Oblivion mod
  
• Gaming when I'm stuck in a hotel on a business trip (favorites: Elder Scrolls 4 and 5; Fallout 3, NV, and 4; Dragon Age Origins and Inquisition; Dishonored; Bioshock; Portal 1 and 2)

Now, let me just say up front that I know a lot of gamers consider a 4K screen a liability rather than a feature. I get that, but for my CAD and CAD-like applications, it's a very valuable feature to have retina resolution. I've tested my applications at 4K on another machine, and of all the tools I use, only two of them have significant issues with high-DPI displays. CAD tools *expect* high resolution and handle it very well. For the few times when I'm gaming on the laptop instead of my tower system, I'll probably set the game to 1080p resolution just like everyone else.

For the two tools that have DPI issues, I found I can work around it using Microsoft's "compatibility mode" scale settings for the specific executables.

The retina resolution is also nice for editing Word documents with two pages side-by-side, because I can have the full pages on the screen at once but still read and edit the text.

The CPU speed will be really nice for virtual machines, database queries, and some of the pre-rendering steps in CAD and Unity. Right now I have a "lightmap bake" process that takes over 6 hours on my 2.8 GHz Mac, so I'm really looking forward to how fast that will run at 4.8 GHz or better on my new machine!

I'm a Linux sysadmin and programmer, but I'll be booting Windows on the new machine because:

• Some of my 3D tools need DX11, which won't run in a virtual machine unless the underlying physical host is running Windows, and
• Linux runs extremely well, at near-native speed, in a virtual machine, and
• Windows 10 Anniversary Edition now has an integrated Linux subsystem based on Ubuntu, so I can do a lot (but not all) of my Linux work right in Windows now

HISTORY, AND ORDERING EXPERIENCE:

(I apologize for this part being longer than usual, but I think it's relevant to understand why my specs don't match up exactly with what most people want in a "gaming laptop".)

I'm a computer engineer with a hardware design background (from 30 years ago), but I am utterly new to the world of overclocking.

I started researching my new machine in September of 2016, and in November I ordered one of the new Razer Blade Pro 2016 systems directly from Razer. It arrived December 19. Those machines have a fantastic build quality, stunning screen, and amazingly slim and light footprint. The performance won't beat a high-end Clevo or AW, but it was more than adequate for my needs. I absolutely loved the RBP -- but after 11 days of flawless performance, its SSD failed and could not be brought back online even after BIOS reset and other troubleshooting attempts. Reluctantly, I returned the RBP to Razer for a refund. Other people were also having SSD and stability issues. The fact that a repair means 10 days without a computer convinced me that the RBP just isn't ready to be a workplace engineering machine. I'm really sad about that, and I think Razer will eventually fix the issues. Unfortunately, my Macbook Pro has a dying keyboard, and I don't have time to wait for Razer. I loved that machine while I had it, though, and I wish Razer all the best as a company.

So....back to the drawing board!

From Notebook Review I learned about HIDevolution and took a look at what they had to offer. There were some good possibilities, but no exact fit to my specs. I spent 90 minutes on the phone with @Donald@HIDevolution going over requirements and discussing options. That was about 3 weeks ago, and in the intervening time Donald and I have exchanged phone calls and emails on a number of occasions. He was probably really tired of my dithering, but he was always knowledgeable and willing to help me weigh options.

Last week @Donald@HIDevolution emailed to tell me about the new 16L-G-1080, which is based on an MSI 16L13 chassis, and asked if this would of interest to me. After looking over the specs, reading and watching some online reviews, and trying out my wife's similar (but with a 1060 GPU) machine, I concluded that this was a great fit for me except for one thing: lack of a 4K screen. I installed and tested some of my 3D tools on my wife's 1080p machine, and while things worked "okay", it's definitely less pleasant than having 4K resolution. Honestly, I'd have been happy with 3K on a 15.6", but hardly anyone makes that resolution, and the machines that have it fall short in other areas for me (notably the keyboard).

After some internal debate, I decided that if a 3K or 4K version of the 16L-G-1080 was coming soon (as in, a month or less), I would wait for it, but if it was not going to be available at all, or would be long delayed, I would go ahead and order the 1080p version.

I called HIDevolution this morning, and asked the question. Shazam!!!!! They had literally just finished setting up procurement for the 4K version and simply hadn't put it on their web site yet!

That was all I needed to hear. Decision made, I placed the order this morning. w00t!

I must say, @Donald@HIDevolution has been amazing throughout this process. I've taken up a lot of his time with my decision and a lot of detailed technical questions, but he has been unfailingly helpful and informative. I'll also give a shout-out to @Phoenix, @Mr. Fox, and several others who have answered questions here on NotebookReview.com to help me narrow my options and learn the basics of overclocking.

I'm excited to have my machine on order at last, and entirely confident of a positive experience with HIDevolution.

HUMOR NOTE:

With all my research, I carefully built a spreadsheet with about 15 laptops that were my top candidates, and comparative specs on each. How ironic that in the end the machine I bought was not on my spreadsheet at all!

 

Added your thread to my "watch list" and I think you are going to be very impressed with this little beast.