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    Be A God of War - The new MSI GT80S 6QF Titan SLI!

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Oct 25, 2015.

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    You can get it on external monitors just fine.
     
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    If you buy a 4000 dollars laptop, you don't expect to buy an other monitor... especially when the last GT72, have it Gsync.

    I'll buy a portable gaming when they have 4k in 18,4" (with perfect resizing to 1080, for demanding games) and gsync.
     
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    They should of AT LEAST added G-SYNC... All that GPU getting held back by a 60hz monitor don't sound right to me lol.

    We may not see 4K taking laptop monitors for a long time! Power draw is always a big deal and I am willing to bet a 4K display would do some nasty things overtime.

    All that power and heat.
     
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    4K does consume more power but only at about 8W, plus or minus.
    Sure, we won't feel it on a desktop system but it can make some difference on a notebook.
    Hopefully, the manufacturer did put this into consideration. :)
     
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    You may want to wait for a more open standard like adaptive sync as getting the screen validated for a panel that's not widely used is going to be expensive.
     
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    G-sync only needs a 75hz panel and eDP conector for notebooks, don't need the module... So it was stupid not to include it, there would be more expensive the laptop

    Msi things ...
     
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    Nvidia charge to validate the display.
     
  8. artichok

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    Msi have several problems for pay de charge in 4000 dolars laptop...

    It was a crap that I hope they resolve in an update, however powerful it may be, gsync is always welcome ...

    PD: Sorry for my english xD
     
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    It's not just about verify the display, it's about the screen manufacturer, the screen manufacturers just don't make a 18.4" panel that is G-Sync capable.

    If the product doesn't exist how can you get one?
     
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    Well, testing as soon as you get it and you might be surprised :) I run my monitor at 100hz stable.
     
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    Are you saying the stock display can be overclocked?
     
  12. GTVEVO

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    yes as stated many times.
     
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    Yes, any machine (such as the GT72 and GT80) where the Nvidia GPU is hooked straight into the display then it can be clocked.
     
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    This is one of the main advantages of not being bound by optimus, where the iGPU limits the refreshrate.

    also, maybe I am doing something wrong but light browsing and doing office work with both the dGPUs and iGPUs seem to give me very similar battery life, on the 3 hour mark. Though to be honest the iGPU does reach the 3 hour and nears the 4 hour mark more often than not.

    I am impressed by the battery life on this thing despite the components it packs.
     
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    It does have a decent sized pack :) Optimus does make less of a difference in beefy large machines.
     
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    I want that bears with dual 980

    Sent from my SM-G928F using Tapatalk
     
  17. Frankzro

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    What drive will the Main OS be installed on? I hope to god it won't be one of the 512GB PCie drives.

    I hope they install the OS on the 1TB drive/ 2.5 HDD because I plan on replacing that drive with the 2TB Samsung VNAND.

    Can anyone confirm the OS location?
     
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    I can almost guarantee it will be on the 2 m.2 PCie drives that will be in Raid 0 just like they did on their previous models.
     
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    That's not good... -_-

    How can I make the 2.5 the Main drive? 512s get sucked up so fast with updates and games. Lol although the cloning process would only talk like 2 seconds lol.

    Damnit... That means the restore section is on that 2.5 wow, I'm almost better off wiping out everything because I own my copy of 8.1 Pro... I really have no need for Windows 10 to be there.
     
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    If you don't install anything other than the OS and regular windows updates, you will use almost nothing of the SSDs. I only install the most commonly used programs like office and the like on my SSDs and after nearly a year, I only have 100GB used, while my 1TB drive I have filled it with 900GB of games and media hahhaha.

    The recovery partition should be on the same SSDs and you are asked to make a recovery system when you first start everything. You can choose to make the recovery system on the 2.5 inch disk.

    You are better off using the PCIe SSDs for the OS to have the max speed available :)
     
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    My recommendation would be to use 1 m.2 pcie drive for the OS and then raid the other two m.2 non pcie with 500gb for a 1tb total for games, then use the 2.5 with a 2tb for backup or overflow since its sata 3 now. Basically what I do today with 4 m.2 legacy slots and 1 x 2.5 sata.
     
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    So, as it stands there should be nothing on the 1TB that comes with the laptop... I guess no hassle there.

    Uhm. Little embarrassed here, for all the things I know about computers and this is in a 16+ year time span... Damnit I never got around to setting up Raid arrays ever, so I'm wondering if that should be easy after changes?
     
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    The 1tb will have a recovery partition but just clone your new disk or don't include it. You can always swap back the stock 1tb if you need too it takes all of 10 seconds. Also you will be prompted to create a recovery usb or disk set of you wish. So you have several options to cover your self.

    Creating a raid in the bios is very simple just pick, choose and create then away you go. If you know how raid works it's pretty self explanatory.

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    Anyone else get rumors that one MXM GTX 980 (990M) cost 1600 dollars?

    I find that hard to believe and if its true that kinda devalues the laptop because the most expensive part is a part that will die before every other part .

    There's not a lot of new info, and I am sceptical about it... Some sites say the card (one single card) is 16GB of VRAM lol!!

    To me, from what I could tell is that they are sold in pairs 8GBs a piece. Funny stuff when you look up "GTX 990MM" lol
     
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    It will be more expensive than the 980M, how much is hard to say. What the cost of the original does not stop is future cards or replacements with alternatives in the future.
     
  26. ryzeki

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    I actually agree. I haven't used my Titan's bluray drive at all, and my previous GT60 I only used it twice to copy the pictures of my wedding from the disc to the laptop. I think we can let go fo the optical media and take advantage of both the port and the space it frees.
     
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    It's very convenient to have a DVD/BD optical drive for me, as I use it for work burning disc's, and for media viewing.

    I buy BD/DVD, rent from Redbox and local shops now, and Blockbuster before that. It's a long established use for me.

    Blu-rays are still higher resolution than streaming, and don't count against download quota's on 4G when mobile. With 4k streaming, you will want the BD delivery offload from your network.

    The new thin optical devices don't take up that much room. It's enough to leave them off of thin / handheld devices.

    It would be weird to not have one in a 18" behemoth laptop like the GT80.

    And, carrying an external drive is just 1 more piece to bang around in the bag :)
     
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    I second this.

    I tried the external Blu-Ray and while I had it it worked great. Then came a time it could not fit in my back pack.

    Put it in my closet and forgot about for nearly 2 years then one day I wanted to use it and it didn't work anymore ... Fail.

    The drives I've had in my other laptops work great and I have a large amount of Blu-Ray movies to watch... Then there's still games that you can install via optical drive.

    They aren't useless yet :D
     
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    I'm guessing we get our Cars err, computers sometime next week. By the time Star Wars comes out I think which is the 18th. :)
     
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    Hahaha yeah, it is a bit concerning when you realize your laptop costs more than your car :D
     
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    Hey guys, since I've got nothing better to do with my time I decided too look at other sites selling the GT80S Titan-072 and I found some very INTERESTING pricing techniques!

    The top tier Vnand Samsung SSDs are being completely over priced and in some ways the items are labeled so odd that it makes no sense at all.

    One site is trying to get away with selling VNAND HDs (2TB models) for OVER 1 grand lol!!

    You can get them for 899.99 on Amazon -__- really...

    It's sad man, real sad. Some of these guys are really trying to take advantage of this laptops price point...
     
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    It's the scarcity of the GT80S SLI 980's prompting the scalpers, we should be happy they don't all come with 4 x 512GB M.2 drives + 2TB SSD, and a Solid Gold Notebook Cooler ;)

    I've seen stock GT80S SLI 980's up for "pre-order" starting at $6,000 at first, and now I see them listed for $8,000...who knows if any of those "fly-by-night" operations will ever see a GT80S, let alone ship it out.

    The legit pre-order price for the stock GT80S SLI-072 is $4599. And the sites with that price listed also have reasonable prices for the SSD's and other options.
     
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    Damn its almost Like I should resell it on EBay for the most insane price ever. Lol!

    By the way my build is officially complete, just ordered the 2TB Samsung VNAND... It's done. No more. I can finally rest, plus I scored two games from this entire deal, you get an Assassins Creed code with the SSD and you're supposed to get another AC code and a Rainbow Six code because of the vid cards that come with the laptop :OO

    Technically I should have 3 Assassins Creed codes.... Hrmm
     
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    There is a reason we are always clear with our options and upgrades, it's obvious when someone is trying to pull a fast one. It's a very short sighted trick to pull.
     
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    I was wondering... If I upgraded my SSDs on GenTechPC where do the old SSDs go? Back to me or do they keep it? o__o

    What about the stock ram too? :eek:
     
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    IMG_20151212_170410.jpg

    Oh yes... I know a little SSD that is going to be shoved into some laptop guts :) :cool: o_O ;)
     
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    Little lol, awesome purchase!

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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    Omg... the best 2.5" SSD on the market O_O
     
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    Yup, the best and most expensive one. :D
     
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    If you need more space get the most expensive one, which is the 3.84 TB SSD PM863 for a solid 2 grand. :D

    However it should be a tad slower than the 2 TB Evo, which is a very good choice, too.
     
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    As far as I know, re-sellers keep it because the prices of upgrade are considering the discount you get for giving them your original item. You can check this by customizing a laptop which comes with 2 or more slots for hard drives but only one actually installed by default. The prices you will see on the first slot will be lower then the other slots. The discount you get is usually less then the actual price of the item because they deduct their profit as well as cost for labor and warranty.
     
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    Ken told me, but its complicated :p.
     
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    Nothing is free, and you have to take into account the prices, discounts, time, labor and logistics involved that resellers put into the machines. Even more if you make custom mods, paste jobs etc.

    And usually all the parts you upgrade, they reduce the cost of the next upgrade.

    Is it cheaper to buy the items yourself? Sometimes. But the convenience and warranty of having it done for you costs :)
     
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    At the end of the day you should be looking at the total cost vs the parts you are getting and making sure you are happy.
     
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    Hi everyone.

    I am thinking of purchasing one of these laptops; however, I am concerned about thermal throttling. I've been trying to find out if this is an issue for this laptop, but I haven't been able to find any concrete info. Have any of you had an opportunity to test this laptop for thermal throttling or have any of you done any extensive bench marking? It is a lot of money to spend for a laptop if there is a lot of throttling going on. Any insight would be helpful.
     
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    Not aware of such issue because GT80S is the premium flagship product from MSI.
    Where have you heard/seen of the throttling issue?
     
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    I am assuming that two GTX 980s are going to generate a ton of heat. Other high-end laptops have certainly fallen victim to this issue, so I wanted to check around to see if anyone is having this issue.
     
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    Ah, I see, you were asking about GT80S with GTX 980 SLI.
    Based on the spec of GTX 980 which uses up to 165W, therefore your concern is valid.
    http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-980/specifications

    The machine comes with 330W AC adapter so there must be some kind of limit here.
     
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    You have confirmed the 980 MXM cards in the GT80S SLI 980 are 165w each?

    It's nice to see the Nvidia spec say 165w, but is the MXM card in the MSI GT80S that particular card?

    So many of the other reports we have received, say for Clevo are 200w, 180w, and others.

    It would be great if you could use your MSI contacts to get a definitive spec. :)
     
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    Not yet, we will check with MSI for details.
     
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