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    Be A God of War - The new MSI GT80S 6QF Titan SLI!

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by -=$tR|k3r=-, Oct 25, 2015.

  1. Frankzro

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    Jesus....

    http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=120542&vpn=GT80S 6QF-074US&manufacture=MSI

    Dude they are claiming it to be 6 grand for this laptop.

    Man... I still feel the pricing isn't justified.

    We could break down the pricing of the desktop equivalent and never hit 6 grand ever. Also if we built a desktop each separate part is covered under a warranty.

    With this laptop THE ENTIRE THING is under a 2 year warranty and as high as it is being posted PLUS Tax added an extended warranty pushes this thing closer to 7k.

    I'm still waiting for some official news on this thing because with that kind of price tag it won't withstand the test of time and money if it's to go heads up with desktops.
     
  2. Frankzro

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    Alright guys so the Model we are looking for ( If you live in US *could share the same model number with Canada*)

    Should look like this: GT80S-6QF-074US

    MSI GT80S 6QF-074US Titan SLI 18.4 Ci7-6920HQ 16G 512G+1TB GTX980 W10 Retail

    As far as pricing goes so far I found this site -
    http://www.memorydepot.com/detail/GT80S-6QF-074US-TITAN-SLI.html

    The price listed is :
    "Your price $4401.85 USD"

    This price looks way better!! I agree with the system costing and being worth under 5k (as-is no additional add-on)
     
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    It's a shame they opted for the 6920HQ. Maybe it is a measure to protect vs too high TDP usage by 6820HK.
     
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    Huh? The memory-depot says 16GB not 32GB. Based on CAD TO USD conversion you're paying the same thing we are. The $6000 USD price on NCIX isn't correct.

    6000 Canadian Dollar equals
    4517.73 US Dollar

    Subtract $100 for 16GB DDR4 2133 SO-DIMM,

    Calculates to around 4400 USD.

    That is overpriced for sure. Unfortunate. For Canadians, nothing beats the GT80 5700HQ/980M SLI in value. That is 2778.42 US Dollar for a 980M SLI system.
     
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  5. Frankzro

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    Hrmm the ram is insanely overpriced lol and it's not even ... well, High quality or anything.
     
  6. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    FINALLY...... what I have been waiting for! The gag-order has been lifted, and this will be coming to US resellers soon.....

    The MSI GT80 Titan SLI-072 ..... $4,599..... pre-order yours today, and Dominate as a God of War!

    Mine should arrive soon, so stay tuned for my initial thoughts and performance benchmarks.

    Can't wait to test those NVidia 980 desktop GPU's!

    :D :D :D
     
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    Best of luck, and you better become benchmark king while it lasts my friend :)
     
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    Envy.... but they are slightly crippled. Via overclocking they about match default desktop card speed.
     
  9. ryzeki

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    They are still, on stock, about 30% faster than a 980m with much more potential and more performance at higher res thanks to their full GDDR5 speed.
     
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    Do we know for sure these 980s in the MSI have full 7ghz GDDR5? The computer is using a single 330w ac adapter, something tells me they will be 5Ghz like the 980Ms.

    So far I only know of the Clevo 180W 980 and 200W 980s having full GDDR5 7Ghz speeds.
     
  11. Shekelstein

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    That is a complete rip-off if they don't give you 2x 512GB SSDs in the PCIe slots.

    Gotta love VAT tho, makes everything 20% more expensive.

    Came here to say this, sad though I'll have money to get the GT80S only in May/June next year. I kept on going on Xotic to see if they will add it in the list (for pricing purposes), saw they didn't and just waited until I found Gentech did it.

    The reason I'm buying this, aside from the fact that I'm going to change addresses the 4th time in 4 years in the autumn, I also have to travel a few times a year. Last time I used to travel, once every 2 weeks between cities I carried the CX61 I got now (approaching 3 years of age, had not issues except it needs a good cleaning at the keyboard), plus a 1TB external HDD, along with the charger and the mousepad+Logitech G400s, so that was some nice practice for the GT80S Titan I had. Lastly, I don't really want to change my laptop for the following 3 years because I'm skeptical of which way the laptop industry will go with all these Mac fanboys and increasingly large base of tablet/ultrabook user base. Already I got scared while going in the tech section of Carrefour that I found (it's one of the strongest and most varied here), without exaggeration, NO laptop which did not have a U processor. Out of 100+ laptops, the ~70 I looked at had Us. Compared to a year ago, U-processor laptops were rare. So, this laptop would suit me to get rid of the "laptops will die/get amazingly expensive" paranoia and the stress of having to look for another upgrade in 1 1/2 - 2 years.

    Along with MSI's upgrade plan, granted nothing critical fails inside (really, surprised my current CX61 had no technical issues, especially after lugging it around for a total of thousands of km), should last for at least 8-9 years, or until DX13 becomes the norm.
     
  12. ryzeki

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    Yeah we don't know for sure, you are right these might have reduced speeds. I was hoping it would be similar to the GT72 that has the additional power connector but its just not being used.
     
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    Pics with the extra power connector? It's the first time I hear about it.
     
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    The GT72S 980 desktop GPU has a power connector on the top right hand corner of the extended PCB, as mentioned it is not used.
     
  15. Frankzro

    Frankzro Notebook Consultant

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    My main question and concern is, why out of all the E-Seller laptop sites does only one site have the laptop listed?

    Something isn't right with that at all.

    Where you at Pat J. ? Please help us with this one :)
     
  16. Frankzro

    Frankzro Notebook Consultant

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    If you are going stock with NO upgrade add-Ons by from Memory Depot instead, I think it's cheaper. They are overpricing the 16GB RAM variant which makes no sense.
     
  17. ryzeki

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    What do you mean? GentechPC might be the first one to list or be found, but it is not the only seller as far as I know since I've seen it elsewhere too. Besides it is still in pre order, so maybe the rest of the sites and sellers are just updating it. We don't know when it will officially launch yet, at least I don't know haha :)
     
  18. Shekelstein

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    I'm aiming for the build posted in my signature, the 64GB Ram option is actually cheaper than on Newegg. Rest is pretty much on point in pricing on Gentech.
     
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  19. Frankzro

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    List these places sir, I'd like to keep my options open! :)

    Also what laptop are we talking about??? The one with Dual GTX 980s??? That one he posted doesn't have the US model number on it or the "S" ....getting confusing.
     
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    We have it listed :)
     
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    Now if we just knew the exact release date and if the 6820hk will ever be used with it. Sorry but 3.6ghz on 4 cores doesnt get me too excited at any price point.

    Sent from my LG-H901 using Tapatalk
     
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  22. GenTechPC

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    I don't see anything wrong with the listing, the specs and price are provided by MSI USA.
     
  23. Talon

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    3.6ghz will probably bottleneck SLI GTX 980 cards.
     
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    Four words.

    I live in California.

    Final Word... Taxes.

    I can't even make sense of me spending over 6000 dollars on a laptop because of taxes... There is no universe where any gaming laptop should be that much money ever. Thats just a few additional add-Ons like bigger hard-drives and better ram.

    I can afford it, but it doesn't make sense at all because the price to warranty doesn't help that price tag, then on top of things its an extra 300 dollars for the extra warranty and adds an extra year... How?? .. The price tag is nuts.

    We can all agree the price tag is nuts guys?

    (This is more to MSI and not Gentech)
     
  25. Kevin@GenTechPC

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    S = Skylake (6th gen)
    MSI USA's website hasn't posted this model yet but eventually they will sync with the global site.

    Model: GT80S 6QF(Titan SLI)-072US
    P/N: 9S7-181412-072
    Spec: MS-1814,MSI,ID1(BB)/BLACK-BLACK-BLACK-BLAC,UI,i7-6920HQ,2.9 GHz,8GB*4,1TB 7200RPM+256GB*2 M.2 SSD PC,18.4,Wide View FHD,Anti-Glare,BD Writer,GeForce GTX 980 SLI,GDDR5 8GB,802.11AC+BT 2X2,,,,8 Cell,13IN1,W10MH,W/POWER PACK,Color,LA,
     
  26. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Heheheheheheh......gee wiz, all this talk....talk about how expensive..... talk about how cost is not justified....... and talk, speculating the hardware will not measure-up. Hi-end SLI or X-Fired notebooks have always been expensive, big-boy toys, and a niche market. Those who have followed this market, know that these price levels are not extraordinary. You get what you pay for. Truth is, you gotta pay to play in this market, and if you are not a player, no need to be a hater..... but jealousy & envy do love to hate, don't they? I imagine those who can afford such a notebook, will have little to grumble and nit-pick over.

    Bottom Line: In the current market, the new GT80S w/ desktop GPU's will be the most bad-@$$ commercially produced notebook on the planet.....least for a short time.

    As to MSI's pricing, they have always been very competitive, providing solid bang-for-the-buck. Competition is a wonderful thing. If the pricing offends you, you always have the option of moving on to another brand..... that is, if (and when) another equally spec'ed notebook exist in the marketplace. LOL!

    As to availability..... very soon..... I'm thinking turkey left-overs will still be in the fridge. ;)

    Can't wait!

    :D
     
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    Lol man, 2 year warranty for something this expensive is a slap in the face. If built a desktop with that much money it would blow this thing away! Thats my point, so far...

    It's like I said earlier, building a computer each part has a warranty and a lot of parts alone have 1 - (possibly) 5 years of warranty.

    The price is justified for longevity purposes lol. This laptop is so new we don't even know.

    I would rather buy from XoticPC because they help a bit with taxes (a lot). As with my NP9370 I purchased before. Just saying I save nearly 500 dollars and I can get the 3 year warranty with the extras for cheaper.

    The Enthusist in me, however does not give a crap and would buy it for 6k with x2 512GB HDs and 32GBs of ram with out hesitation. I'm at war with myself right now.

    :confused: :eek: :oops:
     
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    I can't wait either, but it's uneasy thing to dump $5600 on a build like mine, all in one shot.

    Only other SLI laptop is Alienware 18, and after hearing that **** went on fire inside it, plus Alienware being pretty much a form of a Windows Macbook, there are no options, and I hate having no options. It's capitalism ffs.
     
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    The 18 isn't BGA and therefore isn't thin. It can hold 4.3ghz without throttling. AW doesn't make anything that has sli with BGA. .. yet.
     
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    Here's the total break down for mine.... It's a depressing price, but I did a bit of research on parts and the VNAND Samsung drives have 5 year Warranty (limited), Kingston is maybe 3-5 years (need to check on that)

    Laptop + x2 Extra Samsung 512GB VNAND drives, Kingston Ram 32GB (x4 sticks) and additonal Warranty /w Gentech + 500 Tax

    6386.00

    11,586 - ^
    = 5200 Dollars in Savings left
     
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    I really don't care about thickness, but for laptops graphics cards come first and CPUs second. I benchmarked my current laptop in Serious Sam 3, I could run the CPU-based performance at high (pretty damn good for a 3rd gen i7 quad core) but GPU restricts me at custom-low. I am pretty sure that the BGA'd processors coming with the GT80, unless the soldering dies in the process, can resist 6-7 years both in lifespan and in offering proper performance. By the way, processors in the A18 did experience throttling and it was specified quite a lot of times here on NotebookReview. I'm not sure if it happens with Skylake, but Haswell and Broadwell did.

    Will getting extra warranty be worth it though? I am kinda paranoid in buying a $5600 laptop, particularly because it's not just ANY laptop and have some issue I cannot fix by myself out of warranty (like Alienware 18 buyers saw their voltage regulators on fire 3 years after acquisition and 1 out of warranty); I wouldn't like to take chances but at the same time I'm aware that if I get it and nothing (hopefully) happens, I'm down $300 and Gods know if anything happens after. Most relevant example I can relate is a friend that has a MSI GT60 (iirc), 4 years old and still got no problem except a busted charger 3 years in.

    EDIT: For anyone representing resellers like GentechPC and XoticPC (mostly directed towards Gentech and others), please for the love of God specify what brand is the RAM and the HDDs. There is no way I can tell what brand is the 64GB option for the GT80S Titan, nor the 2TB HDD.
     
  32. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Geez....... all this about warranty, and avoiding paying State tax. Notebook manufacturer's are pretty standard with warranties, and you can avoid sales tax by purchasing from any of the resellers outside of your state. Plus, most also have 3rd party add-on warranties, and all resellers have non-disclosures lifted at the same time, so all can post new models equally..... it's just some are quicker to update their websites, than others. Be patient! I am sure you will see multiple reseller sites posting the new models, before the release date.

    I can see 'longevity' is important to you, but for some, 3 to 5 years is a longgggg time...... considering how rapidly the technology changes and advances. Heck, I get impatient with my notebooks as soon as the next round of technology arrives, generally only keeping notebooks 1 to 2 years..... then I sell them (while still fresh), to help finance the next round. Different strokes, for different folks, I guess.

    As to specifying hardware, that will be difficult until the new models release, and even then, hardware brands are ALWAYS subject to change due to supply and cost. In many cases the hardware also changes from country to country, SKU to SKU. Stay tuned though...... as soon as my unit arrives, I'll be posting a listing of the hardware specs.

    :)
     
  33. Frankzro

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    I can't avoid the taxes because no one else but GenTech has it listed to accept pre-orders.

    Plus they are 7 hours from me so shipping ground would take week or less lol...kinda of nice actually. Get it fast and not have to wait very long. Who knows right? :p

    So, yeah...

    Plus my Sager GFX cards died like 3 weeks ago... My dual 7970Ms died at the same time... I still get post and all that so every thing else works, gonna see if I can sell it to a computer shop or something. My poor NP9370, I loved that laptop, but can't see myself buying those vid cards again only to have them die from me gaming on them. 600+ dollars for GPUs you know may fail again.

    Actually just for the hell of it I tried one of my cards and its completely dead. The other one works half way, but it gives GFX errors/glitches while in BIOS. The other card is on its way out. I tired...
     
  34. -=$tR|k3r=-

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    Huh? If Gentech is only 7 hours away (time for a road-trip!), why would ground shipping take a week? I am on the east coast, and usually UPS ground shipping from Ken's only takes about 5 working days. Anyhow, as I pointed out, all of the resellers can do pre-orders...... I thinks it's more a matter of them updating their websites, and surely most will have this done soon, before the release date.

    I pre-ordered my pre-order long ago, so don't expect to have yours, before I have mine. :p

    :D
     
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    While I like to catch up with technology, I got some guaranteed ****, finance-wise, years coming up: move into a new country, start from the bottom, living expenses not that cheap... this will be the last major acquisition for at least 3 years which I can get the chance to make. I will unlikely be able to afford to "catch up" with technology. In fact, I really don't like being in the situation where building a PC by myself is a waste of money, because in the past I didn't stay for too long in a single place, unlikely will in the near future, plus all the work-related travel. I am not really keen on doing constant upgrades like I used to do, where you install new RAM and find out that PC is not POST-ing, learn BIOS sound code for several brands, issues with I/O... no longer got the patience for that, but will also never get to the point where I'll go Macbook-mode.
     
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    I been on here asking where to get this thing... Where were you when I needed help? ( Lawyers and the Commissary ain't gone pay for itself lol :p)
    No one came in with that kinda pull till you got here ha-ha.
     
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    I would dare to chime in with my two cents as I was nearly in the same boat as you are.
    For longevity, i think the best course is to wait for Pascal (due in Q2 2016). For your current needs, either live with your current laptop or buy a mediocre one which you can sell easily when Pascal launches.

    I was convinced that i needed a new laptop when 2015 started. But due some reasons i couldn't get it and I had to stick with my trusty G73JH. And here i am now, thinking it was a blessing in disguise. I started to play some older GREAT games that i had missed and postponed the the new games until ll i get the new laptop.

    PS. I woulike to give a shout out to @-=$tR|k3r=- for recommending the G73Jh 6 years ago.
     
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    I haven't followed on Pascal, and honestly I can't wait until they release laptops with Pascal inside, which would mean sometime in early fall 2016 (partly because where I live right now shipping is a bit more expensive, but I got no VAT/sales tax to pay) and then God knows how far pricing would jump then. IMO getting a laptop with Maxwell now, particularly since we're talking about GT80S Titan is pretty good and would not require an upgrade only when the chips after Pascal are released (2018-2019 maybe). Since I haven't followed on Pascal, what makes it so better than Maxwell that it's worth waiting for?
     
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    They 64GB RAM option is the Samsung DDR4 2133MHz SODIMM, the 2TB HDD is also Samsung (formerly Seagate) ST2000LM003.
     
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    I bought it... Cost me 6000.02...

    Screw it, YOLO.

    ADDED the Two VNAND 512GB Samsung Drives and went with the Kingston 32GB ram at the 2400 speed.

    Added the 3 year Warranty.

    Looked up the Warranties on Samsung and Kinston.

    Kingston = Lifetime Warranty for Memory

    Samsung VNAND = 5 Year Limited Warranty

    Still looking for the GTX 980 MXM warranty, which I've found nothing.

    Hopefully there are some Nvidia reps can shed some light on that? Maybe Ken?

    I'm not sure on the 1TB HD either. So far, it looks good as long as part protection which is what I wanted.
     
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    Heh, that's a lot of money, congrats on your purchase and I hope you get the best out of it :)

    I am not sure there is a separate GTX 980 mxm warranty though. Nvidia needs to get their act together with their drivers first :p
     
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    The 980 cards are considered part of the machine so relies on the warranty of that.
     
  43. GenTechPC

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    nVidia doesn't offer direct warranty to end-users for their GPUs. This is the same on the desktop video card that if you buy a GTX980 from eVGA you will have to go through eVGA for warranty service not nVidia. nVdia only does driver support.

    For laptops, it's like a package deal so the warranty of the MXM card are bind with laptop warranty from it's manufacturer. Asus warranty their laptop for 1 year so the warranty is one year for the entire laptop. MSI is two year so the video has 2 year warranty and that includes everything that comes with the laptop.

    Since you paid 3 year warranty for GenTech then we will pay for any service cost for you after MSi 2 year warranty expired.

    For Samsung SSDs you do get 5 year warranty from Samsung, so after your GenTech warranty expired you can still go throught Samsung for replacement within 5 years and same goes to the Kingston which offers life-time warranty.
     
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    Zero989 Notebook Virtuoso

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    Congrats Frank. Exciting.
     
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    ssj92 Neutron Star

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    Any idea when you'll be receiving this beast. :D
     
  46. Frankzro

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    Some time next month.

    I'll also be removing the 2.5 1TB HD and adding another Samsung VNAND SSD

    " Samsung SSD 850 Pro 2.5 inch"

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00L...colid=OMR4FOO2XMNA&coliid=I147LPA8JVV3J7&vs=1

    I'm trying to go 100% solid state this time around. Looking for max speed and load times.

    This may also help with heat reduction and power consumption. (May)

    Hopefully I can clone the 1TB drive and this will not effect how the RAID is setup since I've never actually setup or used any sort of RAID config.
     
  47. Zero989

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    SSDs in RAID won't produce any noticeable change.
     
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    Frankzro Notebook Consultant

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    I see, so its pointless ha-ha (kind of).
    The laptop actually comes with the drives in a Raid Array.
     
  49. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Congratz Frankzro! Welcome to the Party!

    :D
     
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    No g-sync, No party :(
     
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