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    570m Overclock

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by anurag1910, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. imglidinhere

    imglidinhere Notebook Deity

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    Yeah over at Overclock.net we've deduced that the ASIC Quality directly correlates to how well a GPU can overclock. The higher % the better.

    So seeing that your GPU Quality is 92.6%, I can assume that a GPU of equal quality would overclock just as well or slightly less. :D

    My 460M rates in at 74%. :(
     
  2. Sammyc51

    Sammyc51 Notebook Geek

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    Hey there!

    I'm a MSI GT780DX user with an additional Crucial m4 128gb SSD.

    I've been looking on this thread when I heard that when you "overclock" your GPU, there may be an increase of fps in various of games.

    However, I have NO competence in computers. I have neither any idea what Core, Memory and Shader clock does.

    I've a cooling pad under my GT780DX and ingame my temperatures (TERA MMROPG) are with ORIGINAL FACTORY CLOCKING;

    Without max speed fan - 75~*C
    With Max speed fan -70~*C

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    This is without P1.

    So....I'd LOVE getting any FPS increase in MMORPGs and Battlefield 3 for an example. But like I mentioned above, I've no idea what to do with "TechPowerUp GPU-Z" and "MSI Afterburner" programs.

    Is there a guide for retards out there to like...overclock without any experience before? Or would you not recommend it?

    Thanks.
     
  3. Sammyc51

    Sammyc51 Notebook Geek

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    I uh...."clocked" from default to;

    Afterburner:
    Core: 690
    Memory: 1530/765
    Shader: 1380

    but the GPU-Z program shows me;

    [​IMG]

    Is it legit? Or is something wrong?
     
  4. Tim4

    Tim4 Alchemist

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    You need to acivate TDE(P1) before apply any overclock. Otherwise you will overclock only memory of your GPU.
     
  5. Sammyc51

    Sammyc51 Notebook Geek

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    Aha! Works now thanks :p

    let's see how this works out >_<

    Edit:

    That's so cool! 2-3 fps increase in TERA :p

    Edit2:

    What is the decent "max" temperature you shouldn't cross when overclocking? And should you keep overclocking until you reach a good temperature?
     
  6. imglidinhere

    imglidinhere Notebook Deity

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    Max temperature for a mobile GPU and CPU are generally around 105*C on average. So going above 95*C is the point you don't want to go beyond. However, if you can keep your GPU around 75-85*C then you should be good to go. :D
     
  7. Sammyc51

    Sammyc51 Notebook Geek

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    Ah cool. I'm doing 700/1400/1700 atm around 67-72*C without max speed on fans. Time to go up then.

    By how many digits is it recommended that I increase each time?
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well you will notice that there are jumps built into the clocking system. You can't actually set it Mhz by Mhz if you read the real clock.
     
  9. biglipps66

    biglipps66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    For the life of me with the barebones 16f2 and the svet tools I cant seem to get this p1 button .9v OC thing figured out.

    It looks like I have the flash for p1 mode set to .9v correctly but I cant figure out the button even after installing system control manager. I hit the button and it maps to nothing at the moment.. hmm
     
  10. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You can access P0 by starting Nvidia inspector.
     
  11. biglipps66

    biglipps66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Im assuming the P1 Turbo is ONLY FOR RETAIL then correct?

    Ive managed to get my p0 state to my .9v OC settings now actually.. was just curious about the p1 button though but all good.

    Stable at .9v ic diamond paste
    825gpu/1650shader/1750mem
    3dmark p3853 not too bad 69c highest ftw

    Thats the most I was able to get
     
  12. mitsuhide

    mitsuhide Notebook Consultant

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    MSI-GX660

    I7-920XM @ 3.5GHZ
    GTX570M @ 840MHZ / 914MHZ ,0.9v

    3DV P15400+
    3D11 P4200+

    I'm pretty sure the OCed 570M will outperform an OCed 6970M

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  13. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    That is an impressive clock/score. tomorrow i aim to beat it :D
     
  14. biglipps66

    biglipps66 Notebook Enthusiast

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    The benchmarks are nice.. I had to decrease a bit to get BF3 to play stable though.. Meh..
     
  15. pau1ow

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    Still low 570M Vantage score due to the low bandwith...dont know how it reflects in gaming
     
  16. xizzu

    xizzu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Wow thats some nice oc, impressive!

    Btw guys is there a way to force the gpu to run @ max clocks all the time?
     
  17. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes, choose maximum performance in the nvidia control panel rather than adaptive.

    Of course it will still clock down on battery so your battery wont explode.
     
  18. Sammyc51

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    I've done Furmark 1920x1080 no AA with;

    700 / 1400 / 1700

    Core / Shader / Memory

    with Turbo Fan on;

    Got min fps 14, max 22, avg: 18

    I'm doing about 86*C~

    is that fine? Have had about 67-75 in BF3 with 1920x1080 and so on.
     
  19. xizzu

    xizzu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Awesome, Thanks Meaker.
     
  20. Flapo

    Flapo Notebook Consultant

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    yep, ur good.
     
  21. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    So, let me see if I understood things correctly.
    1. in order to be able to overclock my 570m above 750/1500/1950 with enough stability I have to raise the voltage.
    2. in order to raise the voltage I have to change the vbios
    3. the only way to change the vbios is to use svet's vbios tuner.

    Correct me if I'm wrong please.
     
  22. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    3. There is nibitor, not sure if the free version supports the 570m yet.
     
  23. Flapo

    Flapo Notebook Consultant

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    till now yes. in the future there will be other tools.
     
  24. He1p

    He1p Notebook Evangelist

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    how did you guys oc over 740 ?

    I oced my 580 at 745 and it crash
     
  25. pau1ow

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    He1p,

    It depends on the GPU, but @ stock voltage 740mhz is perfectly fine.
    Use the overvolted vbios to increase the voltage and so the overclocking capability to reach over 800mhz.
     
  26. Sammyc51

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    I don't see any differences between 700 clocking and 740 :(

    Should I? :p
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

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    Depends on the game and settings, but at best it will be a 5.4% increase.
     
  28. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    you should test it this way:
    1. run the thingy for fps in game display that comes with afterburner
    2. run the game and keep the camera still (unplug the mouse so it won't move by mistake)
    3. let the fps stabilize, memorize the maxim and min in a 5 seconds time frame
    4. alt + tab, overclock to 740, apply, alt + tab again in the game
    5. compare the max and min in a 5 seconds time frame

    This way I'm able to spot even a 10 mhz increase. To do that you should stop the camera to a wall where the differences between min and max fps can be at minimum, or to something that's not "dynamic".
     
  29. Meaker@Sager

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    Hmz but after all that you are trying to find a small increase and looking at a wall is not really representative of gameplay.

    Unless you are looking at a 10% increase/decrease in performance its usually not worth it.
     
  30. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    Of course it is not. I guess he asked that in order to find out if something is "wrong" with his gpu or overclocking software etc.
     
  31. He1p

    He1p Notebook Evangelist

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    how do you enable the in game display ? afterburner.
     
  32. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    afterburner>settings>monitoring>active hardware monitoring graphs>framerate and check "show in on-screen display" (if it's not checked already).
     
  33. He1p

    He1p Notebook Evangelist

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    how to make the text larger ?
     
  34. Sxcerino

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    Is there any gaming fps improvements from ocing the memory clock? No right..?
     
  35. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    crysis 2, hi res textures, dx11

    CORE - 575, SHADER - 1150, MEMORY - 1500 Mhz - 38,4 fps
    CORE - 575, SHADER - 1150, MEMORY - 1950 Mhz - 40,4 fps

    CORE - 750, SHADER - 1500, MEMORY - 1500 Mhz - 50,2 fps
    CORE - 750, SHADER - 1500, MEMORY - 1950 Mhz - 57,1 fps
     
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  36. Sxcerino

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    damn, any idea what the scale/ratio optimally should be?
     
  37. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    memory/core=2,6
     
  38. Sxcerino

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    what temps are you getting in occt with 750/1500/1950? mine hit 90C after 4min 30

    .85v
     
  39. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    81c but i'm with 0.8 (stock paste)
    I don't understand how some can use the 570m safely with 0,92. ic diamond can only do so much.
     
  40. Sxcerino

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    well damn

    nvidia inspector auto sets my voltage to 0.85 every time i try to oc now

    lol..
     
  41. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    ah lol, now i see that this happens to my card too. didn't know that. so, why the temp dif. then?
     
  42. Sxcerino

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    not sure, i even cleaned up stock paste and reapplied some arctic mx-4

    the stock paste was a mess...

    I got better temps after reapplying mx-4, but still not as good as yours i guess

    what's your ASIC quality %? mine is 82.6

    how long did you run occt for, does the temperature stabilize at 81C?
     
  43. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    sorry i didn't see you ask me about my occt temps, i assumed you talked about crysis 2 temps.
    here are my occt temps: http://i41.tinypic.com/1zbb7o1.png
    turbo fan off
    asic 82,9
     
  44. Sxcerino

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    ugh, dunno why my temps are so high.

    if you check your settings and make it auto stop at a higher temp, say 95, see if you ever reach it. mine actually does after a bit

    dunno if i should reseat my heatsinks again ugh
     
  45. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    Mine stabilizes at 83 on default clock. It seems whenever I raise the shader/core clock higher, the temperature increases linearly.

    When I opened my laptop, I did note that the heatsink surface was very poor. It had small chips/holes which was unfortunate.

    I'm going to try to reapply the paste again, might have to just play with default clocks (against everything I stand for :D ) instead of oc.

    Gonna go pick up a laptop cooler, heard the CM notepal u2 was pretty good.
     
  47. easegantini

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    So I upgraded Nvidia driver today... 15.8% better!!!

    Both results with GTX 570M 575/750mhz @ 725/800mhz

    Nvidia 268.90 - P3043

    [​IMG]

    Nvidia 296.10 - P3524

    [​IMG]

    Best Regards.
     
  48. imglidinhere

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    Yeah, the drivers do that for ya. :D Also, see if you can clock your memory higher too. As far as I've seen the memory bandwidth matters the most when it comes to the GTX 560M and GTX 570M.

    And use Nvidia Inspector for overclocking. ;)
     
  49. easegantini

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    I managed 750/850mhz with "stock" driver. I'll try improve my scores later. Thanks.
     
  50. He1p

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    Why do I crash beyond 745
     
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