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    570m Overclock

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by anurag1910, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    The 580M has all shaders active so has more active transistors and typically do not clock as high. Also every chip will clock differently. People achieving much higher clocks are likely using a modified bios with higher voltages.
     
  2. leon9206

    leon9206 Notebook Enthusiast

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    How does an overclocked gtx570m compared with a overclocked 6970m?
     
  3. pau1ow

    pau1ow Notebook Deity

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    They perform pretty much on par :) Maybe small advantage for the 570m while overvolted and overclocked.
     
  4. FastRedPonyCar

    FastRedPonyCar Notebook Guru

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    Is an OC'd 580 that much faster than an OC'd 570?

    I'd eventually like to upgrade the 570.
     
  5. pau1ow

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    Not really worthy in my opinion. I advise you to grab the overvolted vbios 0.9v for your 570m, flash it, and push your card at 800mhz core/1900 memory and it will be quite a beast :)
     
  6. XXVII

    XXVII Notebook Geek

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    I haven't done any serious overclocking in at least 7-8 years, and never in my life on a notebook. Just some quick questions if you folks don't mind...

    1.) Can you achieve an overclock to stock levels 580m without flashing your vBios or overvolting the card? As in, is it possible at all in just using a program and software?

    2.) Do you think an overclock would be beneficial for games like Diablo III or Guild Wars 2? I know that higher clocks are always helpful for more FPS, but I'm just wondering if it would even be necessary for those two games. Those are the games I'm looking forward to most.

    3.) As I stated earlier, I'm not a stranger to BIOS and overclocking, but that was in the distant past. Would the learning curve be steep for me, if I even just wanted to fiddle around and shoot for a mild overclock on the 570m GPU?

    Thanks in advance, great thread.
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    1) Yes, easy, though due to less bandwidth and shaders performance will not be the same at the same clocks.

    2) Why not get the card and see if you need more FPS?

    3) No hardware mods required so its pretty simple if you follow step by step.
     
  8. XXVII

    XXVII Notebook Geek

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    Thanks, Meaker. That sounds reassuring.

    And yeah, I was just going to play it by ear on a game-to-game basis on #2.
     
  9. stagfury

    stagfury Notebook Enthusiast

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    I must say, svet's vbios tool is awesome :D
    the ability to use stock clock +stock voltage on p0 and 800 core 1900memory 0.9v on p1 is just brilliant, for non demanding game I can just use p0 to protect my card :D
    I must say though, are there truly that many games that require that amount of OC? I know going from 675/1750 to 800/1900 allowed me to play metro 2033 on very high, but metro 2033 is as hardware demanding as it gets (maybe not crysis 1 level, but close enough :p)
    I tried to stress test it in MSI kombuster, after using preset:extreme, I get around 76c~78c, is that safe?
     
  10. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    How come everyone else seem to have above 20 GPixel/s? I thought every 1,5GB 570M is the same. Now, it doesn't really matter to me since I can do nothing about it, but in the future will be helpful.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. pau1ow

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    900 / 1000 w o w where's Meaker :p ?

    Is it a stable gaming overclocking btw?
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Lol, means nothing until a benchmark, I could set silly clocks and display it in GPU-z.

    However I have applied the GPU power mod, so lets see if that helps.
     
  13. pau1ow

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    Really have you ? You think it might make a difference ? To be honest I don't think so... Throttlestop is good enough but might consider it later if you say that makes a difference :)
     
  14. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    gpu settings: 0.9v, core / mem - 810 / 1950 (at 830 i get artifacts)
    battlefield 3 settings: everything on ultra (antialiasing off)
    =>
    45 fps average (cpu - i5-2430m)
    90 temp average (91 max) (stock paste)

    A three hour run at this sustained temp seems dangerous to me. What do you think? Should i lower the clocks? Should i lower the voltage? Will i damage the gpu if i keep playing at these temps?
    And, considering i can go as high as 827 / 1990 (3-7 fps improvement - 95 temp) what is my best option for lowering the temperature? I can't change the paste because in europe that would void the warranty. A very expensive cooler pad?
     
  15. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Shouldn't void your warranty as long as you're careful..

    Also: we have a dude using a 670M in his M17x R3 over in the Alienware forum.
     
  16. quertiy

    quertiy Notebook Guru

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    It does. Msi told me so. If I open it I loose it.
     
  17. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    I opened my MSI up, replaced the GPU, CPU, re-pasted etc, put old parts back in for the RMA, no problems & no questions asked.
     
  18. Keith

    Keith Notebook Deity

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    It's a bug in GPU-Z. If you try version 0.5.6, it will show the correct reading.
     
  19. azara.david

    azara.david Notebook Enthusiast

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    Question?
    I apologize if this is in the wrong thread but I just ordered the MSI gt683 with the gtx570m. It should arrive sometime this week. I wanted the gtx580m but couldnt swing the 400 dollar price difference. I ordered from gentechpc.com I went to there website and noticed they have the gtx675m available in the sager np9150 laptop. Too my surprise the price difference was only 100 dollars. From what I have read it is basically a rebadged gtx580m. If so I would definitely want to return my laptop and get that set up. What does everyone think? Would that be worth it? Is it that cheap for a reason? Is something wrong with the new gtx675m making it that price? Also has anyone ever ordered from gentechpc? I am wondering if exchanging is even an option. I can swing the $100 price difference as long as I know it is worth it. I love playing battlefield 3 and crysis 2 so I would love to play these at the highest settings. I just sold my m14x so I just want to make sure the purchase I made on the gt683 was the right move. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much
     
  20. mtrein

    mtrein Notebook Consultant

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    You can shoot Ken an email, I think he'd do it for you... But since this is an upgrade, you would have to pay for shipping both ways... And this only IF he decides to do it.
     
  21. azara.david

    azara.david Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks so much! I did heavily overclock the gtx555m in my alienware m14x so maybe I will stick with the laptop thats on the way. I feel the gtx570m should suffice especially with the results I have seen on these forums! As long as I can play those games in high settings with AA off of course I will be happy. Also can anyone tell me how to change my status from newbie to notebook enthusiast or are things required. Just kinda bugs me. lol I am new to the forum but not pc's. If rep pluses are available I understand. Thanks mtrein!
     
  22. drunknfoo

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    Picked up the gt683-dxr a few weeks ago, finally got around to lapping the heatsinks and applied a bit of mx4 and replacing one of the drives with the intel 520 120gb.

    I've noticed that most people only posted their temp findings based on games, but has anyone actually ran their 800+ mhz using a 10-15min furmark burn in? (I'd imagine those posting 91-93C in games would probably hit closer to 97C in furmark)

    I'm slowly upping my clocks and checking for artifacts now..

    Currently done testing 700/838/1400 (resolution's from a 24' lcd)
    [​IMG]
     
  23. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Who cares what it reaches in an artificial situation that the card will never be in?
     
  24. drunknfoo

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    True in normal gaming and everyday use, temps will never get this high. Was just curious as to what others are pushing and what limited them, i.e artifacts due to temp, voltage / bus.

    The old school mentality of mine (even though time consuming) is to stress the core to its limits and set the clocks accordingly without artifacts.

    It also helps determine if you need to re-apply the TIM to get better temps.
     
  25. stadler5

    stadler5 Notebook Guru

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    have no program for my VBIOS zubearbeiten GTX570m would like more clock flashing 750-1550-1150 me would be enough.

    They could change me and upload it as a rom. Thank you
     
  26. ibro911

    ibro911 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I overclocked my GPU to clocks 750,1500 and 1800 with MSI Afterburner and games run very impressively fine. My only problem is, I'm getting CPU core temps at about 90-96 degrees celcius with the fan on (The GPU still runs fine and barely goes past 60-something degrees). Just want to know if this is normal and how safe this is. Do I have to reduce the clocks? I also read a few things about people tweaking with their voltages and setting it to 0.90v. Don't know what exactly that is, unfortunately. How does that help?
     
  27. Meaker@Sager

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    The higher the voltage the higher the overclock you will reach (on the core clock) but also the hotter the chip gets. Eventually (if you had unlimited voltage control) the chip would hit thermal barriers and the overclock would start going down (or the voltage would damage the chip).

    However the mobile chip even at 0.9v is massively undervolted compared to its desktop brothers so no chance of damage due to voltage.

    What program are you using to check temps as some get it 10C off (too high). Also you can edit the fan tables using the fan control program found in the MSI forums (dont have the link on me just now).

    Also by overclocking the GPU more the fan will be more aggressive anyway and likely lower CPU temps.
     
  28. cpmyers

    cpmyers Newbie

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    I just joined the Forum today.

    Here is my current setting for my 570M.

    Thanks to all the great information I have found here I am running the following settings on my 570M: 700/1400/1800.

    The maximum temperature for the GPU is 72 degrees playing a variety of games. I am on the stock paste and don't see any reason at the moment to change.

    I am very pleased with the performance of this GPU and would recommend these settings as a very safe and stable OC.

    The Max I have pushed the GPU without increasing Voltage has been 740/1480/1900. This was also completely stable and the temperatures were about the same. I backed off to the current OC @ 700 just for peace of mind. I think there is a lot more headroom like some of the others have been posting here but I do not want to damage anything looking for another 5 FPS or so when I am already V-synched on most games at 60 FPS anyway.

    When I play a game like Left 4 Dead 2 at 1920x1080 with max details and a decent level of AA and AF it is overkill to have FPS so high without V-Synch because it only seems to heat the GPU up more without improving anything that I can see or feel. When I play with V-Synch on my temps are even cooler at around 65/67 degrees.

    P.S.: Has anyone tried the new Verde drivers 301.42??? I have been reading and hearing that they are causing games to slow down; for example Diablo 3. Does anyone have any experience with these new drivers?
     
  29. yatsu

    yatsu Newbie

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    Hey guys!

    I've finally decided OCing towoards the best I could get from my GT780DX-277US. Currently I'm only using MSi AB for OCing, and I'm wondering, if you'd have any idea, if I should get Svet's tuner for better results. I mean my current clock speeds are 680/1750 and they won't go a single MHz above that w/o getting me some nice screen flashes/artifacts. What I mean here is, if I'd be able to get something like 800/1800, I'd gladly "donate" 15 Euro for that, but if my gear won't go above 720/1750 that fixed "donation" (called a price all over the world) is extremely ridiculous. Thanks a lot in advance for your opinions! Screens below:
    P.S.
    Temp won't go above 75C while playing D3 @ 1080p/Max

    3DMark Vantage - Extreme X5533
    http://puu.sh/Dgxe

    3DMark Vantage - Performance P10540
    http://puu.sh/Dh1n

    My highest stable .85V clock speeds:
    http://puu.sh/Dh7m
     
  30. extremelaptop

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    at stock mine only shows up as 8.1

    Here's a screen of my stock GTX 570M Specs:

    [​IMG]

    Update: I notice the difference by comparing my screenshot and your screenshot. It looks like yours is significantly overclocked. My MSI Afterburner won't even let me overclock that high.


     
  31. Zordrat

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    i have the GTX 570M Graphics card, and using Svet's vtuner, i increased the voltage to 0.9v. After doing that I can OC the to 825/1700 @ 70ish degrees C and Stable. If i go above 825/1700, i start to see artifacts. I tested the OC in Crysis 2. I let it run at 825/1700 for a couple hours and it never crashed. Seems like a sweet spot.

    Also, what is nice about svet vtuner is that you can adjust the voltage, gpu and memory for just when you have MSI's turbo fuction on. This is nice because you no longer have to install additional software to change the Overclock settings. Also, the memory only overclocks with the turbo function on. However, this is not the case If you just use Nvidia Performance without modifying the firmware, as the memory clock speed will stay at the custom speed regardless of whether or not the turbo function is enabled.
     
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    aazforum Newbie

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    hello
    i want overclock my msu gt780dx gtx570m
    ealy i do it
    but now my overclock program cant change default settings
    plz help me

    msi gt780dx with gtx570m
    w7 x64
    videodriver 285.62
    i try use
    msi afterburner 2.2.3
    RivaTuner
    Imageshack - msiafterburner223.jpg

    can u take link on version driver and program for tweak?
    or any idea?

    p.s sry for my bad english
     
  33. Tim4

    Tim4 Alchemist

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    Press P1(turbo) button first and try to overclock. That should do for you.
     
  34. alkado

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    aazforum,
    чел все очень просто либо морочься с Turbo кнопкой и потом разгоняй,
    либо с помощью тулзы nvidiaInspector разлочь турбо вообще.
    В наших MSI буках максимальный PState 0 залочен...
    при нажатии кнопки турбо он как раз и включается.
    Разгонные тулзы правят частоты только в Pstate 0

    И того решение:
    nvidiaInspector.exe -setPStateLimit:0,0
    потом гони.

    ели нужно все вернуть в обратку:
    nvidiaInspector.exe -setPStateLimit:0,1

    Удачи Собрат =)

    To english readers:
    If you dont want installing MSI software for turbo buttons,
    simply use nvidiaInspector to unlock max PState (0) for you card,
    its can be easy done by: nvidiaInspector.exe -setPStateLimit:0,0

    if you want revert to previos lock state (max PState 1):
    nvidiaInspector.exe -setPStateLimit:0,1

    Of course, after reboot you need repeat unlocking step
     
  35. haniunited

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    Thank you, good information.
     
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