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    -->*OFFICIAL: MSI GT725 Owner's Lounge*<--

    Discussion in 'MSI' started by faisalhero, Feb 4, 2009.

  1. Acer5005Guy

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    Says Generic PnP Monitor ATM... Updating
     
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    I completely avioded Vista, just like I avoided Windows ME. Windows 7 is gonna be a huge improvement. I have installed builds 7000 and 7022. I think build 7000 runs the smoothest so far.
     
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    If you go into System -> Device Manager -> Monitors -> *Monitor Listed* -> Properties -> Details

    It will usually have a PnP string that identifies the model and make of the actual panel used usually like this:

    DISPLAY\ *Panel Identification Code*\Control String
     
  4. Acer5005Guy

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    Hardware Ids:
    MONITOR\SEC3448

    Matching device Id:
    *pnp09ff
     
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    1st Rating. Device Manager shows 1 unknown device and an unknown SM Bus Controller. Don't know if these are affecting the Memory Rating or not. Gonna DL some drivers from MSI and see if I can get them cleared up.
    Allready missing my slot loading DVD drive...

    Processor 6.0
    Memory 5.5
    Graphics 7.9
    Gaming graphics 6.3
    Primary hard disk 6.6
     

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  6. electrosoft

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    Samsung Panel.
     
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    Ok. Windows 7 found the problem and fix while I was uploading a video with the Acer. They were both Intel problems. #1 was the Intel chipset drivers. Windows 7 provided me with a link to download a file from Intel. I extracted and installed it and the SM Bus controller was fixed. #2 was the IR controller. Windows 7 also found the problem, notified me of the solution, provided me with a download link(also Intel), I extracted and installed and now everything in the DM is all good. I re-rated windows but still got the same scores. Going to download the catalyst drivers and install them now.

    So far the laptop is fantastic, but I allready have a couple of gripes:
    I am having alot of trouble adjusting to the "truncated" keys. The right shift key, period key and slash keys are becomming irritating. This is probably due to the fact that I have been using the same laptop for so long and am having trouble adjusting to the new key size, but maybe they are just too small. I agree with a previous post stating that the location of the power button could have been moved easily to allow for full sized keys on the right hand side of the keyboard. I wish they would have lined the keyboard surround with black so that the surround attachments would have been less obvious. I would like to have a slot loading drive. Thats the only things I see "wrong" so far. This laptop is such an improvement for me I am just beside myself. Gonna install Acad 2009 and play around for a bit.

    BTW 1st post in Win7 on the GT725 :D
     
  8. ichime

    ichime Notebook Elder

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    Agreed. I'm typing this from an MSI 1722 and I have to use two fingers to type now because some of the keys are too small and I accidently hit the wrong key sometimes.
     
  9. Acer5005Guy

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    I wonder if 3dmark will run properly on Windows 7?
     
  10. notyou

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    It does.
    10 char
     
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    You've got a ku klux klan speech in the background of your startup video. There is some pretty nasty language and racism clearly audible.

    Im sure it's a coincidence (something you were watching on TV?) but you should remove it anyway. It is a little weird and unsettling to hear that in the background of a laptop video.
     
  13. Acer5005Guy

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    Lol... History channel. I'll kill it.
     
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    thank you. samsung.. hmmm have not seen many 17" sammies i liked hope this one is different
     
  15. ChinNoobonic

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    @Acer5005Guy
    I just watched the overview vid and i like the activity lights on the 725. wish they came like that on the 627. congrats with the purchase.
     
  16. sean53180

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    Im due to get my GT725 in a few days and ive read some people were using Windows XP, but I havent found any drivers for XP. Can someone post a link to the XP drivers? Also, anyone know where to buy keyboard covers for this laptop?

    Thanx
     
  17. pkim1230

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    yes, i would like xp drivers as well!
     
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    You must have missed my Oops post and picture. I installed 32bit on accident. Gonna play with the 32bit for a while then install 64bit to see if I can notice a difference.
     
  20. terminus123

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    Can the MSI GT725 pay these games at max settings (at 1680x1050-1920x1080) with a smooth fps?
    -The Witcher Enhanced
    -Dawn of War 2
    -Fallout 3
    -Far Cry 2
    -Diablo 3
    -Starcraft 2
     
  21. Acer5005Guy

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    9544 3DMarks Windows 7 32-bit build 7000
    9473 3DMarks Windows 7 64-bit build 7000
    http://service.futuremark.com/home.action;jsessionid=B51ACB11E9F2529C329C484195080D1D

    Surprising results. I thought the 64-bit OS would have produced a higher score than the 32-bit. The new windows rating is 5.9, higher as expected:
    Processor 6.1
    Memory 5.9
    Graphics 7.9
    Gaming graphics 6.3
    Primary hard disk 6.7

    The 3DMark06 program was automatically installed into the Program Files (x86) directory. This leads me to believe that the software is being emulated in the 64-bit OS. This could be cause for the lower score.

    Turbo Button is working. MSI's site says 32-bit but it is working in W7 64-bit
    http://service.futuremark.com/home.action;jsessionid=E0DFB963B2AC86F24A632F868D7D357E
    9872 3DMarks Turbo on 64-bit W7

    I may install W7 build 7022 32-bit to see if there is any difference between builds.
     
  22. fallingcat

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    my god ... since when is diablo 3 available ???!!!

    :eek:

    i want one too ... !!!

    :D
     
  23. fallingcat

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    sir,

    what driver did they used to get the 725 gpu benchmarks to hit them 10,000 mark ???

    :confused:
     
  24. Redlance

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    so acer5005guy whats your overall impression? good buy? great buy? awesome buy?
     
  25. Redlance

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    diablo 3???
    starcraft 2???

    Holey timewarp batman!
     
  26. faisalhero

    faisalhero Notebook Evangelist

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    finaly another gt725 now i can put mine to the real test could you plz run some vantage bmark so i can compare them to mine cong on your buy and enjoy.
     
  27. cutterjohn

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    I'm scheduled for Wednesday, March 4th delivery...

    As to 32bit to 64bit upgrade, things are looking a little grimmer with some additional quick looking this morning. It would appear that the 32 -> 64 bit upgrade by getting a 64b install disk from M$ ONLY applies to retail copies as M$ apparently has almost absolutely nothing to do with OEM copies. This apparently means that the only way to get 64b would be to buy an OEM copy from MSI somehow, which I don't believe that they support, or suck it up and go out and buy another copy retail or OEM from somewhere. (Although I've also read before that OEM is not as safe a deal as it used to be as many OEM copies are tied to specific vendor hardware configurations and will ONLY install on those configs...)
     
  28. faisalhero

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    if one of ur mate got 64 bit just barrow his disc and use ur 32 bit key it will work fine and its 100% legel
     
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    Acer5005Guy, what were your original vista WEI scores?
     
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    I plan to buy either GT725 or W90Vp (Asus), but non of them are going to be sold in here, wonder why the distributors don't sell it here...
     
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    Wow! We get screwed in the US by the lousy 1y non-global MSI US warranty...

    [EDIT]
    US versions do NOT get the mouse either. Just the backpack...

    seems like the biggest part of the review is his dislike of the styling, which I agree with, but...
    [/EDIT]
     
  33. kyp275

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    but we do get the option of the 1920x1200 screen :)
     
  34. Fordx4

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    Just buy from newegg and you'll be fine.
     
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    This popped out on that review to me, "At the notebook's native resolution of 1,680x1,050, it performs a mighty 106 per cent quicker than the GeForce 9600M GT-powered Zepto Nox A15."

    For those who are loving/wanting the 1722/GX720 (9600gt based) form factor, the GT725 is CHEAPER than just about any GX720 out there and the GPU really packs a punch.

    ~9500 3DMark06 is decent, but if the new 280M Nvidia mobile part really is a upclocked 3700M part (128-CUDA), it will score 12k+ on 3DMark06 in a single card config. I'm really interested to see what a single 4870 mobile part can do. I like that the 4850 competes very effectively against the 9800gt(x).
     
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    I've been waiting a long time for a new lappy. I wanted something similar in size to my old Acer 15". I had come close to buying the SXPS 16 a couple of times while waiting for MSI to get the 725 to the states. I had planned on waiting for the GT727 originally but, with this kind of performance at this price, WHY WAIT. If the GT727 is that much better I'll sell the 725 and get one. For now I am extremely happy with my purchase. I would give this an awesome buy. This thing should cost well over $2k.

    As for an overall impression:
    If you can get passed the keyboard's truncated keys, you can't beat the GT725 for the price. The laptop is fast, lightweight, well built, and quite small for a 17" laptop.

    I believe they were using catalyst 9.2 with Vista 32-bit. Hard to compare these since I am running a beta operating system and 8.1 drivers.

    I will run some more tests after I install W7 32-bit...again. I believe the 64-bit OS is faster but I am having trouble getting any graphics card OC'ing software to function in the 64-bit environment.

    Only started Vista to confirm that the laptop was functional. I then pulled the HDD installed the SSD and loaded W7 32-bit by accident. I will let someone else deal with Vista. I would rather try and install XP than mess around with that OS.
     
  37. faisalhero

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    thanks

    i would also like to know if gpu-z is reading ur 4850 temp as i m havig problem if its working could u also post some temp of ur gpu plz thanks
     
  38. ichime

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    also Acer, try the vantage trial version if you have the time too. I'm guessing drivers might be the reason why the temperatures aren't being read, but let's see if Acer's system can report the GPU temps.
     
  39. Quicklite

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    If anyone needs vantage key for benchmarks, I've got one. feel free to PM me.
     
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    ok, cross out Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3, I'm not sure why I put them on there, even though I bet nearly every gaming computer can max them out easily.
     
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    try the new gpuz 0.3.2 this one may read your temps now.
     
  43. cutterjohn

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    OOC how long should I expect the first startup to take? (I was looking at the GX630 reviews (on newegg) and someone mentioned that it took that one about 40m to I guess install Vista and startup the first time...)

    (Never owned a notebook before that either didn't come fully OS pre-installed unless I specced it that way...)
     
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    http://www.xlr8gaming.net/

    go there and sign up and they will send you a free vantage key.
    i did it and got one in less than 24 hours.

    so no one should have an excuse now.... :)

    pass the word
     
  45. ichime

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    is this for the trial or basic version?
     
  46. Quicklite

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    I really hope there is a quad version of GT725 directly from MSI(Q9100 or higher), I don't see why they couldn't pushed it out at same time as dual version. Given its basically a 1722, which supports up to QX9300...
     
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    now see.... you didn't even go and read the front page..now did you...*LOL*
    if you did you would know...*LOL*

    quite playing with me and go read the first page.. :)
     
  48. ichime

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    whoops, misread it. thought you have sign up for a chance to win them. I'll try it to see if it's legit

    edit, nevermind. I know I'm not seeing things...

    That's what it says when you click the box talking about Vantage Advanced Edition
     
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    all legit, already did it before i even posted. to be sure.
    can take anywhere from 2 hours to 3 weeks.

    Congratulations!

    You have won a 3DMark Vantage Advance Edition license key! You may download 3DMark at http://www.futuremark.com/benchmarks/3dmarkvantage/introduction/

    11111-11111-11111-11111-11111-11111-11111-11111

    Keep this key for your records. We will not be able to provide you with a record of your key or additional key.

    Stay tuned to your email account and the PNY Graphics Plus 3D Mark site. After all keys have been distributed, we will be selecting one additional random winner of a PNY XLR8 GTX 280 graphics card!
     
  50. Jlbrightbill

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    Yeah I got mine in about 5 days, he got his in about 24 hours.
     
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